Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

@Uncle Van perhaps you are right on one thing. My strategy is not good. It seems to constantly activate defense mechanism. And someone just made me realize that explaining stuff will actually never work, knowing is not enough to act. I don't know why I was so stubborn with this.. but maybe.. just maybe there is another way. I'll try it right now:

What do you think could be done for marginalized people like me to feel safer in this place?

 

[NAMELESS]

You people love to hear c4n rant...

 

[Zenos7]

but maybe.. just maybe there is another way. I'll try it right now:

werent you going to leave?

Post automatically merged: Dec 11, 2025

You people love to hear c4n rant...

not at all

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

You people love to hear c4n rant...

he's the forum's jester

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1pjovo3
https://people.com/politics/trump-a...y-after-ivanas-sudden-death-attorney-general/

Isn't that interesting, for a man who is currently profiting off of murder in Israel's and Russia's illegal invasions masquerading as war?

Deathly Donnie seems to have a lot of convenient death happen around him, just like the Clinton.

Could any of his innocent little choir boys tells me why that is?

 

[Logiko]

werent you going to leave?

I'm really bad at giving up

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

he's the forum's jester

God, I'm falling off.



I think I might be starting to bald, too.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Terrorist attack are the product of domination systems just as much as crime. And they are not stopped by the police, but intelligence agencies. We create our own condition of lack of security. Anticapitalism implies the fight against imperialism, which breeds terrorism. So while it won't stop everything all together, it will reduce the risk. For the rest, we can create defensive alternatives.

Human behavior isn’t entirely deterministic

some people legitimately choose to be evil

 

[Midnight Delight]

he's the forum's jester

Jesters were intelligent tho, you have to be decently intelligent to know how to entertain the King without offending him

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Jesters were intelligent tho, you have to be decently intelligent to know how to entertain the King without offending him

I personally don’t like dogpiling on C4N, but this is such an incredible burn that I have to give it the recognition it deserves

 

[Logiko]

lol

Human behavior isn’t entirely deterministic

some people legitimately choose to be evil

Some people choose to do evil*
But this doesn't contradict with a deterministic vision of the world. Choices, even the wrong ones, are conditioned by many factors.

I personally don’t like dogpiling on C4N, but this is such an incredible burn that I have to give it the recognition it deserves

Lmao really? I found it a little bit lacking... How about this: "I'm not sure, Jesters needed enough wits to entertain Kings without offending them" > Much better right? You create an indirect burn without pushing attention on the invective. Once thing that we learn very early in schools is that subtlety is key when we insult someone. The more subtle, the better.

 

[Roo]

Jesters were intelligent tho, you have to be decently intelligent to know how to entertain the King without offending him

Lmao

Logiko is decently intelligent, he’s just obsessed with material analysis.

He reminds me of religious people, where every single thing can be explained by god or it ties back to god

 

[Uncle Van]

Look closer. You miss the important part. You live with unethical contradictions I wouldn't be able to live with. So yeah, I'm surprised. But this only means that I listen and understand your words, something you do not with mine. And here lie the problem. I always work on my shortcomings, but you seems to think you have all of them figured out. Like many of people here, this makes you blind.

Projection. Just because you cant live with it, doesnt mean others can't. Once again taking a very narcissistic stance that everyone but you is wrong, and they must do what you want to be acceptable.

As explained. I know & even state my shortcomings. I can adjust and even reflect when I'm wrong or pushy (three lines?). None of you people seems to be able to do this. So it's useless, I can't be the only one to make efforts and reflect. It goes both ways. Sadly.. I've pointed out enough evidence of shortcomings with you. As long as you won't accept self reflection, this will be useless indeed.

"I'm right and everyone else is wrong." See? You've been doing that since even before Worstgen. You have things you personally want, and do everything you can to make it seem like it's the law of the world and not just your opinion. Thats why you hate being wrong, because being wrong = not getting what you want like Carrot being a SH.

Right now, you claim I dont accept self reflection simply because I'm not giving you the outcome you personally want, which is quitting my job and helping defund the police.

 

[Logiko]

He reminds me of religious people, where every single thing can be explained by god or it ties back to god

What can be indeed a powerfull religious tool, can also be a powerfull political tool as well. How would you proceed to change your vision of the world and make people understand a new concept very easily?

 

[Logiko]

Projection. Just because you cant live with it, doesnt mean others can't. Once again taking a very narcissistic stance that everyone but you is wrong, and they must do what you want to be acceptable.

Let's try putting yourself in my position for a bit: You know the environment of this forum is potentially dangerous to you, you know that there is a possibility of fascist spreading here and ruining everyone's fun and you also know that the ambiant toxicity and structure of the forum arms the experience of users on this forum and on the stories they read. Leaving being out of the question.. what would you do?

"I'm right and everyone else is wrong." See? You've been doing that since even before Worstgen

True. But this doesn't necessarily means that I'm wrong. It means that my approach is wrong. And I know that it is not something people here can do easily. But look. You are looking at a change of strategy and behavior in real time. Do you feel like this is someone that can't reflect? Be honest. I have an objective and I do think I'm right, but this is not the problem here. It's the way I talk.

You have things you personally want, and do everything you can to make it seem like it's the law of the world and not just your opinion. Thats why you hate being wrong, because being wrong = not getting what you want like Carrot being a SH.

Are you not confusing me "being wrong" and me "losing" here? I've never considered Carrot's not joining as a defeat. On the contrary. This work brought me so much understanding that it was a damn good win. What I hated, on the other hand, is not being able to be understood. And it's still the case. What I know about her story is still missunderstood by the fanbase. Because I failed in sharing it.

Right now, you claim I dont accept self reflection simply because I'm not giving you the outcome you personally want, which is quitting my job and helping defund the police.

I'm pretty sure I would be ok with you keeping your job yet understanding everything I say. Like I said, it's possible to live with contradictions, I do. What I'm failing and what I'm the most mad about, is myself. It's the inability to share what I know, to make you see the world from my point of view. This is what I'm failing and why I'm feel like losing.

 

[AL sama]

Projection. Just because you cant live with it, doesnt mean others can't. Once again taking a very narcissistic stance that everyone but you is wrong, and they must do what you want to be acceptable.



"I'm right and everyone else is wrong." See? You've been doing that since even before Worstgen. You have things you personally want, and do everything you can to make it seem like it's the law of the world and not just your opinion. Thats why you hate being wrong, because being wrong = not getting what you want like Carrot being a SH.

Right now, you claim I dont accept self reflection simply because I'm not giving you the outcome you personally want, which is quitting my job and helping defund the police.

don't you get bored??

 

[Logiko]

don't you get bored??

Are you bored?

 

[Uncle Van]

Let's try putting yourself in my position for a bit: You know the environment of this forum is potentially dangerous to you, you know that there is a possibility of fascist spreading here and ruining everyone's fun and you also know that the ambiant toxicity and structure of the forum arms the experience of users on this forum and on the stories they read. Leaving being out of the question.. what would you do?


True. But this doesn't necessarily means that I'm wrong. It means that my approach is wrong. And I know that it is not something people here can do easily. But look. You are looking at a change of strategy and behavior in real time. Do you feel like this is someone that can't reflect? Be honest. I have an objective and I do think I'm right, but this is not the problem here. It's the way I talk.



Are you not confusing me "being wrong" and me "losing" here? I've never considered Carrot's not joining as a defeat. On the contrary. This work brought me so much understanding that it was a damn good win. What I hated, on the other hand, is not being able to be understood. And it's still the case. What I know about her story is still missunderstood by the fanbase. Because I failed in sharing it.



I'm pretty sure I would be ok with you keeping your job yet understanding everything I say. Like I said, it's possible to live with contradictions, I do. What I'm failing and what I'm the most mad about, is myself. It's the inability to share what I know, to make you see the world from my point of view. This is what I'm failing and why I'm feel like losing.

So now is that I cant see things from your point of view....

Gonna leave this: if you insinuate that @Jew D. Boy of all people is conservative for not supporting the outcome you want, something is fundamentally wrong with your logic lol

 

[AL sama]

Are you bored?

there's a reason I don't debate wit you

 

[Logiko]

what's up with the servor error? Is the website crumbling down or something?

there's a reason I don't debate wit you

You do you

So now is that I cant see things from your point of view....

I don't know. I'm waiting for your answer

if you insinuate that @Jew D. Boy of all people is conservative for not supporting the outcome you want, something is fundamentally wrong with your logic lol

wut?




Why are you talking about him?