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Trump has said we will rule over Venezuela until a “proper transition” and it’s for the oil and that American companies will make a lot of money.
Are you honestly saying we should pretend this isn’t “we will install a loyalist regime and ensure no non loyalists get in power?” Why? Give me a good reason and maybe I will pretend for you.
but this “no one is named, stop being mean by making probable predictions with foresight, you have to have hope and not say things that aren’t assured yet” argument is tired. What, do you think we will install a democratically elected leader and let them elect someone who will turn their back on the USA?
Are you honestly saying we should pretend this isn’t “we will install a loyalist regime and ensure no non loyalists get in power?” Why? Give me a good reason and maybe I will pretend for you.
but this “no one is named, stop being mean by making probable predictions with foresight, you have to have hope and not say things that aren’t assured yet” argument is tired. What, do you think we will install a democratically elected leader and let them elect someone who will turn their back on the USA?
I agree with you. The next regimes in venezuela will be loyalist to us. I just see as good maduro downfall.
And pay attention to this: i'm not saying regime against us interests doesnt deserve to exist. If I'm not wrong Hugo Chaves was well approved by Venezuela population and he was a dictator against us. I'm just talking about Maduro.
And pay attention to this: i'm not saying regime against us interests doesnt deserve to exist. If I'm not wrong Hugo Chaves was well approved by Venezuela population and he was a dictator against us. I'm just talking about Maduro.
keeping Chinese and Russian influence out of the western hemisphere is a key part of that 
This is absolutely about power and control. have I ever denied that? Lol
This is absolutely about power and control. have I ever denied that? Lol
you didn’t post him saying he was bullshitting, you posted him and said he was right. But he was openly bullshitting and you admit that later. You are one flip flopping mf. I was just trying to honestly engage with the tweet, not this “gotcha” game you like to play.
I didn’t say you were saying that, I just said we will install a dictator, you said that’s hypothetical, I said it’s obvuous
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You have your answer here.
"leftist"
You have your answer here.
"leftist"
I don't rlly care if im leftist or not according to you. Im not a tribalist neandethal to blindly defend something just cause others with similar beliefs do it. That's cult behaviour. I defend or criticise shit I find correct/wrong. Most of my views happen to align with mostly leftist stuff so I guess I am one. That's not to say I don't have centrist or even right wing views on certain topics but most political tests would place me leftist.
Yeah almost like I have said USA isn't correct in this matter. Lol
All I'm saying is that there's a high probability that they will be a BETTER (not good) regime than the Maduro dictatorship which you're so scared of calling out because you're part of a cult scared to call out dictators simply because they identify as socialist.
All I'm saying is that there's a high probability that they will be a BETTER (not good) regime than the Maduro dictatorship which you're so scared of calling out because you're part of a cult scared to call out dictators simply because they identify as socialist.
Yes, but you’ve also basically said we can’t talk about the future because people are cheering rn and it’s mean to them to not pretend we won’t install a new dictator. So I still class you as bullshitter or sheep
Still trying this “you’re so scared of calling maduro out because you’re a commie dictator lover” bs lol. Jesus you’re a massive pussy. Is this what you do for everyone all the time? It’s an easy way to crush dissent, I get that.
No, again, I just don’t value virtue signalling. We don’t need to say “yeah we will install a dictator but he will probably be marginally better” or we secretly love maduro. Why can’t we just be honest and say this “our dictator will be better” bs is virtue signalling and/or copium? Still will be a dictator. Coughing every statement in “of course we must remember maduro was worse” doesn’t mean we won’t install a dictator who will still be bad. Not seeing this as heroic or a major change for Venezuelans isn’t being pro maduro, it’s recognizing that we are only doing this to harvest resources for billionaire rancompanies and will ensure Venezuela has a non democratic future.
Not jerking off for Trump because he got maduro and being honest about this probably not saving your avg Venezuelans from their problems will never be me saying “FUCK YES MADURO I WANT YOUR DICK” like you are fantasizing about me saying.
Still trying this “you’re so scared of calling maduro out because you’re a commie dictator lover” bs lol. Jesus you’re a massive pussy. Is this what you do for everyone all the time? It’s an easy way to crush dissent, I get that.
No, again, I just don’t value virtue signalling. We don’t need to say “yeah we will install a dictator but he will probably be marginally better” or we secretly love maduro. Why can’t we just be honest and say this “our dictator will be better” bs is virtue signalling and/or copium? Still will be a dictator. Coughing every statement in “of course we must remember maduro was worse” doesn’t mean we won’t install a dictator who will still be bad. Not seeing this as heroic or a major change for Venezuelans isn’t being pro maduro, it’s recognizing that we are only doing this to harvest resources for billionaire rancompanies and will ensure Venezuela has a non democratic future.
Not jerking off for Trump because he got maduro and being honest about this probably not saving your avg Venezuelans from their problems will never be me saying “FUCK YES MADURO I WANT YOUR DICK” like you are fantasizing about me saying.
Damn you're really running away from any criticism of your precious socialist right? Cult behaviour 
You have no right to call out people for celebrating when they've starved and had family members killed for 3 decades while living in a shithole because there's a possibility their life will only marginally improve instead of tremendously while you sit in the comfort of your first world country with no exposure to anything of what life is like under actual evil dictators. People like you reek of privilege.
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You're probably the same type of person that brands Trump on the same level as the Nazis because you want to be a victim of something historical so bad. Sorry babe but America, as trash as it is currently, is still better than 99% of dictatorships that have existed. So please don't call out people who've ACTUALLY suffered the consequences of one. You're not that big of a victim.
You have no right to call out people for celebrating when they've starved and had family members killed for 3 decades while living in a shithole because there's a possibility their life will only marginally improve instead of tremendously while you sit in the comfort of your first world country with no exposure to anything of what life is like under actual evil dictators. People like you reek of privilege.
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You're probably the same type of person that brands Trump on the same level as the Nazis because you want to be a victim of something historical so bad. Sorry babe but America, as trash as it is currently, is still better than 99% of dictatorships that have existed. So please don't call out people who've ACTUALLY suffered the consequences of one. You're not that big of a victim.
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“Call out people for celebrating?”
are you actually stupid? Where did I do that? No, you’re a knowing bullshitter
all I said was that people cheering rn doesn’t mean much for their future. You are now insisting that I was somehow against them cheering. All I’m saying is just because desperate people have hope we don’t need to ignore the probable future. You are very mad that I don’t refuse to discuss the future and it not being perfect because you think I should shut up and pretend the future is super hopeful because some desperate people think so.
theyre allowed to cheer, and I even wish above all that they will be right, I just doubt it. What im against isn’t that, its you saying that them cheering and having hope means its verboten to discuss if the U.S. will install a loyalist dictator because we need to spend all day and night virtue signaling.
Im sure I’ll just get “REEE YOU SOUND LIKE A SOCIALIST” in response, so idk why I bothered
Not even gonna engage on the Trump non sequitur. Have whatever narrative you want about me. I will I guess say that thinking we will install a pro us dictator doesn’t = calling us all the Nazis, it’s just saying we will probably install a dictator. You love throwing wild accusations to slander all dissent though. I’m a socialist dictator loving hater of all the Venezuelan citizens all because I was mean to Trump. The whole “you haven’t even been under a dictator” is more virtue signalling irrelevant bs from you.
If I suck your dick and repeat Maduro bad the whole time will you calm down
Damn you're really running away from any criticism of your precious socialist right? Cult behaviour
You have no right to call out people for celebrating when they've starved and had family members killed for 3 decades while living in a shithole because there's a possibility their life will only marginally improve instead of tremendously while you sit in the comfort of your first world country with no exposure to anything of what life is like under actual evil dictators. People like you reek of privilege.
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You're probably the same type of person that brands Trump on the same level as the Nazis because you want to be a victim of something historical so bad. Sorry babe but America, as trash as it is currently, is still better than 99% of dictatorships that have existed. So please don't call out people who've ACTUALLY suffered the consequences of one. You're not that big of a victim.
You have no right to call out people for celebrating when they've starved and had family members killed for 3 decades while living in a shithole because there's a possibility their life will only marginally improve instead of tremendously while you sit in the comfort of your first world country with no exposure to anything of what life is like under actual evil dictators. People like you reek of privilege.
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You're probably the same type of person that brands Trump on the same level as the Nazis because you want to be a victim of something historical so bad. Sorry babe but America, as trash as it is currently, is still better than 99% of dictatorships that have existed. So please don't call out people who've ACTUALLY suffered the consequences of one. You're not that big of a victim.
are you actually stupid? Where did I do that? No, you’re a knowing bullshitter
all I said was that people cheering rn doesn’t mean much for their future. You are now insisting that I was somehow against them cheering. All I’m saying is just because desperate people have hope we don’t need to ignore the probable future. You are very mad that I don’t refuse to discuss the future and it not being perfect because you think I should shut up and pretend the future is super hopeful because some desperate people think so.
theyre allowed to cheer, and I even wish above all that they will be right, I just doubt it. What im against isn’t that, its you saying that them cheering and having hope means its verboten to discuss if the U.S. will install a loyalist dictator because we need to spend all day and night virtue signaling.
Im sure I’ll just get “REEE YOU SOUND LIKE A SOCIALIST” in response, so idk why I bothered
Not even gonna engage on the Trump non sequitur. Have whatever narrative you want about me. I will I guess say that thinking we will install a pro us dictator doesn’t = calling us all the Nazis, it’s just saying we will probably install a dictator. You love throwing wild accusations to slander all dissent though. I’m a socialist dictator loving hater of all the Venezuelan citizens all because I was mean to Trump. The whole “you haven’t even been under a dictator” is more virtue signalling irrelevant bs from you.
If I suck your dick and repeat Maduro bad the whole time will you calm down
When was the last time the prez explicitly said we are taking over oil reserves for corporate profits and ruling this nation until we can install someone we approve of lol
i dont care about “well its been a while so dont listen to what the guy says.” Let me guess, me listening to trumps words after taking over is another piece of proof that I’m a socialist dictator lover? Lmfao
i dont care about “well its been a while so dont listen to what the guy says.” Let me guess, me listening to trumps words after taking over is another piece of proof that I’m a socialist dictator lover? Lmfao
