Controversial General Political Discussion

[Natalija]

"This economic system/legislation wouldn't work!"
*uses a dictatorship/authoritarian regime to prove it*

Some things never change

Dear Van.

Socialist countries often morphed into authoritarian regimes BECAUSE they needed to enforce economic control.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Capitalism is the most successful economic system out of everything which was tried in history, but if you think of something better, make a suggestion. As long as it isn't socialism.

If a system needs constant population growth to not collapse, it's a bad one.

 

[Roo]

Dear Van.

Socialist countries often morphed into authoritarian regimes BECAUSE they needed to enforce economic control.

Maoism, Marxist-Leninism necessitates a one party rule. It's quite literally a feature of Marxism

 

[Mathias]

Socialism isn't when the goverment does stuff. What exactly do you mean by that?

Socialism's goal is generally the abolition or reduction of commodification

And no, Mamdani will never achieve anywhere near close even as Mayor because American Identity is built upon privatization

Socialism is defined with two words only now ? You don't need to have achieved the goal to be a socialist country.

I didn't say that about Mamdani.

 

[Roo]

Socialism is defined with two words only now ? You don't need to have achieved the goal to be a socialist country.

Words need to have meaning, and socialism has only been defined as "government doing stuff" by right wingers when fearmongering during the red scare era. For the most part my definition follows Marx's because that's what socialism is

Name a socialist country, and tell me why exactly it is one

 

[Natalija]

Maoism, Marxist-Leninism necessitates a one party rule. It's quite literally a feature of Marxism

Yes, it's meant to enforce socialist policies efficiently and so it becomes dictatorial.

Why doesn't everyone know that

 

[Uncle Van]

Dear Van.

Socialist countries often morphed into authoritarian regimes BECAUSE they needed to enforce economic control.

I simply find the tactic of always arguing the absolute worst of a system to prove a point pretty dishonest. That's like saying capitalism cant work at all, and only speak of the most heinous moments from the 1800s to prove it.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

I still dont know if mathias is a snail eater or a kebab eater

 

[Natalija]

I simply find the tactic of always arguing the absolute worst of a system to prove a point pretty dishonest. That's like saying capitalism cant work at all, and only speak of the most heinous moments from the 1800s to prove it.

There's no good example though.

 

[Roo]

I simply find the tactic of always arguing the absolute worst of a system to prove a point pretty dishonest. That's like saying capitalism cant work at all, and only speak of the most heinous moments from the 1800s to prove it.

But like Nat says Socialism requires a vanguard party in order to work

 

[Mathias]

who's this a response too?

You.

I still dont know if mathias is a snail eater or a kebab eater

I eat pork kebab and vomit snails.

 

[Roo]

You.

Then he's wrong and should pick up our favorite book

 

[Mathias]

Then he's wrong and should pick up our favorite book

Lame read. But doesn't say anything about dictatorship. You probably didn't even read it.

 

[Roo]

Lame read. But doesn't say anything about dictatorship. You probably didn't even read it.

Marx quite literally pushes for the abolishment of the state, lenin just brought to its natural conclusion

plus i was being cheeky

 

[Natalija]

Okay, my second in command of the Law fanclub @Roo can represent me on this matter.

 

[Roo]

Okay, my second in command of the Law fanclub @Roo can represent me on this matter.

I'm bout to leave soon so nope, you are on your own

@TheAncientGorosei can maybe help you

 

[TheAncientGorosei]

I'm here to represent capitalism, ask me anything

 

[Uncle Van]

There's no good example though.

But like Nat says Socialism requires a vanguard party in order to work

You are aware that socialism is an umbrella term correct? How exactly does a socialist dictatorship = socialism itself is bad and cant work in any form? Assuming that's what you two are saying.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Gd Leftist crying a Dictator was taken down. They really have the biggest double standards ever.
Yet the country seems to be celebrating.
The right person does however need to fill the power vacuum. Hopefully it's done.

I guess commies love another commie. Blah blah blah

 

[Mathias]

Marx quite literally pushes for the abolishment of the state,

Yes.

lenin just brought to its natural conclusion

No. That's like your opinion.

plus i was being cheeky

Yes.

Okay, my second in command of the Law fanclub @Roo can represent me on this matter.

"I didn't come here to fight against Shanks Uncle Van"