Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1179: THE ADVENT OF NERONA IMU

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#63
A big thing. Imu calls Teach Davy Jones, like Luffy to Joyboy. It does at least further solidify what we already suspected.

The only real question is if Davy Jones had a God power and that was transferred to teach (i.e. the weird body thing/how teach can have multiple powers). It'd make sense to me if Teach, like Imu and Luffy, are one of the 4 deities in that case then, and Teach just hides that fact.
Yeah.

This confirms Imu knows. We already knew thanks to Saturn, but still.
 
#67
Sea god fits imu though given his contracts are named after sea - Deep sea contract , abyssal contract , shallow sea contract. Also it was imu who used uranus and raised the ocean level which can be equivalent of sea god's rampage.
Maybe, but the key thing here is the Hellflame Serpent (Hell and Serpents are Devil adjecent biblically) and the fact that "Earth" in old geocentric beliefs were all surrounded by other planets.

We dont really know how the sea rose hundeds of meters 800 years ago. We actually dont even know if Uranus was used here. Its possible Imu manipulated the prior Mermaid Princess instead. Her power is literally to sink/destroy the world too.
 
#74
Honestly throwing out my guesses for the 4 God's now. Imu stabs 3 pictures, which makes me think he's 1 one of the 4 who hates the other 3. Imu also looks like Nika, which strongly suggests the same thing.

- Luffy is Nika, the Sun God
- Imu is the Devil (might have a real name), the Earth God. I say Earth because the notion of it having a Hell Serpent goes hand in hand with Devil and it being the reason Nika died in the 1st world. Not to mention being Earth goes back to Egghead theories about the Gorosei and Ancient Weapons all being planets who revolve around him.
- Teach is probably the Forest God. "Taming demons" sounds very akin to how he can consume more than one power. To me I get homonculous type vibes from him. This might be why his Darkness fruit doesnt act like a Logia, because its not one. Either this or he has a 3rd fruit he's hiding related to it.
- The Sea God is Shirahoshi, Poseidon. Yes, shes both an ancient weapon and this god, which might explain why the power to control sea kings is generational. It doesnt follow Devil Fruits, it follows a specific lineage of mermaids.

I think this, thematically, goes along with everything we know so far in the story. Loki's powers seem to fall along with or under Nika's, just given the history of Nidhogg and Nika. Plus, his bounty and Luffy's literally add to 5.6 billion lol....

Now you have my guess on this for real @Shiroyru. This chapter actually helped in small ways.
How do you explain Imu’s covenants being named after the sea though? And his goal being to flood the lower world?

Shirahoshi being the Sea God doesn’t really make sense to me because the Harley text confirmed that the Sea God flooded the world, which would be the result of all the Ancient Weapons and not just Poseidon.

Imu is the Sea God imo, based on his pacts, his goal of flooding the world, and him being fought in the middle of the sea in the mural.

Teach is the Earth God. The Earth God left the world in “darkness and destruction,” which sounds just like Teach’s 2 DFs. And the Earth God having an earthquake DF would make sense.

The Forest God is Chopper, who can tame demons (as shown by him expelling demons out of the giants, and diseases in the past were considered a result of demonic influence, so it can tie in with his role as a doctor who wants to cure all diseases. Obviously Chopper won’t ever be nearly as strong as Luffy, BB, or Imu, but it was our mistake to assume the Forest God must be on par with those 3, it’s simply just a less important god. Also, forests are nourished by the Sun, so the Forest God serving under the Sun God makes sense
 
#77
One reason should be that supreme king haki coating attacks can hit the real body, bypassing regeneration/immortality power.
The same thing that happens with basic armament haki that let hit the real body of rogia fruits.
Probably the Roger pirates never did that because they just dismantled the holy knights while being chased every time without worrying too much.

But the real question is Sommers heart now is visible thanks to Luffy and Loki supreme king haki, how much time does the "effect" last until the "real body" can be seen? How does it work? It's still pretty vague and probably I'm not even right. Probably Oda will not even explain it properly.
 
#79
I mean how the hell some people here have like peanut of a brain cell posting characters from some other Mangas and comparing them with imu's like fuck mate that's how devil's look like and I haven't seen any design like him sitting on the top of that castle
 
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