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[Marimo_420]

We have a 700 million bounty Veteran who trolls probably the strongest Mink after the dukes by owning his ass without even using his DF power. Pedro attacks him from behind and Perospero puts him on his ass by smaking him with a candy cane.

Some of you underestimate how strong a Veteran level character can be.

Same minks whose whole country of warriors including both dukes were getting washed by one of the "weaker" yc.

Jinbe ain't getting bodied like that against the likes of Jack nor Cracker. In fact, I would say he's equal or above them.

Some of you just love to troll on Jinbe. He's a bona-fide monster. If you lot can't see it, it's a wagwan for you.

 

[nik87]

Got his arm charred or cut up and then sent flying against both of them. After he got in Akainu's way the second time Law was saying that even through his surgery he thinks chances are low that he could survive.
Marineford is full of questionable feats, i would not rely too much solely on what happened in that arc.

I don't know about all the Shichibukai = Veteran level or above. He used the same technique he used on Moria at MF against base Luffy in FI, and Luffy said it hurts but it did not doo much to him.
Meanwhile he used a 5000 Brick Fist ( which seems to be a stronger attack) on Opera in WCI, who's clearly quite a bit bellow Veteran level.

Like i said, maybe Jimbe is Top YC level, if that's the case i will not give Oda shit about it. Just be prepared if that's not quite the case and he falls a bit short from expectations such as "at least YC2".
He never gave me the feeling that he's in any way comparable to Katakuri in WCI like Queen does next to King for example.

He wasnt sent flying against Akainu. Jinbe has by far best barehanded feats of going against magma and a sword, against top tiers.
Law needed to operate on him because Akainu, later on, landed a clean shot on Jinbe against which Jinbe did not defend.
I am not relying just on MF, I am adding WCI too, by far the best barehanded vs sword feat in entire manga.

All original Shichibukai are easily above Veterans, above most YCs too.
Dont get confused about their power level just because they met Luffy and had to lose, somehow.
Yeah, his fist did nothing to Luffy, just like Mihawk's slash, we all know the legendary plot armor of Luffy.

Jinbe is one of the toughest guys around with best feats of going barehanded against either magma or sword.
Cracker never gave the feeling that he is comparable to Katakuri either and yet, gave Luffy a far harder fight than Katakuri, lol.
If Sanji should remain nr3 of the crew, by all means but he needs to earn it, Jinbe shouldnt be restricted by plot so Sanji can look better.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Same minks whose whole country of warriors including both dukes were getting washed by one of the "weaker" yc.

Jinbe ain't getting bodied like that against the likes of Jack nor Cracker. In fact, I would say he's equal or above them.

Some of you just love to troll on Jinbe. He's a bona-fide monster. If you lot can't see it, it's a wagwan for you.

You think Jimbe is stronger than the Dukes ?

The way i see Jimbe, he can go anywhere from Perospero/Snack to Cracker/Jack. I think he is 100% weaker than King/ Queen, and stronger than the likes of Oven/Daifuku/Page One.

 

[Tejas]

Zoro's worst nightmare
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[Kuro Ashi]

He wasnt sent flying against Akainu. Jinbe has by far best barehanded feats of going against magma and a sword, against top tiers.
Law needed to operate on him because Akainu, later on, landed a clean shot on Jinbe against which Jinbe did not defend.
I am not relying just on MF, I am adding WCI too, by far the best barehanded vs sword feat in entire manga.

All original Shichibukai are easily above Veterans, above most YCs too.
Dont get confused about their power level just because they met Luffy and had to lose, somehow.
Yeah, his fist did nothing to Luffy, just like Mihawk's slash, we all know the legendary plot armor of Luffy.

Jinbe is one of the toughest guys around with best feats of going barehanded against either magma or sword.
Cracker never gave the feeling that he is comparable to Katakuri either and yet, gave Luffy a far harder fight than Katakuri, lol.
If Sanji should remain nr3 of the crew, by all means but he needs to earn it, Jinbe shouldnt be restricted by plot so Sanji can look better.

He used water on his hand to counter the heat, but the arm still got charred. He used hardening attempting to stop starved Big Mom's attack, but the arm still got cut and he was sent flying.

Well i disagree, the only one who was above YC was Mihawk. Law became a Shichibukai during the time skip, and he was clearly not 100% ready to defeat YC level characters like Doffy in 1 vs 1 even when we got to Dressrosa.

Croc back in Alabasta was way weaker than a YC, and same was the case with Moria. How far they've fallen was part of their story.

Jimbe is not going to get restricted, we will just get to learn his actual worth. Neither side should complain if he seems to be stronger or weaker than we thought he was going forward.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Sanji is not part of monster trio cuz monster trio never existed

It was always

Zoro > Luffy >>>> Rest
Still is

 

[Tejas]

New Monster Trio is
Franky Jinbe Brook.

 

[Marimo_420]

You think Jimbe is stronger than the Dukes ?

The way i see Jimbe, he can go anywhere from Perospero/Snack to Cracker/Jack. I think he is 100% weaker than King/ Queen, and stronger than the likes of Oven/Daifuku/Page One.

Yes Jinbe is 100 percent stronger than the dukes.

Where were Dukes portrayed to be any higher?

Sulong Dukes 2 v1 will probably force Jack to go hybrid. Jinbe is a whole different breed compared to the scabbards.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

● Lucci was struggling to keep his consciousness after one Gear 3 But Zoro deflected a Gear 3 with two swords without using Ichi Nigorilla

● Lucci was out after Gear 2 Gatling while a half Dead Zoro evaded Kuma Pad Canons with Attack speed and power superior to gear 2 gatling he even reached him and he even reacted before that to his attacks and teleportation while being in a state of death
This is just base Zoro not asura
Lucci the faggot

Lmaoo TB Zoro low diffs Lucci, who is dumb enough to debate that?

 

[Finalbeta]

Sanji is not part of monster trio cuz monster trio never existed

It was always

Zoro > Luffy >>>> Rest
Still is

It makes sense since Whitebeard was more potent than Roger

EoS Luffy shall not be the steongest around

 

[nik87]

He used water on his hand to counter the heat, but the arm still got charred. He used hardening attempting to stop starved Big Mom's attack, but the arm still got cut and he was sent flying.
Well i disagree, the only one who was above YC was Mihawk. Law became a Shichibukai during the time skip, and he was clearly not 100% ready to defeat YC level characters like Doffy in 1 vs 1 even when we got to Dressrosa.

Croc back in Alabasta was way weaker than a YC, and same was the case with Moria. How far they've fallen was part of their story.
Jimbe is not going to get restricted, we will just get to learn his actual worth. Neither side should complain if he seems to be stronger or weaker than we thought he was going forward.

Regardless, it is still the best feat a weaponless/DF producer has in the entire manga when facing magma or swords.
His hand was charred, WBs part of the head was erased, his chest piece erased, Ace's chest piece erased...
Law lost his arm to Doffy while Jinbe kept his arm vs Big Mom...

Forget Law, I said original Shichibukai. Doffy was a bad match-up for Law, he should have no issues taking out some YC level characters.
Croc wasnt weaker than a YC... He just had the bad luck of meeting Luffy early on and was dumbed down by the plot armor...
Moriah was beaten up by Nightmare Luffy, a hax PU that is not repeated yet in the entire series. It was not Luffy's own strength.

Moriah is ridiculously powerful, the guy fought against Kaido and wasnt KOed and imprisoned like the MC was in one hit...
He was weakened when Jinbe took him out but regardless, he is no joke.
I certainly hope so that he doesnt get dumbed down for only reason that Sanji can look better. Sanji should do that of his own merit.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Yes Jinbe is 100 percent stronger than the dukes.

Where were Dukes portrayed to be any higher?

Sulong Dukes 2 v1 will probably force Jack to go hybrid. Jinbe is a whole different breed compared to the scabbards.

Did you change your mind after the latest chapter ? That did not seem to be a common belief until recently, people seem to value the Dukes highly strength wise.

Regardless, it is still the best feat a weaponless/DF producer has in the entire manga when facing magma or swords.
His hand was charred, WBs part of the head was erased, his chest piece erased, Ace's chest piece erased...
Law lost his arm to Doffy while Jinbe kept his arm vs Big Mom...

Forget Law, I said original Shichibukai. Doffy was a bad match-up for Law, he should have no issues taking out some YC level characters.
Croc wasnt weaker than a YC... He just had the bad luck of meeting Luffy early on and was dumbed down by the plot armor...
Moriah was beaten up by Nightmare Luffy, a hax PU that is not repeated yet in the entire series. It was not Luffy's own strength.

Moriah is ridiculously powerful, the guy fought against Kaido and wasnt KOed and imprisoned like the MC was in one hit...
He was weakened when Jinbe took him out but regardless, he is no joke.
I certainly hope so that he doesnt get dumbed down for only reason that Sanji can look better. Sanji should do that of his own merit.

Jimbe's body was also pierced when he took the attack like Ace did. He was going to die if not for Law.

Law is not exactly a fighter who prides in having the toughest body with the best Haki anyway, and as i said i don't think he was proper YC level in Dressrosa.

Well Croc and Moria were both not as strong as YC, that's pretty much obvious. At MF Moria was also not just defeated by Jimbe, but powerless against Doflamingo.

Well again, he might not be exactly a strong as you think. If he proves to be a bit weaker, it doesn't mean he was dumbed down, but your impression of him was a bit higher than it should have been. Same the case for me if he proves to be stronger.

 

[OEKaneki]

So this thread has devolved from fanboys claiming Sanji is in this fanmade construct of the “Monster Trio” because he’s popular and has three in his name (when his name is related to family order, was never intended to be his name in the first place, and would be the only person that follows this rule because neither Luffy or Zoro have a one or a two in their name), to fanboys claiming that Zoro is on Luffy’s level in any aspect.

This site is still trash.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

So this thread has devolved from fanboys claiming Sanji is in this fanmade construct of the “Monster Trio” because he’s popular and has three in his name (when his name is related to family order, was never intended to be his name in the first place, and would be the only person that follows this rule because neither Luffy or Zoro have a one or a two in their name), to fanboys claiming that Zoro is on Luffy’s level in any aspect.

This site is still trash.

Luffy is a piece of dog shit who gets one shot by Zoro.
Who is saying Zoro is on Luffy's level?
Zoro shits on him in Haki, physical strength, attack power, lethality, durability, endurance

All Luffy has is piss poor version of FS that couldn't even save him fruit Apoo and Ulti.

Also Luffy is one of the shittiest characters in fiction history and the reason why One Piece looses in sales to demon slayer. Oda needs to kill Luffy off and make Zoro the protagonist asap.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Luffy is a piece of dog shit who gets one shot by Zoro.
Who is saying Zoro is on Luffy's level?
Zoro shits on him in Haki, physical strength, attack power, lethality, durability, endurance

All Luffy has is piss poor version of FS that couldn't even save him fruit Apoo and Ulti.

Also Luffy is one of the shittiest characters in fiction history and the reason why One Piece looses in sales to demon slayer. Oda needs to kill Luffy off and make Zoro the protagonist asap.

And people wonder why all the old school Zorofans basically abandoned defending the character, because they don't want to be associated with this shit.

 

[nik87]

Jimbe's body was also pierced when he took the attack like Ace did. He was going to die if not for Law.
Law is not exactly a fighter who prides in having the toughest body with the best Haki anyway, and as i said i don't think he was proper YC level in Dressrosa.

Well Croc and Moria were both not as strong as YC, that's pretty much obvious. At MF Moria was also not just defeated by Jimbe, but powerless against Doflamingo.
Well again, he might not be exactly a strong as you think. If he proves to be a bit weaker, it doesn't mean he was dumbed down, but your impression of him was a bit higher than it should have been. Same the case for me if he proves to be stronger.

Jinbe didnt realize that he would be pierced, Ace defended with his body intentionally, not the same thing.
He didnt need Law's help to deal with Akainu's or Big Mom's attack.
Why was Law not YC in DR when he basically killed Doffy until plot armor kicked in and reset everything so it can be Luffy who beats him?

You could claim that Croc and Moriah are above YCs and you would be less wrong than claiming that they arent as strong as YC...
Moriah in MF didnt recover from TB, was defeated by Jinbe and backstabbed by Doflamingo. It doesnt affect his actual power.
My expectations for Jinbe are not high, the guy barely showed anything so far, he still has to have a full-fledged fight showing his abilities.

to fanboys claiming that Zoro is on Luffy’s level in any aspect.

lol... You would like that Luffy is on Zoro's level...
He is barely knocking on the top tier doors now while Zoro has been one the entire time in post TS...

 

[Ravagerblade]

Well on one thing he is right

Zoro is a God :P

No he isn't, it's sometimes disturbing how much you guys stan Zoro.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Jinbe didnt realize that he would be pierced, Ace defended with his body intentionally, not the same thing.
He didnt need Law's help to deal with Akainu's or Big Mom's attack.
Why was Law not YC in DR when he basically killed Doffy until plot armor kicked in and reset everything so it can be Luffy who beats him?

You could claim that Croc and Moriah are above YCs and you would be less wrong than claiming that they arent as strong as YC...
Moriah in MF didnt recover from TB, was defeated by Jinbe and backstabbed by Doflamingo. It doesnt affect his actual power.
My expectations for Jinbe are not high, the guy barely showed anything so far, he still has to have a full-fledged fight showing his abilities.

lol... You would like that Luffy is on Zoro's level...
He is barely knocking on the top tier doors now while Zoro has been one the entire time in post TS...

Of course he realized, he tried to confront Akainu but could not do anything to stop him. He even says "it's no use" while he get's fucked up.

He did to survive Akainu's second attack, and starved Big Mom's attack he tried to stop but got cut and sent flying.

Oh, you actually think that either Law or Luffy could solo Doffy in Dressrosa and the team ups or the colosseum pirates getting fucked up to buy Luffy time for more G4 rounds were unecessary ?

That's just crazy. These characters were not even making basic use of Haki, which would have been noted as was with Eneru. There's 0% chance Alabasta croc and TB Moria were anywhere close to YC's.

Heck, the whole crew had to team up against one Pacifista pre time skip, when Luffy had gears and all, while Alabasta Luffy was able to put down Croc with his pre Skypiea level of power.

Again, they might be high, or mine might be low. I think i'm perfectly reasonable with my expectations, but if i'm proven wrong, that's all on Oda to do i can't complain because i thought different, so neither should you guys if you end up being wrong.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

And people wonder why all the old school Zorofans basically abandoned defending the character, because they don't want to be associated with this shit.

 

[Marimo_420]

Did you change your mind after the latest chapter ? That did not seem to be a common belief until recently, people seem to value the Dukes highly strength wise.

No. At least not for me.

I've always thought of as Jinbe as a monster which let's face it true.

Of course dukes are monsters in thier own right but last chapter did nothing to thier protrayal comparatively speaking to Jinbe.

He a whole different breed