Current Events One piece ending in 4 years confirmed

[Red Admiral]

There is a theory that says how the Red Hair pirates and WG have formed an alliance and that Blackbeard will lose a battle to them.

I liked that idea because it's to predictable that BB wins everything now until Laugh tale since he has plot armor.

Like, BB and his main crew escape, then they end up at Wano, he takes Kaido's fruit and beats Shanks at a later point.

BB just beating Shanks offscreen sometime would be trash writing

it's beyond trash .... people think I get angry of hearing this cause I'm a Shanks fan ... but I find it an insult to Oda ...


the "Shanks is an ally with WG" can happen I would like it tbh ... cause if Oda do that I think Shanks role would jump to a almost or the final villain of the story

but Shanks is the main INFJ of the story ... someone like uncle Iroh or dumbledore .... I don't think Oda wanted Shanks to take this way ...

but





the idea of Shanks and Marine be ally for a war Vs New Rocks .... is some thing I really really really really enjoy


Teach + Kaido + Big Mom attack the WG ...
Shanks join arms with Marine ....
Luffy become the 3rd party ....
after they won the war .... Imu appear and wave of war change once more
Dragon can come to help as well

this would be THE PERFECT PLOT

- it would be the greatest war in one piece history as Oda said
- it have many twist and turn
- by this plot "Luffy would become Pirate King AFTER he won the final war" which I like way more than he become that before his main war


even Oda said "Luffy main story end after knowing what one piece is" not that "after he got one piece for his own"



i find it really hard for ANY ONE to even consider another possibility to top this

 

[HA001]

it's beyond trash .... people think I get angry of hearing this cause I'm a Shanks fan ... but I find it an insult to Oda ...


the "Shanks is an ally with WG" can happen I would like it tbh ... cause if Oda do that I think Shanks role would jump to a almost or the final villain of the story

but Shanks is the main INFJ of the story ... someone like uncle Iroh or dumbledore .... I don't think Oda wanted Shanks to take this way ...

but





the idea of Shanks and Marine be ally for a war Vs New Rocks .... is some thing I really really really really enjoy


Teach + Kaido + Big Mom attack the WG ...
Shanks join arms with Marine ....
Luffy become the 3rd party ....
after they won the war .... Imu appear and wave of war change once more
Dragon can come to help as well

this would be THE PERFECT PLOT

- it would be the greatest war in one piece history as Oda said
- it have many twist and turn
- by this plot "Luffy would become Pirate King AFTER he won the final war" which I like way more than he become that before his main war


even Oda said "Luffy main story end after knowing what one piece is" not that "after he got one piece for his own"



i find it really hard for ANY ONE to even consider another possibility to top this

Dumbeldore died.
Shanks is dying

 

[Red Admiral]

Dumbeldore died.
Shanks is dying

who give a fuck?
"story arc" is all that matter ... power level or who live and die is just a fancy argument for having too much free time

I want a good story

p.s
if I was the writer of one piece I would kill Shanks at some point as well .... but after a good story arc

 

[HA001]

who give a fuck?
"story arc" is all that matter ... power level or who live and die is just a fancy argument for having too much free time

I want a good story

p.s
if I was the writer of one piece I would kill Shanks at some point as well .... but after a good story arc

Lmfao dumbledore died way before the final war just like shanks.

 

[Red Admiral]

Lmfao dumbledore died way before the final war just like shanks.

sigh ... sorry mate ... I'm having an adult conversation about one piece plot with @MarineHQ62

your weak fan fictions are just an insult to one piece ...

if you value characters base on

- who will stay alive
- who have what power
- who will be in final war

than I guess you and I don't have care about same things ....

you are so full of hate and insecurity that it's almost sad to reply to your posts

 

[Paperchampion23]

After Kaido and Big Mom, there's no one left but Blackbeard and the WG. What could these hundred chapters between Wano and the Final Saga (Laugh Tale/Final War) be about? Info dumping?

You say that like its such a small thing left lol. It took 350 chapters to finally tie in and start dealing with Big Mom and Kaido.

The World Government is not "small". You have multiple sub-factions within its grouping:

- The Leaders: Im, Gorosei, Kong, whomever else runs the show in the World Government that we have yet to meet.
- CP-0: The agents that protect the Tennyruubito
- The Marines: Akainu, his Admirals and military (additional VA's we haven't seen, etc)
- The SSG: Vegapunk and his science team, replacing the Shichibukai.

Then factor in the pure fact that we know next to nothing about Shanks and Blackbeard. We have no idea if Shanks is "all good". He was shown talking to the Gorosei and people keep denying that he isn't being weird or shady. These 2 are vastly more important Yonko that BM and Kaido. Do I expect another 400 chapters to deal with them (if Shanks is bad)? Definitely not, but their stories will have to be built up, just like Big Mom and Kaido. They will (probably) factor into this huge war with the WG somehow.

Then tie in virtually every other additional group that has the potential (I won't say guaranteed) to participate in this war:

- The Revolutionaries (Dragon, Sabo, The 5 RA Commanders)
- Former Villains (Crocodile, Enel, Moria, possibly Doflamingo, possibly Magellan)
- Former Shichibukai (Mihawk, Hancock, Buggy, Kuma, Weevil)
- The Supernova (Kid, Killer, Law, Drake, Hawkins, Apoo, Bege, Urouge, and Bonney)
- The SHF
- All allying and enemy Kingdoms taking part in this war
- The Underworld
- The Level 6 Inmates that escaped during the Paramount War (Still unaddressed)
- Former Whitebeard/Roger/Rocks pirates or any other Pirate group willing to take part as allies or enemies.


Like dude, its not small. Not at all. Oda has entirely end loaded his story. Either he just skips or drops tons of things or he will spend years drawing it out. Considering how much he keeps hyping it up, I'd prefer to think it will be the latter.


Edit:

IMO, after Kaido/BM:

- Blackbeard (Laugh Tale)
- Akainu (New Marineford/Mariejois)
- Im (Mariejois)
- Shanks (God Valley)


Is the order/rundown the antagonists Luffy will face. Blackbeard is mainly a roadblock to Luffy becoming PK, not warring with the WG. Finding OP and learning of the Void Century/True History is pretty central to even challening the WG (whom Akainu/Im will comprise of Luffy main villains there). Mihawk needs to be fought last for Zoro and Shanks is virtually the only group that can face people while also giving Zoro the battle he deserves because Mihawk and Shanks are associated with each other. Shanks is, pretty much confirmed due to his conversation with the Gorosei, not good like people think. There is a reason Oda drew that double spread as a shock. It's supposed to be shocking, because WTF is going on with him. He's also the same age as the God Valley incident. I also think God Valley is the last location this series will actually visit. It was hidden for a reason after Rocks failed to do what he wanted to do. Why?

I do NOT think that is coincidence.

 

[HA001]

sigh ... sorry mate ... I'm having an adult conversation about one piece plot with @MarineHQ62

your weak fan fictions are just an insult to one piece ...

if you value characters base on

- who will stay alive
- who have what power
- who will be in final war

than I guess you and I don't have care about same things ....

you are so full of hate and insecurity that it's almost sad to reply to your posts

shanks aint shit and will die to bb and the story will be fine.

 

[Yere93]

A God Valley/Shanks ending would be glorious for me

 

[HA001]

God valley cant be after imu

Rox failed to become king of the world.

Imu is an 800 year old power

 

[Paperchampion23]

God valley cant be after imu

Rox failed to become king of the world.

Imu is an 800 year old power

? Rocks went to God Valley for a reason we don't know. The WG "erased" that island from maps since then. We have no idea what the relevance of God Valley is. We also have no idea if Im is actually 800 years old (I could see him being that though). We, still again, have no idea what Shanks' role is. The location (God Valley), was just a guess, just like Shanks being the final antagonist.

 

[HA001]

? Rocks went to God Valley for a reason we don't know. The WG "erased" that island from maps since then. We have no idea what the relevance of God Valley is. We also have no idea if Im is actually 800 years old (I could see him being that though). We, still again, have no idea what Shanks' role is. The location (God Valley), was just a guess, just like Shanks being the final antagonist.

Rox is tied to bb these are all recent goings on in the world within the last 40 years.

Imu is part of the 800 power that destroyed joyboy and has held the world in its grasp since. Only one is clearly the final villian. To do what joyboy failed to do what roger was to early for and thats over throw the wg.

 

[Reborn]

I don't think Luffy knowing about one piece means it's end of one piece.

Tbh, oda is being an idealist here instead of being pragmatic.

Yes, he knows the story but everything is just ideas in his mind right now.

When he will actually start drawing those ideas he will get so pre occupied with so much to cover and not to mention the enthusiasm that soon we will be starring 7-8 years window in one piece to end.

 

[MarineHQ]

The Introduction of Imu pretty much kills the idea off Laugh tale being the end all be all of OP, tbh. An 800+ year old individual that's secretly ruling the world.

If the war starts post Wano and meets it's climax at Laugh tale, then maybe, but it's still unlikely.

New Marineford was built and hyped to be the strongest it has ever been for a reason. The Marines need to be defeated at their strongest by Luffy's alliance.

Obviously the main answer people are looking out for is "What's the One piece?", but it seems like the treasure is merely a guide to doing something that has beating Imu as a main goal.

Just think about how small all these legendary characters are in comparison to Imu. Roger, WB, Admirals, Yonkou etc.

They're allowed to exist because of Imu

 

[Kromage911]

The Introduction of Imu pretty much kills the idea off Laugh tale being the end all be all of OP, tbh. An 800+ year old individual that's secretly ruling the world.

If the war starts post Wano and meets it's climax at Laugh tale, then maybe, but it's still unlikely.

New Marineford was built and hyped to be the strongest it has ever been for a reason. The Marines need to be defeated at their strongest by Luffy's alliance.

Obviously the main answer people are looking out for is "What's the One piece?", but it seems like the treasure is merely a guide to doing something that has beating Imu as a main goal.

Exactly. Reaching Laugh Tale feels more like a start to another journey rather than the destination itself.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Rox is tied to bb these are all recent goings on in the world within the last 40 years.

Imu is part of the 800 power that destroyed joyboy and has held the world in its grasp since. Only one is clearly the final villian. To do what joyboy failed to do what roger was to early for and thats over throw the wg.

These are all theories still man, as much as I believe them too. I'm just saying that I believe Shanks is more inherently tied to the Rocks plot than Blackbeard is. Shanks IS 39 years old, same age as the incident. Roger pretty much has hinted at having Shanks since he was a baby.

Yes, Blackbeard has a ship named Saber of Xebec. I get that.

But no, I don't think a villain that is introduced 1000+ chapters into the manga will be considered the absolute final villain (Im). This was the EXACT problem people had with Naruto and Bleach. Shanks has the pure advantage of being introduced in Chapter 1 with Luffy, all intrinsically tied to the plot of Luffy's hat. Not even Blackbeard and Akainu have this advantage, no matter how set up they are to being Luffy's adversaries in the future.

Oda had repeatedly claimed he's known the end to his manga since before starting One Piece. Guess who's the only major character outside of Luffy in Chapter 1? Shanks.

Shanks screams "final" antagonist to me because it comes off as surprising to the reader, is tied to the main character in such a personal way as a role model, and would be extremely emotional because of it. Really nothing about defeating Blackbeard/Akainu/Im would be remotely as emotional as defeating Shanks. It's not really on the same playing field to be honest. Yes, those moments WILL be epic, but I don't believe they are the emotional payoff Oda is going for with an ending.

Not to mention, Mihawk literally doesn't fit anywhere else to face Zoro. Blackbeard, Akainu, and Im all have their "Swordsmen" archetype filled. Is Mihawk supposed to just go to Zoro and say "Hey, I know you are fighting in this war to determine the fate of the world, but battle me instead now!". If he is present purely to fight Zoro because Luffy needs to face Shanks, THAT makes way more sense to me than just shoehorning him into other groups or group issues.


Just my opinion though, you clearly disagree and thats fine.

 

[HA001]

These are all theories still man, as much as I believe them too. I'm just saying that I believe Shanks is more inherently tied to the Rocks plot than Blackbeard is. Shanks IS 39 years old, same age as the incident. Roger pretty much has hinted at having Shanks since he was a baby.

Yes, Blackbeard has a ship named Saber of Xebec. I get that.

But no, I don't think a villain that is introduced 1000+ chapters into the manga will be considered the absolute final villain (Im). This was the EXACT problem people had with Naruto. Shanks has the pure advantage of being introduced in Chapter 1 with Luffy, all intrinsically tied to the plot of Luffy's hat. Not even Blackbeard and Akainu have this advantage, no matter how set up they are to being Luffy's adversaries in the future.

Oda had repeatedly claimed he's known the end to his manga since before starting One Piece. Guess who's the only major character outside of Luffy in Chapter 1? Shanks.

Shanks screams "final" antagonist to me because it comes off as surprising to the reader, is tied to the main character in such a personal way as a role model, and would be extremely emotional because of it. Really nothing about defeating Blackbeard/Akainu/Im would be remotely as emotional as defeating Shanks. It's not really on the same playing field to be honest. Yes, those moments WILL be epic, but I don't believe they are the emotional payoff Oda is going for with an ending.

Not to mention, Mihawk literally doesn't fit anywhere else to face Zoro. Blackbeard, Akainu, and Im all have their "Swordsmen" archetype filled. Is Mihawk supposed to just go to Zoro and say "Hey, I know you are fighting in this war to determine the fate of the world, but battle me instead now!". If he is present purely to fight Zoro because Luffy needs to face Shanks, THAT makes way more sense to me than just shoehorning him into other groups or group issues.


Just my opinion though, you clearly disagree and thats fine.

How can shanks be the final villain when this is about joyboys prophecy that lasted 800 years that doesnt make sense.

And no its not like kaguya who was last min inclusion. Weve already seen imu way before we will see him in action.

 

[Paperchampion23]

How can shanks be the final villain when this is about joyboys prophecy that lasted 800 years that doesnt make sense.

And no its not like kaguya who was last min inclusion. Weve already seen imu way before we will see him in action.

Because we don't know Shanks' motivation yet. Why is it black and white "Shanks isn't 800 years old so he can't be the final villain" I'm still saying Im is one of the "final" villains, just not that actual LAST antagonist.

Please reflect on this:

- He is talking to people who orchestrate genocide
- He requested the meeting
- He is literally hiding his identity to prevent anyone knowing this connection to the Gorosei.
- They specifically say his "standing" has nothing to do with politics. Not the pure fact that he's a fucking Yonko. This right there spells out that he serves a role outside of politics with the Gorosei.
- He doesn't openly mention Blackbeard as the pirate, and I don't think that is the pirate he is talking about.


Like this shit is from the author. Why is there a level of denial about Shanks being more than just "Luffy's bro mentor"? I don't see Shanks getting killed off by Blackbeard, way too simplistic and silly considering what I just posted^


Edit: I'm not even saying Shanks is a "pure evil villain". I'm just saying it way more complicated than that and it would be classic Oda for him to have had the final antagonist in front of our faces the ENTIRE time.

 

[HA001]

Because we don't know Shanks' motivation yet. Why is it black and white "Shanks isn't 800 years old so he can't be the final villain" I'm still saying Im is one of the "final" villains, just not that actual LAST antagonist.

Please reflect on this:

- He is talking to people who orchestrate genocide
- He requested the meeting
- He is literally hiding his identity to prevent anyone knowing this connection to the Gorosei.
- They specifically say his "standing" has nothing to do with politics. Not the pure fact that he's a fucking Yonko. This right there spells out that he serves a role outside of politics with the Gorosei.
- He doesn't openly mention Blackbeard as the pirate, and I don't think that is the pirate he is talking about.


Like this shit is from the author. Why is there a level of denial about Shanks being more than just "Luffy's bro mentor"? I don't see Shanks getting killed off by Blackbeard, way too simplistic and silly considering what I just posted^

And then what happened
We fukin saw imu sama the one true king

And a old ass giant strawhats

The point of this story is bigger and older than shanks

 

[Paperchampion23]

And then what happened
We fukin saw imu sama the one true king

And a old ass giant strawhats

The point of this story is bigger and older than shanks

And yet, not as personal. My whole point in this argument. Sorry bro, I dont agree

 

[HA001]

And yet, not as personal. My whole point in this argument. Sorry bro, I dont agree

Thata fine. We will find out eventually.