Current Events One piece ending in 4 years confirmed

[Paperchampion23]

35 more on Wano, more than enough.
35+35 on final War, more than enough, if needed more there will be spare from other arc which wont last a year.
Elbaf and Raftel wont last 35 together, there is nothing in them to last that long.
Looking at One Piece treasure, reading void century history and Raughing at best takes 5 chapters.
That means 30 chapters to spend on Elbaf... On what exactly, lol?
Even if he sets up Blackbeard pirates vs SHs elsewhere other than final war, thats 20 chapters with each member getting 2 chapter fight.
There ya go, 10 chapters to spare for final war...

Wano is exceptionally long arc because of it's unique setting, others will go much faster, the story is wrapping up.
There is no need for long setup like in Wano... Things will get hectic after the two emperors fall in Wano, balance of powers will be gone and time will be of the essence to get things moving quickly.

I mean, you are compromising to "fit" into the narrative that 5 years is possible. "This can happen because I think this arc warrants only this length".

Wano isn't long because of its "unique" setting. Its long because it involves 60+ named characters all involved into its plot. Dressrosa was roughly 35 named characters doing the same thing and it ended up being roughly a 100 chapters.

The Final War will eclipse both of these arcs in sheer character count alone, not to mention ACTUAL plot relevance and characters who are VASTLY more important than Doflamingo, Kaido and Big Mom.


Don't be surprised when Wano last longer than 35 more chapters or that Elbaf is another 80 chapter arc. I'm just saying, don't be surprised if it happens.

 

[Zolo]

One Piece will never make it to chapter 1200

Mark my words guys :)

Considering how strong zoro currentlly is I agree. Its like a walk in a park for him ATM.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

35 more on Wano, more than enough.
35+35 on final War, more than enough, if needed more there will be spare from other arc which wont last a year.
Elbaf and Raftel wont last 35 together, there is nothing in them to last that long.
Looking at One Piece treasure, reading void century history and Raughing at best takes 5 chapters.
That means 30 chapters to spend on Elbaf... On what exactly, lol?
Even if he sets up Blackbeard pirates vs SHs elsewhere other than final war, thats 20 chapters with each member getting 2 chapter fight.
There ya go, 10 chapters to spare for final war...

Wano is exceptionally long arc because of it's unique setting, others will go much faster, the story is wrapping up.
There is no need for long setup like in Wano... Things will get hectic after the two emperors fall in Wano, balance of powers will be gone and time will be of the essence to get things moving quickly.

You're talking about Oda here who is all about setup chapters, and making the World feel as alive as possible. Would he like to end the series in 5 years? Maybe... Is he capable of doing it? Not a chance, because he just can't help drawing everything that comes to his mind.

 

[Finalbeta]

Considering how strong zoro currentlly is I agree. Its like a walk in a park for him ATM.

Haha yes

I believe there won't be too much progress from post Wano in on strenght wise

EoS Zoro will mid diff post Wano Zoro worst case

 

[dirtyLarry]

Well in 5 years from now going by an average of ~35 new chapters coming out a year, the manga will have come to the number of 1150+

Unless the manga will still go on it's not occurring

It's going on for at least another 7 years.

 

[Finalbeta]

It's going on for at least another 7 years.

Well I admit having it last exactly 30 years (1997-2027) is a fascinating thought

 

[Zolo]

Haha yes

I believe there won't be too much progress from post Wano in on strenght wise

EoS Zoro will mid diff post Wano Zoro worst case

Imagina how powerfull hes slashes will be. Whitmustache could destroy world. Zoro would cut it half... I wonder if giants originally ruled the world and humans are just dwarfs

 

[dirtyLarry]

35 more on Wano, more than enough.
35+35 on final War, more than enough, if needed more there will be spare from other arc which wont last a year.
Elbaf and Raftel wont last 35 together, there is nothing in them to last that long.
Looking at One Piece treasure, reading void century history and Raughing at best takes 5 chapters.
That means 30 chapters to spend on Elbaf... On what exactly, lol?
Even if he sets up Blackbeard pirates vs SHs elsewhere other than final war, thats 20 chapters with each member getting 2 chapter fight.
There ya go, 10 chapters to spare for final war...

Wano is exceptionally long arc because of it's unique setting, others will go much faster, the story is wrapping up.
There is no need for long setup like in Wano... Things will get hectic after the two emperors fall in Wano, balance of powers will be gone and time will be of the essence to get things moving quickly.

Lmao WTF?

That is fanfiction galore.

35 chapters left for Wano? Dude, we're still in act 3, the fights haven't even started yet and it's the biggest and most important arc up to date. Even on Enies Lobby, Dressrosa etc. the fights lasted 35+ chapters. No chance in hell Wano finishes in under 50 chapters.

As for the rest ("10 chapters to spare for the final war") - no comment.

That's so absurd, I have to assume you're just trolling.

 

[Finalbeta]

Imagina how powerfull hes slashes will be. Whitmustache could destroy world. Zoro would cut it half... I wonder if giants originally ruled the world and humans are just dwarfs

Probably continental level my friend, at least by hax

I can see both Luffy and Zoro surpassing Whitebeard, not sure of how much exactly

 

[Zolo]

Probably continental level my friend, at least by hax

I can see both Luffy and Zoro surpassing Whitebeard, not sure of how much exactly

Luffy need awakaning so bad now to mach zoro in strenght

 

[nik87]

I mean, you are compromising to "fit" into the narrative that 5 years is possible. "This can happen because I think this arc warrants only this length".
Wano isn't long because of its "unique" setting. Its long because it involves 60+ named characters all involved into its plot. Dressrosa was roughly 35 named characters doing the same thing and it ended up being roughly a 100 chapters.

The Final War will eclipse both of these arcs in sheer character count alone, not to mention ACTUAL plot relevance and characters who are VASTLY more important than Doflamingo, Kaido and Big Mom.
Don't be surprised when Wano last longer than 35 more chapters or that Elbaf is another 80 chapter arc. I'm just saying, don't be surprised if it happens.

That's the difference between final arc and all others. No residents that need to be rescued, no good guys to get familiar with.
All players are already familiar and fully introduced before that arc even starts.
All those allies which are side characters wont get much panel time, off-screening is something Oda isnt scared off.
Main cast will get the panel time. ~80 chapters are plenty.

You're talking about Oda here who is all about setup chapters, and making the World feel as alive as possible. Would he like to end the series in 5 years? Maybe... Is he capable of doing it? Not a chance, because he just can't help drawing everything that comes to his mind.

Actually my post was targetting 4 years but sure, 5 is doable too.

Lmao WTF?
That is fanfiction galore.
35 chapters left for Wano? Dude, we're still in act 3, the fights haven't even started yet and it's the biggest and most important arc up to date. Even on Enies Lobby, Dressrosa etc. the fights lasted 35+ chapters. No chance in hell Wano finishes in under 50 chapters.
As for the rest ("10 chapters to spare for the final war") - no comment.
That's so absurd, I have to assume you're just trolling.

And? You think everyone will get an isolated 2 chapters long solo fight? It is a battlefield, fights will go fast, most likely wont be 1vs1s.
EL fights lasted 2 chapters for each character so 12 chapters, more or less... And they were isolated 1vs1s...
I am not trolling, you just dont see that future arcs wont have the same setup, especially final war.

We wont be looking at OP treasure for 20 chapters, we wont be gathering samurai for final arc, the entire world SHs traveled through is already gathered, they will all just show up. There are no civilians to be convinced that leaders are bad, it already happened...
Things will pick up pace. Sure, I can be wrong about it but if people think that 4 years are impossible, they are not.

 

[Lifeismeh]

And? You think everyone will get an isolated 2 chapters long solo fight? It is a battlefield, fights will go fast, most likely wont be 1vs1s.
EL fights lasted 2 chapters for each character so 12 chapters, more or less... And they were isolated 1vs1s...
I am not trolling, you just dont see that future arcs wont have the same setup, especially final war.

We wont be looking at OP treasure for 20 chapters, we wont be gathering samurai for final arc, the entire world SHs traveled through is already gathered, they will all just show up. There are no civilians to be convinced that leaders are bad, it already happened...
Things will pick up pace. Sure, I can be wrong about it but if people think that 4 years are impossible, they are not.

of course they will, maybe each fights will last 3 chapters or even longer

heck this whole raid could fail, and Wano will last for another 100 chapters

I don't think its about if 4 years is possible or not, most likely Oda is not taking the route that would make it possible, if he is characters like yamato won't exist, heck half the scabbards would be removed from the story

also the fact that hes prolonging Orachi and Kanjuro plotlines by faking their deaths

nothing from the current event make it seem Oda is rushing anything nor he plan to resolve the story of a yonko crew without major fights

 

[nik87]

of course they will, maybe each fights will last 3 chapters or even longer

heck this whole raid could fail, and Wano will last for another 100 chapters

I don't think its about if 4 years is possible or not, most likely Oda is not taking the route that would make it possible, if he is characters like yamato won't exist, heck half the scabbards would be removed from the story

also the fact that hes prolonging Orachi and Kanjuro plotlines by faking their deaths

nothing from the current event make it seem Oda is rushing anything nor he plan to resolve the story of a yonko crew without major fights

No. 3 chapter long 1vs1s never happened before.
No. Just why? lol
I am not saying he will do it in 4 years for sure, I say it is doable.
He is faking their deaths? o.O
Did any 1vs1 happen in Marineford?

 

[Yere93]

35 chapters left for wano! WHAT!

If you tell me there are 100 chapters left I would believe it but I think 60-70 is the most reasonable, ending Act 3 in chapter 1000 then about 40 from Act 4 and 10-15 from Act 5 as a prologue, we are gonna leave Wano at the beggining of 2022 not before that

 

[Lifeismeh]

No. 3 chapter long 1vs1s never happened before.
No. Just why? lol
I am not saying he will do it in 4 years for sure, I say it is doable.
He is faking their deaths? o.O
Did any 1vs1 happen in Marineford?

never happened before because past arcs were not as major as this arc nor are they even comparable on how much build up they had

there's huge build up to this arc, it only make sense it will have much bigger fights than any past arc, it also involve a yonko, who are on another level than any past villain SHs faced, and am not talking about PL here

marineford and Wano aren't comparable, Oda didn't want to show the abilities of most characters involved in that arc, for many characters MF was just build up to their future role in the story

here this is the finale of the Beast Pirates, and for sure will coincide with major development to all SHs and SNs since this will be their biggest victory yet

and yes Orachi and Kanjuro are alive, am certain of that

what am saying Oda won't go the route that make it possible for him to end it in 4 years nor there's any indication to that based on how he's handling Wano so far

 

[nik87]

never happened before because past arcs were not as major as this arc nor are they even comparable on how much build up they had
there's huge build up to this arc, it only make sense it will have much bigger fights than any past arc, it also involve a yonko, who are on another level than any past villain SHs faced, and am not talking about PL here

marineford and Wano aren't comparable, Oda didn't want to show the abilities of most characters involved in that arc, for many characters MF was just build up to their future role in the story
here this is the finale of the Beast Pirates, and for sure will coincide with major development to all SHs and SNs since this will be their biggest victory yet

and yes Orachi and Kanjuro are alive, am certain of that
what am saying Oda won't go the route that make it possible for him to end it in 4 years nor there's any indication to that based on how he's handling Wano so far

I'd love to be wrong about it and that manga lasts longer but if he wants it done in 4 years, he can do so. We will see how he handles it.

 

[Paperchampion23]

That's the difference between final arc and all others. No residents that need to be rescued, no good guys to get familiar with.
All players are already familiar and fully introduced before that arc even starts.
All those allies which are side characters wont get much panel time, off-screening is something Oda isnt scared off.
Main cast will get the panel time. ~80 chapters are plenty.

Actually my post was targetting 4 years but sure, 5 is doable too.

And? You think everyone will get an isolated 2 chapters long solo fight? It is a battlefield, fights will go fast, most likely wont be 1vs1s.
EL fights lasted 2 chapters for each character so 12 chapters, more or less... And they were isolated 1vs1s...
I am not trolling, you just dont see that future arcs wont have the same setup, especially final war.

We wont be looking at OP treasure for 20 chapters, we wont be gathering samurai for final arc, the entire world SHs traveled through is already gathered, they will all just show up. There are no civilians to be convinced that leaders are bad, it already happened...
Things will pick up pace. Sure, I can be wrong about it but if people think that 4 years are impossible, they are not.

This whole post comes off entirely like a bunch of absolute statements. Everything you are saying is entirely contradicted by the way Oda paces his manga lol. 15 Chapters into Onigashima and not one major character has fallen. Hell, there are hints to Orochi/Kanjuro being fine as of last chapter. You can say "x chapters is enough time" all you want. It won't convince me considering how past arcs have been paced.

And then this awkward idea that Oda won't introduce more minor characters in future arcs? Like, you sure about that buddy? Even outside of that, the SSG is already a group of new designs Oda will draw, along with Vegapunk. They are a group of scientists. At least 4 unknown designs for CP-0 exist. At least 1 unknown Blackbeard captain exists. Ryokygyu's design is still unknown. So is Im and Rocks and other Rocks pirates. There are Level 6 pirates at large still not shown yet. And that's just the IMPORTANT characters. He LIVES to draw the minor ones. Look at Wano lmao.

"Surely THIS time he'll pick up the pace and introduce less characters".

 

[nik87]

This whole post comes off entirely like a bunch of absolute statements. Everything you are saying is entirely contradicted by the way Oda paces his manga lol. 15 Chapters into Onigashima and not one major character has fallen. Hell, there are hints to Orochi/Kanjuro being fine as of last chapter. You can say "x chapters is enough time" all you want. It won't convince me considering how past arcs have been paced.

And then this awkward idea that Oda won't introduce more minor characters in future arcs? Like, you sure about that buddy? Even outside of that, the SSG is already a group of new designs Oda will draw, along with Vegapunk. They are a group of scientists. At least 4 unknown designs for CP-0 exist. At least 1 unknown Blackbeard captain exists. Ryokygyu's design is still unknown. So is Im and Rocks and other Rocks pirates. There are Level 6 pirates at large still not shown yet. And that's just the IMPORTANT characters. He LIVES to draw the minor ones. Look at Wano lmao.

"Surely THIS time he'll pick up the pace and introduce less characters".

Pay attention to how much it takes to actually do the fights - 2 chapters tops.
If every Strawhat gets a 2 chapter long fight that's 20 chapters to down 10 big baddies, more than WG has...
And if the arc's duration is 80 chapters, minus the 20 on downing the baddies, you got 60 chapters left to do all you could think off.
More than enough.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Pay attention to how much it takes to actually do the fights - 2 chapters tops.
If every Strawhat gets a 2 chapter long fight that's 20 chapters to down 10 big baddies, more than WG has...
And if the arc's duration is 80 chapters, minus the 20 on downing the baddies, you got 60 chapters left to do all you could think off.
More than enough.

"2 Chapters tops"


This has been the case since the beginning of the series for anyone outside of Luffy. And that's not even the point. Its the clear set up to those chapters. That is Oda's Achilles heel. He spent virtually 60 chapters in Wano before any conflict started. 15 chapters later, it still hasn't actually, truly started, aside for some random skirmishes.

For example, it took Dressrosa nearly 30 chapters to go from "Bird Cage" to the first actual 1v1 battle where someone fell. We are 15 chapters into Wano with no instance of this happening yet. No set matchups. No set anything to be honest. And that's not a bad thing, but it takes time.

You keep saying "more than enough" like you are 100% sure you know that is going to happen lol.

 

[Darkoplax]

Elbaf Arc (short arc): [1], [4]
Laugh Tale Arc: [3], [6.1]
Final War Arc: [2], [5], [6.2], [8], [9]
Other: [7]

Luffy may not meet Shanks; instead, Blackbeard kills the truly strongest Emperor.

So Oda publish on average 40 chapters per year (most years less than that but let's say 40 at max for the argument)

- let's say Elbaf is a short arc like Punk Hazard so 46~ chapters so that's a year already gone even tho i 100% believe that an arc that's been that hyped since the 90s won't be a "short" arc it's simply too stupid

- Laugh tell is from what you're telling is quite eventful so probably same as Dressrosa and Wano so 2+ years arc

- We are already over 3 years and you want the last arc aka the final war to be less than 2 years yet you put most events into it


This is obviously assuming it's just 3 arcs strict lmao , without any detours or new islands or new story lines to come up ... like there's still many other things to be answered other than these MAIN plot points

The optimist in me thinks that the Reverie is only a taste of how post-Wano chapters will be. We will (hopefully) get tons of chapters like that in the future. That pretty much is the only way I can "see" Oda finishing in 5-7 years. The payoffs have to be huge per chapter, there is barely any real estate (panels) to waste time if he's looking to legitimately end it in 180-250 chapters. And I HIGHLY doubt this considering how far we are in Wano and the main battles haven't even started yet. While Wano is moving "fast", the huge amount of plots/characters make each week feel like he's still moving at a relatively slow pace.

So to say "5 more years" when he virtually can't even tell when he'll finish Wano is interesting. Let alone the fact that Luffy clearly needs to find the 4th RP, which is not on Wano. So we know there is SOMETHING between Wano and Laugh Tale (likely Elbaf/Lodestar)

This might be an unpopular opinion but Reverie is THE MOST DISAPPOINTING ARC ever. esepcially with the recent events that we are wrapping things up and we won't get another one


This was supposed to be the last Reverie in the story , the one that answers all our questions and give us a good perspective moving forward instead what did we get ?

OFF SCREENS :

- why tf not show anything from the Garp/Roger vs Rocks shit , when are you gonna get to that when you want to wrap up the story so now i'm assuming it will never be adressed and just an "event" of the past

- what the fuck are the revolutionaries are doing ? can we get any full scenes about them ? what happened to Sabo ?

- Who's the man Shanks talking about

BUNCH OF SILLHOUTTES :

- Imu
- Rocks
- Greenbull
- Blackbeard Pirates (WHY?!?)

why hide their designs ? it's the END game if we're not gonna see them now then are we gonna see them for few chapters before the series end ?

MORE MYSTERY :

- What's Shanks doing ?
- What's the great cleansing ?
- What's the importance of the Strawhat ?
- What's bonney doing ?




Like you see the point , Reverie is imo if what Oda is saying is true and he's ending One Piece soon then Reverie is a total failure despite it gave us a lot of hype it legit didn't answer any question and it only gave us more for absolute no reason (like the Rocks story could'v not existed and we could still be fine but Oda had to put it there and now what he's gonna skip it ?)