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[Red Admiral]

And yet, not as personal. My whole point in this argument. Sorry bro, I dont agree

I guess he just see Shanks , Teach , Kaido and Big Mom as "hype tool" ....
and don't expect them to change anything in overall plot

Luffy will become Pirate King and he will beat Imu after that is all he see in one piece


I find one piece plot equal to "Song of Ice and Fire"
he find one piece plot equal to "Game of Throne season 8"

 

[Paperchampion23]

I guess he just see Shanks , Teach , Kaido and Big Mom as "hype tool" ....
and don't expect them to change anything in overall plot

Luffy will become Pirate King and he will beat Imu after that is all he see in one piece


I find one piece plot equal to "Song of Ice and Fire"
he find one piece plot equal to "Game of Throne season 8"

He's got good points to be made. Im and the WG are probably the biggest points of this plot and why the Final War will be fought. However, I think the manga will end on a more personal note. Defeating Im just doesnt "feel" personal. Defeating Shanks because he isn't who we thought he was is entirely emotional and personal, especially to Luffy.


In the end, I think we can all agree that Blackbeard, Akainu and Im are antagonists that will be dealt with. I do think Shanks is on that list too, purely from what I've posted and the number of times that Luffy has openly declared beating all 4 Yonko, including Shanks.

In the end, we have to look forward to Kaido and BM now anyways, so its a moot argument

 

[Red Admiral]

He's got good points to be made. Im and the WG are probably the biggest points of this plot and why the Final War will be fought. However, I think the manga will end on a more personal note. Defeating Im just doesnt "feel" personal. Defeating Shanks because he isn't who we thought he was is entirely emotional and personal, especially to Luffy.


In the end, I think we can all agree that Blackbeard, Akainu and Im are antagonists that will be dealt with. I do think Shanks is on that list too, purely from what I've posted and the number of times that Luffy has openly declared beating all 4 Yonko, including Shanks.

In the end, we have to look forward to Kaido and BM now anyways, so its a moot argument

Akainu as main antagonist? don't think so .... but again .... even pay attention to what Oda said even in last SBS

he is implying that after wano ... the world of one piece would be on move ...

this is the last arc where

- Luffy goes to island
- find friends
- fight the bad guys
- win

after this the entire world is about to be on the move

Shanks already started his move
Teach should be ready for move
Dragon is already on the move
Warlords set free to make a move
New Rocks would be on the move


one piece final war should have a place for all of them .... and it can .... too many forces are ready to do their share

if Luffy want to do his old plot ... he would stay behind


I guess there is only gonna be 1 major war after wano and that's final war ... where all the players face each other

 

[Paperchampion23]

Akainu as main antagonist? don't think so .... but again .... even pay attention to what Oda said even in last SBS

he is implying that after wano ... the world of one piece would be on move ...

this is the last arc where

- Luffy goes to island
- find friends
- fight the bad guys
- win

after this the entire world is about to be on the move

Shanks already started his move
Teach should be ready for move
Dragon is already on the move
Warlords set free to make a move
New Rocks would be on the move


one piece final war should have a place for all of them .... and it can .... too many forces are ready to do their share

if Luffy want to do his old plot ... he would stay behind


I guess there is only gonna be 1 major war after wano and that's final war ... where all the players face each other

Nah I'm just saying that Akainu is a major antagonist, not at all the final one

 

[Finalbeta]

Nah I'm just saying that Akainu is a major antagonist, not at all the final one

Of course

For all we know not even BB is a final villain

Oda is such an unpredictable man

In the best of scenarios, BB is allegedly the final villain whilst Akainu stands 0 chance to be the one :)

 

[Red Admiral]

Nah I'm just saying that Akainu is a major antagonist, not at all the final one

yea but my main point was rest of the post

Oda already told us what he want to do ...
he gonna give us a war among pirates
not Luffy beat Kaido and Big Mom
Shanks and BB beat each other


all the pirate world face each other ... for the throne


that's the role of new rocks ... to make it happen ....​

 

[Yere93]

Zoro wants to be the best swordsman in the world but he hasn't fought with many and that is one of my biggest disappointments in Wano (I'm looking at you Kyoshiro) so fighting Mihawk before the endgame would be a disservice to the character that's why I like it so much he theory of Shanks / Mihawk final rivals in GodValley.

Besides a confrontation with a gray character sounds much more attractive to me than the predictable black and white, the SH are white, the WG black but Shanks is a wild card, he can be anything.

 

[Paperchampion23]

yea but my main point was rest of the post

Oda already told us what he want to do ...
he gonna give us a war among pirates
not Luffy beat Kaido and Big Mom
Shanks and BB beat each other


all the pirate world face each other ... for the throne


that's the role of new rocks ... to make it happen ....​

Well, to be fair and right before that. Doflamingo mentions Akainu and the Marines. The "Throne Wars" isn't exclusive to pirates.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

You say that like its such a small thing left lol. It took 350 chapters to finally tie in and start dealing with Big Mom and Kaido.

The World Government is not "small". You have multiple sub-factions within its grouping:

- The Leaders: Im, Gorosei, Kong, whomever else runs the show in the World Government that we have yet to meet.
- CP-0: The agents that protect the Tennyruubito
- The Marines: Akainu, his Admirals and military (additional VA's we haven't seen, etc)
- The SSG: Vegapunk and his science team, replacing the Shichibukai.

Then factor in the pure fact that we know next to nothing about Shanks and Blackbeard. We have no idea if Shanks is "all good". He was shown talking to the Gorosei and people keep denying that he isn't being weird or shady. These 2 are vastly more important Yonko that BM and Kaido. Do I expect another 400 chapters to deal with them (if Shanks is bad)? Definitely not, but their stories will have to be built up, just like Big Mom and Kaido. They will (probably) factor into this huge war with the WG somehow.

Then tie in virtually every other additional group that has the potential (I won't say guaranteed) to participate in this war:

- The Revolutionaries (Dragon, Sabo, The 5 RA Commanders)
- Former Villains (Crocodile, Enel, Moria, possibly Doflamingo, possibly Magellan)
- Former Shichibukai (Mihawk, Hancock, Buggy, Kuma, Weevil)
- The Supernova (Kid, Killer, Law, Drake, Hawkins, Apoo, Bege, Urouge, and Bonney)
- The SHF
- All allying and enemy Kingdoms taking part in this war
- The Underworld
- The Level 6 Inmates that escaped during the Paramount War (Still unaddressed)
- Former Whitebeard/Roger/Rocks pirates or any other Pirate group willing to take part as allies or enemies.


Like dude, its not small. Not at all. Oda has entirely end loaded his story. Either he just skips or drops tons of things or he will spend years drawing it out. Considering how much he keeps hyping it up, I'd prefer to think it will be the latter.


Edit:

IMO, after Kaido/BM:

- Blackbeard (Laugh Tale)
- Akainu (New Marineford/Mariejois)
- Im (Mariejois)
- Shanks (God Valley)


Is the order/rundown the antagonists Luffy will face. Blackbeard is mainly a roadblock to Luffy becoming PK, not warring with the WG. Finding OP and learning of the Void Century/True History is pretty central to even challening the WG (whom Akainu/Im will comprise of Luffy main villains there). Mihawk needs to be fought last for Zoro and Shanks is virtually the only group that can face people while also giving Zoro the battle he deserves because Mihawk and Shanks are associated with each other. Shanks is, pretty much confirmed due to his conversation with the Gorosei, not good like people think. There is a reason Oda drew that double spread as a shock. It's supposed to be shocking, because WTF is going on with him. He's also the same age as the God Valley incident. I also think God Valley is the last location this series will actually visit. It was hidden for a reason after Rocks failed to do what he wanted to do. Why?

I do NOT think that is coincidence.

I'm just saying there's only one major saga left. Blackbeard and Akainu are Luffy's most noteworthy enemies, the former having build-up since Drum Island Arc. There's no telling if Im's even a fighter or a figurehead fodder like Spandam but on a larger scale.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I'm just saying there's only one major saga left. Blackbeard and Akainu are Luffy's most noteworthy enemies, the former having build-up since Drum Island Arc. There's no telling if Im's even a fighter or a figurehead fodder like Spandam but on a larger scale.

True. We'll see. Something tells me the amount of "godly" respect the Gorosei give him probably means he's not like Spandam. On top of this, showing as pointless as Stelly desiring the throne, only for there to be someone hidden who actually sits on it, almost sort of proves that this person probably has a huge presence. Not to mention the casual reflection of Im touching a butterfly. Im is probably a deep character more than anything, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's the strongest person in the WG, considering the Gorosei seem to be combatants and are serious characters.

 

[dirtyLarry]

Usually, but this looks like a translation of the most recent SBS...straight from the source, it would seem.

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Listen, I’m as skeptical of Artur as the next guy, but if this is coming from an SBS, how badly could he mistranslate it? To the point that a question regarding Franky’s favorite food comes out reading like the conclusion to the series?

Artur once again badly fucked up and already backpaddled on Twitter, after Ohara (who is living in Japan and speaks way better Japanese than Artur) called him out for his blunder.

Oda simply hinted that "the most exciting part of Luffy's journey will be over in 5 years". Several (actual) native Japanese speakers have confirmed that.

Everyone can interpret this the way he/she wants, but imho it's pretty clear what Oda is telling us: In 5 years Luffy will have found the OP and becomes PK. That's "the most exciting part of Luffy's journey" after all.

It does NOT include the gigantic final war that this series has built up for 20+ years. I'm pretty sure Oda deliberately worded it this way.

This way it would make way more sense, too.

5 years (aka 175 chapters) seem like a reasonable amount of chapters to become PK, it's not enough to include the ultimate war at the end though.

I think it goes like this:
~50-60 chapters left of Wano (act three has about 10 chapters left, act four will be the climax and have around 40 chapters and act 5 will be a short 10 chapter wrap-up of Wano)
~50 chapters Elbaf (not that big of an arc)
~ 60 chapters of finding Raftel + final clash against BB + Void Century flashback + becoming PK

 

[Red Admiral]

Well, to be fair and right before that. Doflamingo mentions Akainu and the Marines. The "Throne Wars" isn't exclusive to pirates.

sure ... and that's my point

all of them would be part of that war

all Yonko
all Marine
all Reve army
all Supernova

Rocks war was : Good Pirates + Marine Vs Bad Pirates

Shanks + Marine Vs Teach + Big Mom + Kaido

would be the start of the war

Dragon and Imu would be be turning point

Luffy + Grand Fleet + supernovas would be key point


a world on war
greatest war of all times

 

[dirtyLarry]

If he cuts down on Elbaf+Raftel, 4 years are more than enough to wrap it all up.

Bullshit.

Oda is doing around 35 chapters per year these days.

4 years would equal to 140 chapters left.

Nobody in their right mind can actually believe that this is enough to end OP, after we spent 1000 chapters reading that story and still have a shitton of plotlines open.

Not to mention that Wano alone (being only in act three, zero fights having started) will at least last another 50 chapters, given Oda's record of arc climaxes.

So we have 90 chapters (!) to go to Elbaf (which WILL happen, make no mistake about it), find the last Road Ponegliff, find out how to go to Laugh Tale, actually really reach Raftel, the climax against BB, Luffy becoming PK, the Void Century Reveal/Joyboy Flashback, declaration and preparation for the final war, leadup to the final war (it won't start from one chapter to the next), the actual final war and the aftermath/ending of OP?

Just to put things into perspective - the entire second half of Dressrosa (after the Birdcage activation) lasted 60 chapters.

Good luck with that, lmao.

 

[Finalbeta]

One Piece will never make it to chapter 1200

Mark my words guys :)

 

[dirtyLarry]

One Piece will never make it to chapter 1200

Mark my words guys :)

It will easily reach 1200+ imho.

 

[Red Admiral]

One Piece will never make it to chapter 1200

Mark my words guys :)

+1200 is a given at this point .... the throne war might not even started at that point

there is just too much story left ....

 

[Finalbeta]

It will easily reach 1200+ imho.

Well in 5 years from now going by an average of ~35 new chapters coming out a year, the manga will have come to the number of 1150+

Unless the manga will still go on it's not occurring

 

[nik87]

Bullshit.
Oda is doing around 35 chapters per year these days.
4 years would equal to 140 chapters left.

Nobody in their right mind can actually believe that this is enough to end OP, after we spent 1000 chapters reading that story and still have a shitton of plotlines open.
Not to mention that Wano alone (being only in act three, zero fights having started) will at least last another 50 chapters, given Oda's record of arc climaxes.

So we have 90 chapters (!) to go to Elbaf (which WILL happen, make no mistake about it), find the last Road Ponegliff, find out how to go to Laugh Tale, actually really reach Raftel, the climax against BB, Luffy becoming PK, the Void Century Reveal/Joyboy Flashback, declaration and preparation for the final war, leadup to the final war (it won't start from one chapter to the next), the actual final war and the aftermath/ending of OP?

Just to put things into perspective - the entire second half of Dressrosa (after the Birdcage activation) lasted 60 chapters.
Good luck with that, lmao.

35 more on Wano, more than enough.
35+35 on final War, more than enough, if needed more there will be spare from other arc which wont last a year.
Elbaf and Raftel wont last 35 together, there is nothing in them to last that long.
Looking at One Piece treasure, reading void century history and Raughing at best takes 5 chapters.
That means 30 chapters to spend on Elbaf... On what exactly, lol?
Even if he sets up Blackbeard pirates vs SHs elsewhere other than final war, thats 20 chapters with each member getting 2 chapter fight.
There ya go, 10 chapters to spare for final war...

Wano is exceptionally long arc because of it's unique setting, others will go much faster, the story is wrapping up.
There is no need for long setup like in Wano... Things will get hectic after the two emperors fall in Wano, balance of powers will be gone and time will be of the essence to get things moving quickly.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Well in 5 years from now going by an average of ~35 new chapters coming out a year, the manga will have come to the number of 1150+

Unless the manga will still go on it's not occurring

I think you are too obsessed with Oda's comments being a measure of pure fact. As Greg put it, he's not a prophet, and he's notorious for underestimating his timestamps. Additionally, as Greg has put it multiple times, the 5 year comment is likely a marketing scheme.

Oda isn't thinking about his story as a measurement of chapter count. People will understand this as time goes on. There's no way Oda, the person who setup 90% of his major characters and major plotlines to be addressed at the end of the series, finishes in under 200 chapters from this point, not when Wano has another 30-50 chapters left on its own.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Look at it like this. Does anyone really think Oda is going to end the series two years, maybe even a year and a half shy of it's 30 year anniversary?

Do you honestly think that from this point right now, that roughly 140-175 chapters is going to be enough to conclude the entirety of One Piece? And that's granted Wano gets stretched out another 30-40 chapters, which would leave pretty much a Dressrosa/Marineford combo length arc for Raftel, Elbaf, and the EoS war...