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[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

That's what I am saying.
Vista's swordsmanship was equal to Mihawk's in that clash, definitely not superior considering Mihawk looked a lot more casual.

But still point is Data books (all of them where Luffy Zoro power levels are mentioned) say Luffy and Zoro are equals overall. They don't say they were equal in one clash, or Zoro knows Luffy is stronger/strongest.

That's why I just don't understand why @Chaves is such a liar. Like seriously, to lie for cartoons? Its kinda messed up lol

Bro that translation is wrong and made up shit .

▪ The original Japanese Text :
ミホークと互角以上の剣戦を演じるビスタ！
この勝負で、互いの剣が相手に届く事は無かった

▪ Translation :

Vista who clashes in a sword battle more than equal with Mihawk!
In this match, each other's swords never reached the opponent .

● No mention of swordmanship or anything lmao it's a hype for the clash only it's like the clash between Gyuki and Zoro .

▪ Gyuki is clashing with Zoro
Are we going to say :
Gyuki = Zoro or Gyuki's swordmanship is superior to Zoro's nitoryo and santoryo style .
▪ when they said swordmanship it's like they said Flowersword style is equal or superior to Mihawk's special swordstyle or superior to santoryo .:cheers::cheers::cheers:

 

[Marimo_420]

Imagine lying
🥱🥱🥱

 

[WesMidnight]

So I don't even buy the Jabura and Kaku were close, Kaku was portrayed close to Jabura in power without his 4 swords and Yontoryu is a MASSIVE buff.

Then there is Kakus devil fruit which clearly seemed like a bigger buff with Jabura scared of taking damage in just crossfire of Kakus Ranyaku and running away.

I think Kaku would mid diff Jabura overall like Sanji did

Then there is the fact that Kaku was basically fresh when Zoro went Ashura and Ashura casually obliterated an attack even stronger than the tower slicer and then neg diffed Kaku.

I think Ashura would casually take out DJ Sanji too.

So overall Zoro mid diffs Sanji in EL.

Then there was Shushui, holy shit Shushi was a MASSIVE BUFF to the point where Zoro was back to equaling Luffy and low diffing Sanji.

All of this is wonky headcanon based on the false premise of muh swords.
Yontoru is a fighting style not a massive buff. Hacchi isn't massively stronger than Kuroobi because of muh swords.

Kaku's fruit gave him a great AP boost high windup easily dodgeable attack, it was also the reason that he overextended and got hit by Asura due to his sloppiness.

A Kalifa-nerfed Sanji beat Jyabura with easier overall diff than Zoro beat Kaku, so even if Kaku is 10% stronger rather than less than 1% stronger than Jyabura, the strength gap between Zoro and Sanji is very close.

Yeah Sanji isn't getting hit by a move that required Kaku to sloppily overextend himself "casually". EL Zoro isn't more durable than a tekkai master Zoan, PIS aside, if he gets hit by multiple diable jambe he gets KO'd, just like Sanji would get KO'd by an Asura finisher.

Zoro had to stand by and watch as Luffy took on Moria despite his shadow being at stake, he could not compete with gear stacking, and it is ludicrous to suggest he could equal Luffy.

 

[HA001]

All of this is wonky headcanon based on the false premise of muh swords.
Yontoru is a fighting style not a massive buff. Hacchi isn't massively stronger than Kuroobi because of muh swords.

Kaku's fruit gave him a great AP boost high windup easily dodgeable attack, it was also the reason that he overextended and got hit by Asura due to his sloppiness.

A Kalifa-nerfed Sanji beat Jyabura with easier overall diff than Zoro beat Kaku, so even if Kaku is 10% stronger rather than less than 1% stronger than Jyabura, the strength gap between Zoro and Sanji is very close.

Yeah Sanji isn't getting hit by a move that required Kaku to sloppily overextend himself "casually". EL Zoro isn't more durable than a tekkai master Zoan, PIS aside, if he gets hit by multiple diable jambe he gets KO'd, just like Sanji would get KO'd by an Asura finisher.

Zoro had to stand by and watch as Luffy took on Moria despite his shadow being at stake, he could not compete with gear stacking, and it is ludicrous to suggest he could equal Luffy.

Lmfao whilst sanji was getting negged by ussop zoros stamina was being used not getting hit by hybrid kaku and jabra whilst nerfed by ussop.
Yet we dont say nerfed zoro beat kaku like you lot.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Imagine lying
🥱🥱🥱

If u talk about Vista it's expected from them

 

[WesMidnight]

Lmfao whilst sanji was getting negged by ussop zoros stamina was being used not getting hit by hybrid kaku and jabra whilst nerfed by ussop.
Yet we dont say nerfed zoro beat kaku like you lot.

Sanji was broken and defeated by his chivalry and his Kalifa's fruit, Zoro was in a gag sequence where Jabra and Kaku were getting in each others way moreso than anything and constant interruptions were occuring.

Compare Sanji's condition with blood trailing down his face and Zoro's condition at the end of 413 and try to be intellectually honest.

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

Lmfao whilst sanji was getting negged by ussop zoros stamina was being used not getting hit by hybrid kaku and jabra whilst nerfed by ussop.
Yet we dont say nerfed zoro beat kaku like you lot.

great point. Sanji fans and their nerfed excuses.

 

[WesMidnight]

great point. Sanji fans and their nerfed excuses.

Zoro fans and their magical increase of 100% strength because Kaku uses swords , despite this manga being based primarily on brawlers where the WSS has to create his own title because he can't compete with the WSM or WSC.

 

[Marimo_420]

If u talk about Vista it's expected from them

I can understand having wack headcannon, but I can't understand straight up lying through your teeth.

Some people are just weird.

 

[HA001]

Sanji was broken and defeated by his chivalry and his Kalifa's fruit, Zoro was in a gag sequence where Jabra and Kaku were getting in each others way moreso than anything and constant interruptions were occuring.

Compare Sanji's condition with blood trailing down his face and Zoro's condition at the end of 413 and try to be intellectually honest.

Kalifa is weak as piss compared to hybrid kaku and jabra who couldnt touch zoro.
By the time he fought kaku he had his stamina heavily drained. And he was nerfed by ussop.
Dadan and morgan drew blood from garp. It doesnt make them strong. Kalifa is still weak as piss.

 

[WesMidnight]

Kalifa is weak as piss compared to hybrid kaku and jabra who couldnt touch zoro.
By the time he fought kaku he had his stamina heavily drained. And he was nerfed by ussop.
Dadan and morgan drew blood from garp. It doesnt make them strong. Kalifa is still weak as piss.

Headcanon vs. visible injuries.
Garp was asleep and unaffected and that was a fucking gag, Sanji was in a corner battered and it was a serious setback for him.

 

[HA001]

Headcanon vs. visible injuries.
Garp was asleep and unaffected and that was a fucking gag, Sanji was in a corner battered and it was a serious setback for him.

Sanji vs kalifa Was a gag

Its not head canon at all. They already started chasing zoro nerfed by ussop before sanji even fought.

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

WSS has to create his own title because he can't compete with the WSM or WSC.

Aww the sanji fans are bitter coz world strongest cook is never a thing in this series

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Zoro fans and their magical increase of 100% strength because Kaku uses swords , despite this manga being based primarily on brawlers where the WSS has to create his own title because he can't compete with the WSM or WSC.

No one wants WSM after Wb died and there is no official WSC title and no one wants it

 

[Rmstorm]

No one wants WSM after Wb died and there is no official WSC title and no one wants it

To be WSM, you have to be equal to Prime Roger in strength, as shown in chapter 577. Basically impossible for anyone but Luffy, Shanks(maximum potential before he lost his arm), and Blackbeard.

 

[HA001]

To be WSM, you have to be equal to Prime Roger in strength, as shown in chapter 577. Basically impossible for anyone but Luffy, Shanks(maximum potential before he lost his arm), and Blackbeard.

Roger was equal to non gura wb

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

To be WSM, you have to be equal to Prime Roger in strength, as shown in chapter 577. Basically impossible for anyone but Luffy, Shanks(maximum potential before he lost his arm), and Blackbeard.

U can make excuses but no one wants that title

 

[Rmstorm]

Roger was equal to non gura wb

Nope, he was equal to Full powered Whitebeard. There is a reason the narrarator of the story has stated Whitebeard was equal to Roger in chapter 577.

What was shown in chapter 966 was sick Roger vs Non gura Whitebeard.

 

[HA001]

Nope, he was equal to Full powered Whitebeard. There is a reason the narrarator of the story has stated Whitebeard was equal to Roger in chapter 577.

What was shown in chapter 966 was sick Roger vs Non gura Whitebeard.

What we saw was wb could equal roger without using his devil fruit and it was a friendly fight.

 

[Rmstorm]

What we saw was wb could equal roger without using his devil fruit and it was a friendly fight.

No you are disagreeing with the narrarator of the story and Oda in One Piece magazine 9. You are beyond help, you are a toxic Zoro fanboy.