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This chapter also proof two things:
- Oden learn Ryou most like after travel around the world, my bet is on Roger crew since he doesn't know back then Ryou,Oden most like learn Ryou from Rayleigh and Roger.
-Normal Hardening on the swords like we see of Zoro and other characters aren't Ryou too, since the scabbard didn't know back then ryou yet still had most like haki.

Let see how Ryou looking like in this chapter when swordmens and Gunmens using it.
He learned it before he sailed, because the scabbards were trying to learn it while he was away. He also know the technique to cut the indestructible stone.
 

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Big Mom and Marco's discussion sounds kinda forced with the whole "We are not bound by Shirohige's words. We are free to act however we want" thing considering the WB pirates primary link to Luffy was their captain's order to protect him at all cost... or am I remembering things wrong?
PRetty much my thoughts. Whitebeards last order to Marco was to make sure luffy dont die. But maybe Marco has some other thought in it when he says that to Big Mum.
 
This chapter also proof two things:
- Oden learn Ryou most like after travel around the world, my bet is on Roger crew since he doesn't know back then Ryou,Oden most like learn Ryou from Rayleigh and Roger.
-Normal Hardening on the swords like we see of Zoro and other characters aren't Ryou too, since the scabbard didn't know back then ryou yet still had most like haki.

Let see how Ryou looking like in this chapter when swordmens and Gunmens using it.
Oden already knew how to use Ryou before leaving Wano...
The thing is that maybe he wasn't strong enough to conquer his ryou
 
This chapter also proof two things:
- Oden learn Ryou most like after travel around the world, my bet is on Roger crew since he doesn't know back then Ryou,Oden most like learn Ryou from Rayleigh and Roger.
-Normal Hardening on the swords like we see of Zoro and other characters aren't Ryou too, since the scabbard didn't know back then ryou yet still had most like haki.

Let see how Ryou looking like in this chapter when swordmens and Gunmens using it.
I think you're misunderstanding the summary here. Scabbards *did* learn how to use haki and were actually training behind Oden's back.
 

stairs-kun

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Na after since he try to training the Scabbard after coming back not before sailing away.
He also was shocked when he see Ryou firsttime from Roger and Whitebeard, back then he didn't know it.
I'm pretty sure Oden haki is different, he knew a technique to cut an indestructible stone from before he traveled with Roger. It was a technique passed down by the Kozuki. If he could already cut something indestructible, further proves he already had some advanced form of Ryuo.
 
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