US Presidental Race : 2020

[bennbeckman]

scientist or rather medical scientist doesnt thing as a whole they only thing there standpoint is important thats not the case if you look at the deaths and causes and compare it to covid you will realize they have dramatically exaggerated covid to the point that the economic strain is far greater than the pandemic itself

I will live in germany we have a good social system the us doesnt have such a system if you look the economy the
consequences will be greater than what covid could wreak

Trump is right here instead of locking the economy you can create fast basic hospitals just for covid cases it would benefit more than the us lockdown

What is a Social System?

Every US state is opened up (Not on Full Lockdown) and has been since May and June. I disagree with you because Trump has no idea what he's talking about. First he called the virus a Dem Hoax, he wants to open it up for the sake of opening it up because he believes in "Herd Immunity". Everything regarding Trump and covid has been wrong.

Issue with US is half the people (mainly Trumpers) cares about social distancing and masks

Also States have more control of opening up businesses than gov't.

 

[Zenos7]

First he called the virus a Dem Hoax

no he didnt, he called their response and criticism of his handling a hoax.
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he wants to open it up for the sake of opening it up

for the sake of the economy you mean?

 

[bennbeckman]

no he didnt, he called their response and criticism of his handling a hoax.
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for the sake of the economy you mean?

Dems knew it was going to be dangerous, obviously Trump didnt give a shit and now look where the US is. Made a false statement it was going away in February, He went further and said it would disappear in April. Also said it The dude literally complains about covid coverage it's so funny it's just sad

Id say for the sake of the economy if he actually had a plan on beating the virus. No mask mandate or even recommendation.

Apparantly We're Rounding the turn even though we are at 80K cases a day

 

[Zenos7]

Dems knew it was going to be dangerous, obviously Trump didnt give a shit and now look where the US is. Made a false statement it was going away in February, He went further and said it would disappear in April. Also said it The dude literally complains about covid coverage it's so funny it's just sad

interesting but i dont get how this is a response to what i said?

 

[bennbeckman]

interesting but i dont get how this is a response to what i said?

I concede the fact that the Hoax was in response to Dems criticism of Trump's handling of Covid.

I responded to the "Sake of the economy" question by saying he has 0 plan on defeating covid. Economy will continue to spiral until he has a plan to beat the virus other than say We will have a vaccine soon

If he took the virus half serious US wouldnt be in such a mess and he'd prolly win presidency by a landslide, but he didnt and now he's playing defense

 

[Zenos7]

I concede the fact that the Hoax was in response to Dems criticism of Trump's handling of Covid.

I responded to the "Sake of the economy" question by saying he has 0 plan on defeating covid. Economy will continue to spiral until he has a plan to beat the virus other than say We will have a vaccine soon

If he took the virus half serious US wouldnt be in such a mess and he'd prolly win presidency by a landslide, but he didnt and now he's playing defense

ty for elaborating =D
his only plan seems to be betting everything on the vaccine, which is irresponsible af

 

[bennbeckman]

ty for elaborating =D
his only plan seems to be betting everything on the vaccine, which is irresponsible af

Agreed, that's why IMO his rhetoric is extremely dangerous. and that's been my main issue, also he refuses to collaborate and listen to any of the virologist as well, i.e Dr Fauci.

 

[Zenos7]

Agreed, that's why IMO his rhetoric is extremely dangerous. and that's been my main issue, also he refuses to collaborate and listen to any of the virologist as well, i.e Dr Fauci.

he was in line with fauci at first, dunno why he eventually turned on him lol.

 

[bennbeckman]

he was in line with fauci at first, dunno why he eventually turned on him lol.

Really good question, I think a lot of people are trying to figure that out lol

 

[Fallen Prince]

Confident on joes win . PA, Wisconsin possibly North Carolina is favoring biden.

 

[bennbeckman]

Confident on joes win . PA, Wisconsin possibly North Carolina is favoring biden.

WI, PA, and MI are Biden's best chances of getting 270, he has polled the highest there (Obviously dont blindly trust polls).

Az, IA, and NC are favoriing him as well, gonna be one long day Tuesday

 

[Just a member]

Shit too funny. He doesnt trust his wife lmao

LMAO, honestly I don't think even Leslie Nielsen would be able to be on par with him.

 

[kom5]

What is a Social System?

Every US state is opened up (Not on Full Lockdown) and has been since May and June. I disagree with you because Trump has no idea what he's talking about. First he called the virus a Dem Hoax, he wants to open it up for the sake of opening it up because he believes in "Herd Immunity". Everything regarding Trump and covid has been wrong.

Issue with US is half the people (mainly Trumpers) cares about social distancing and masks

Also States have more control of opening up businesses than gov't.

Social system is when you get jobless or your health gets worse the state is giving you support and takes responsibility for you something the usa doesnt really expand

its good that its open Trump makes jokes you take it too seriously he doesnt care about the virus he is responsible for a state just because a virus broke out doesnt mean he has to shut down the country for it

Economy=welfare if you shut your economy for a virus that isnt really dramatic then you make a grievous mistake especially the us economy is based on consume unlike other countries the us economy heavily depends on consuming 70% of the income is consuming and shutting it down would be have domino effect and destroy you from the inside like the 3rd grade COA haki

look at the virus there so many people who are asymptomatic and heal without realizing it so you want shut your economy down for a virus like that lol thats not one of Queen deadly plagues thats just a lil stinger from a poisonous bee

 

[Uncle Van]

The media and 2016 polls said Hillary was ahead by a landslide and was guaranteed to win, just like what they're doing with Biden. Fox News and non-American news outlets predicted otherwise. The latter was right.

It really comes off as them trying to discourage people from voting for Trump by making it seem like its futile.

 

[Just a member]

In Italy the news about the US election says Biden is ahead of 10-12 points according to the previsions yet they also point out that the last time Hilary too was seen as the winning horse and everybody knows how it ended. Even if in the end actually Clinton took 3M votes more than Trump in 2016 yet with the american system only the number of states matters.

 

[bennbeckman]

Social system is when you get jobless or your health gets worse the state is giving you support and takes responsibility for you something the usa doesnt really expand

its good that its open Trump makes jokes you take it too seriously he doesnt care about the virus he is responsible for a state just because a virus broke out doesnt mean he has to shut down the country for it

Economy=welfare if you shut your economy for a virus that isnt really dramatic then you make a grievous mistake especially the us economy is based on consume unlike other countries the us economy heavily depends on consuming 70% of the income is consuming and shutting it down would be have domino effect and destroy you from the inside like the 3rd grade COA haki

look at the virus there so many people who are asymptomatic and heal without realizing it so you want shut your economy down for a virus like that lol thats not one of Queen deadly plagues thats just a lil stinger from a poisonous bee

Trump doesnt expand, and hates paying unemployment, hence a second stimulus has not passed. That is what passing stimulus is supposed to be for, especially in this situation but that's not happening until November. US is in this issue because the gov't has failed to act.

No one ever recommened at this CURRENT point in time to shut down the economy, what has been recommneded are masks, social distancing, washing your hands etc. The president hasnt done anything hence making the situation worse, increasing hospitalizations, etc. Why a lot of businesses are currently working from home.

Please go to the hospitals of covid patients and tell them or tell the families of those who have past away. "Hey, the virus isnt really dramatic" "Look at the virus so many people who are aysmptomatic and heal without realizing it" Let me know how that goes
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The media and 2016 polls said Hillary was ahead by a landslide and was guaranteed to win, just like what they're doing with Biden. Fox News and non-American news outlets predicted otherwise. The latter was right.

It really comes off as them trying to discourage people from voting for Trump by making it seem like its futile.

Fox News main on air talent aren't even News LOL.
People dont vote for Trump because he lies and fails to deliver on his promises.

Also Fox News spreads the most blatant lies out of all the outlets.

They told their viewers Obama was born in Kenya
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In Italy the news about the US election says Biden is ahead of 10-12 points according to the previsions yet they also point out that the last time Hilary too was seen as the winning horse and everybody knows how it ended. Even if in the end actually Clinton took 3M votes more than Trump in 2016 yet with the american system only the number of states matters.

Electoral college is stupid, but that's what we have to live with. 6-8 states decide every US election

 

[Aesima]

Fox News main on air talent aren't even News LOL.
People dont vote for Trump because he lies and fails to deliver on his promises.

Also Fox News spreads the most blatant lies out of all the outlets.

They told their viewers Obama was born in Kenya

That's all news and journalists in general, and especially politicians, you still believed the politicians cared about your well being?
Stimulus checks are temporary fixes that didn't last long, Our country is broke so constantly issuing checks would just fuck us up even more, our leaders spend most of their time in a shit tossing contest on all ends, not just Trump.This is what happens when the public views politics as soap opera entertainment. Stop blaming trump for everything, this country is full of idiots, even with the heads up, we still would be in this predicament, perfect example is the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

 

[bennbeckman]

That's all news and journalists in general, and especially politicians, you still believed the politicians cared about your well being?
Stimulus checks are temporary fixes that didn't last long, Our country is broke so constantly issuing checks would just fuck us up even more, our leaders spend most of their time in a shit tossing contest on all ends, not just Trump.This is what happens when the public views politics as soap opera entertainment. Stop blaming trump for everything, this country is full of idiots, even with the heads up, we still would be in this predicament, perfect example is the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

No shit Sherlock our leaders are heavily influened by Dark Money, I already mentioned I was not that big a fan of Biden. That list is a lot longer, and that is a different discussion. You should have both reference Iraq War and Hurricane Katrina (Bush's response was terrible) that was the dumbest 2 trillion dollar mistake the USA ever made and then sub prime mortgage lending that cost USA trillions because the Obama administration decided to bail the dumb banks for being morons cost 700 Billion dollars

This conversation is about the presidential election. Not the last 20 years of politics

Why wouldnt normalized people who do research not blame Trump for this current mess that was apparantly supposed to go away in April. No one would be mad at Trump if he took this seriously, economy would be a lot better off, not as many businesses would be shut down.

Ironically if he took this virus seriously he'd be a shoe in for the next term.

Trump has no covid plan (saying herd immunity like beetle juice isnt a plan), no health care plan, no economic plan to reduce the debt or deficit.

People who are out of work need those stimulus checks to live, look out for their families, not get evicted, etc.

 

[Zenos7]

.This is what happens when the public views politics as soap opera entertainment

waaaiiit its not soap opera entertainment?!?!?!?!?

 

[Aesima]

No shit Sherlock our leaders are heavily influened by Dark Money, I already mentioned I was not that big a fan of Biden. That list is a lot longer, and that is a different discussion. You should have both reference Iraq War and Hurricane Katrina (Bush's response was terrible) that was the dumbest 2 trillion dollar mistake the USA ever made and then sub prime mortgage lending that cost USA trillions because the Obama administration decided to bail the dumb banks for being morons cost 700 Billion dollars

This conversation is about the presidential election. Not the last 20 years of politics

Why wouldnt normalized people who do research not blame Trump for this current mess that was apparantly supposed to go away in April. No one would be mad at Trump if he took this seriously, economy would be a lot better off, not as many businesses would be shut down.

Ironically if he took this virus seriously he'd be a shoe in for the next term.

Trump has no covid plan (saying herd immunity like beetle juice isnt a plan), no health care plan, no economic plan to reduce the debt or deficit.

People who are out of work need those stimulus checks to live, look out for their families, not get evicted, etc.

Dude you're acting like this could of been avoided, as I stated, this country is dumb as fuck, they couldn't even invoke disaster relief for those affected what makes you think they are competent enough to handle a pandemic? Trump, Biden, Harris, doesn't matter, this is the best you're gonna get, so yeah, that's about 20 years of political backstabbing and fuck ups, it's all starting to pay off in a way.

In all that, I still would rather have Trump for an extra 4 years instead of Biden whom is just a puppet for the person who's really gonna be running shit and that's Harris, another snake. No thanks.