Spoiler One Piece Chapter 997 Spoilers Discussion

[Igor_akainu_redog]

Still dont know who zoro Will fight for real, we have two options. Whos who and King.

Both calamitie lvl, king kaido strongest soldier and WsW a Guy that Can be even stronger than Jack or even Queen .

Than after this fight zoro Will still do a great damage on kaido or even have the final hint to kill him.

Who you think zoro fight Will be?

 

[Seth]

Still dont know who zoro Will fight for real, we have two options. Whos who and King.

Both calamitie lvl, king kaido strongest soldier and WsW a Guy that Can be even stronger than Jack or even Queen .

Than after this fight zoro Will still do a great damage on kaido or even have the final hint to kill him.

Who you think zoro fight Will be?

 

[Igor_akainu_redog]

What you think?

 

[bennbeckman]

I assume Fujitora's meteors > Kinemon's slash. There is a difference between a superficial wound on Kaido, and actually killing him. So not birdcage is not > Kaido.

If we're going to add fujitora he used haki and also was not able to cut birdcage. No idea why he's there. Your logic against him not defeating Doflamingo is he couldn't cut birdcage, so I retorted with Kinemon cut Kaido but not birdcage therefore Birdcage is stronger than any pirate in OP. and I brought up Kinemon because he was alongside Zoro using his haki against birdcage.

Or to use this logic because you brought up Zoro not being able to cut birdcage as a case for not being able to defeat Doffy, because Birdcage is Doffy's main weapon and no one could cut it therefore using that same logic Birdcage is > Kaido and Fujitora

 

[Kuruka]

U really think Zoro would’ve lost to Doffy lmao

It depends if zoro had something on the level of gear4 back then. which he didn’t show. So for you to assume zoro would have beaten doffy is the definition of headcannon.
during dress Rosa no one in the strawhats or law came close to gear 4. Luffy broke doffys strings while everyone else was struggling with birdcage

 

[Finalbeta]

At worst, we should get Redons summary in 3-4 hours

Redon is the best provider in circulation in my opinion

I'm sure his summary will be pretty on point. I usually don't find any difference with the original. ;P he is the most reliable source to me.

 

[sanjikun]

If we're going to add fujitora he used haki and also was not able to cut birdcage. No idea why he's there. Your logic against him not defeating Doflamingo is he couldn't cut birdcage, so I retorted with Kinemon cut Kaido but not birdcage therefore Birdcage is stronger than any pirate in OP. and I brought up Kinemon because he was alongside Zoro using his haki against birdcage.

Or to use this logic because you brought up Zoro not being able to cut birdcage as a case for not being able to defeat Doffy, because Birdcage is Doffy's main weapon and no one could cut it therefore using that same logic Birdcage is > Kaido and Fujitora

Mate, you gotta stop leaping off basic statements into asinine claims that no one ever made.

The birdcage is not a person. It's a move. It doesn't have "combat ability". You can compare it's durability to Kaido's skin, but that's as far as you can go. Unlike Barto's barrier, we've seen all of Doffy's strings CAN be broken, you just need to be strong enough (i.e. Luffy and Parasite). Zoro wasn't.

 

[Seth]

What you think?

It really depends on what Marco's role is in this arc.

It would be a letdown during that big of a royal rumble for Marco to just stall and stall big mom over and over again.

I would love admirals or Shanks to show and fight big mom ( they don't need to do it all on the mainland Shanks or Admirals can have sneaky entrance and encounter her and keep her at bay )

That would allow marco to maybe fight King I guess?

Then Zoro vs WsW or Queen.

My most wanted matchup is ofc Zoro vs King but this arc shapes up to some weird format with each chapter.

 

[nik87]

So let me get this straight, the guy who low diffed Sanji in his base form without using awakening, and was taken down by a tag team of Luffy + Law both landing their strongest attacks, would've lost to Zoro?

Let Zoro cut his birdcage first. Dude was occupied by a move that Doflamingo wasn't even paying attention to.

1. What does Sanji have to do with Zoro vs Doffy?
2. Birdcage is irrelevant to beating Doffy.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Still dont know who zoro Will fight for real, we have two options. Whos who and King.

Both calamitie lvl, king kaido strongest soldier and WsW a Guy that Can be even stronger than Jack or even Queen .

Than after this fight zoro Will still do a great damage on kaido or even have the final hint to kill him.

Who you think zoro fight Will be?

Why do you assume this is the order?

Can't zoro fight Kaido first then get into his !v1?

Think about it for a moment. Zoro has been complaining for lke 10 chapters about getting to Kaido. EVen if King himself shows up right now and declares he's the *th Strongest swordsman in the world who once fought Mihawk himself, Zoro won't care. He wants to help Kin'emon. Like Even if Zoro gets forced to fight someone else of any level of strength, he will be distracted the entire fight since he doesnt actually want to fight anyone now.

I don't think Oda would write a Zoro fight where Zoro cleaarly doesnt want to fight the person and is constantly complaining. Zoro enjoys fights. It would suck if his main 1v1 is like not even his priority.

The only way this is possible is if somehow Zoro gets convinced that he shouldnt go up there. And there doesn't seem to be anything around that can convince him of that given he just saw Kiku's arm fall.

So why not the other way round. Zoro gets up to Kaido. He teams up with Luffy and whoever else is there. The fight kaido long enough for the scabbards to Leave the battleground and then King arrives to interfere and Zoro decides to deal with him.

MAinly, Zoro has to stop worrying about what's happening on the roof. That's the main thing. He can't get into a fight in this state. So Zoro gets to the roof, cuts up Kaido and then King comes in to interfere and Zoro deals with him once he has seen the situation on the roof is under control and the scabbards are safe.

Does't that work better?

It even clears up the whole power scaling issue of how can Zoro fight kaidoo after an extreme diff with KIng? well he can't. Zoro goes in relatively fresh with Kaido and manages to cut him up and takes no damage since there are other people fighting with him who can distract Kaido. And then Zoro fights King without having taken much damage or used much energy agasint Kaido. Done.

It also makes sense that the last fight of each strawhat in the arc is their 1v1. It's weird for Zoro's last fight to be a team battle.

 

[Indigo]

Redon is the best provider in circulation in my opinion

I'm sure his summary will be pretty on point. I usually don't find any difference with the original. ;P he is the most reliable source to me.

Redon is the best :cheers:

 

[Blother Fertitta]

So let me get this straight, the guy who low diffed Sanji in his base form without using awakening, and was taken down by a tag team of Luffy + Law both landing their strongest attacks, would've lost to Zoro?

Let Zoro cut his birdcage first. Dude was occupied by a move that Doflamingo wasn't even paying attention to.

Doesn’t matter, Yonko lvl out of the Timeskip

 

[Porter Peak II 👑]

Zoro will beat Queen, king then kill Kaidou

 

[Blother Fertitta]

It depends if zoro had something on the level of gear4 back then. which he didn’t show. So for you to assume zoro would have beaten doffy is the definition of headcannon.
during dress Rosa no one in the strawhats or law came close to gear 4. Luffy broke doffys strings while everyone else was struggling with birdcage

He didn’t bust out anything yet he was able to scrap with Fuji

 

[bennbeckman]

Mate, you gotta stop leaping off basic statements into asinine claims that no one ever made.

The birdcage is not a person. It's a move. It doesn't have "combat ability". You can compare it's durability to Kaido's skin, but that's as far as you can go. Unlike Barto's barrier, we've seen all of Doffy's strings CAN be broken, you just need to be strong enough (i.e. Luffy and Parasite). Zoro wasn't.

Is Doffy's cage stronger than Kaido's skin? Yes or No

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

That would allow marco to maybe fight King I guess?

@Seth

Why would Oda go out of his way to draw a fight between people of the same rank? And people who aren't even main characters.

Saying Marco vs King is each of their last fights in the arc guarantees this will be Skipped. and having a commander beaten off screen will lead to the whole JAck vs Sulong Neko and Inu business again and EVen I this time will not like that

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Luffy broke doffys strings while everyone else was struggling with birdcage

@Kuruka
Abdula and Jeet and Kyros cut Doffy's strings.

You are under the assumption all the strings Doffy makes are the same strength

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Zoro taking down Queen King Big Mom Kaido Im sama :cheers:

 

[Porter Peak II 👑]

So let me get this straight, the guy who low diffed Sanji in his base form without using awakening, and was taken down by a tag team of Luffy + Law both landing their strongest attacks, would've lost to FUJITORA ?

Let FUJITORA CUT his birdcage first. Dude was occupied by a move that Doflamingo wasn't even paying attention to.

Fujitora is weaker than fodder doffy. Can't even cut the birdcage. Buggy logic:cheers:

 

[Seth]

@Seth

Why would Oda go out of his way to draw a fight between people of the same rank? And people who aren't even main characters.

Saying Marco vs King is each of their last fights in the arc guarantees this will be Skipped. and having a commander beaten off screen will lead to the whole JAck vs Sulong Neko and Inu business again and EVen I this time will not like that

As I said at the end. my main go-to is King vs Zoro.

just tried to look at it from a different perspective.

I saw someone's comment about Zoro vs King in Ringo.

That sounds fun.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

It depends if zoro had something on the level of gear4 back then. which he didn’t show. So for you to assume zoro would have beaten doffy is the definition of headcannon.
during dress Rosa no one in the strawhats or law came close to gear 4. Luffy broke doffys strings while everyone else was struggling with birdcage

I’m fucking with u bro, Zoro couldn’t take out Doffy