Spoiler One Piece Chapter 997 Spoilers Discussion

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HA001

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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Charlotte Horchata said:
Oda also went out of his way to say that all kind of weapons broke trying to pierce through him yet you simply need an ability that has been spammed throughout Wano and has been shown by quite a good amount of characters.



It depends on the context in which Zoro opens the scar, what attack he uses or to what extent he'd only need to excel in attack power, for example, but I'd put him around YC1+ by the end of Wano (using concepts popular among here, although I'm not the biggest fan of them).



I don't know how strong you think Zoro is. Personally I have him around YC1 right now (or a bit under that with progress during his fight) because I think he will face and defeat King as his main versus this arc.

Sanji defeated Arlong's number 2 after being beaten up underwater because he tried to save Luffy, was defeated by Kalifa before taking Jabra down, had to protect Nami while facing Absalom..., for example (not trying to raise a ZvsS debate here). I highly doubt there's such thing as "Oda nerfing Zoro pre-timeskip because he's too strong" as "Oda doing what he likes to do in order to enrich the events", to be honest.



"Pirate King level" is clearly above anything we'd put in the top tier, not really that vague. The moment Oda drew Roger and Whitebeard clashing without even touching should have been the final nail in the coffin.

I believe Zoro and Sanji will be top tiers by end of series minimum and I don't really need Mihawk's level to establish so, only Luffy's.
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So how can you say that about zoro when he will in your own opinion match oden surpass 3 commander level guys and kinemon combined yet still be far behind luffy ? Your own logic isnt adding up.
 
Kuruka

Kuruka

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#5,183
Gauntlet said:
Asura is definitely a G4 equivalent, and even if we're not including that he still shown to defeat SN captains when he's not feeling like playing around. Zoro oneshot a dude that tanked Killer's sneak attack really well. Not to mention Shi Shishi Sonson is likely faster than Luffy's G2 considering Luffy's G2 attack got blocked by Pre-Drugged Hyouzou. Zoro hasn't nearly gone all out at all and he's making quick work of his peers.
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Why when I ask for evidence you reply with more headcannon. Ashura hasn’t been shown to be g4 equivilant you just made that up
zoro hasn’t beaten a single supernova captain in a fair 1v1
*he got fucked up by Hawkins nails While Hawkins remained unharmed..didn’t win
* killer Isn’t a captain and it wasn’t a fair fight for either of them.
* apoo doesn’t count because X drake was actively helping him fight. 2v1 against apoo isn’t exactly a W for zoro.
 
Igor_akainu_redog

Igor_akainu_redog

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#5,185
ImmaIvanoM said:
No Zoro will tell Marco to fight Queen.

Marco is right there. WHy would he not do anything?

So you mean Zoro after an Extreme diff fight is still >>>>>>>> ALl the scabbards combined when four of the scabbards are around Commander level?

And Extremely tired Zoro is above four commander level people?

And its funny how you say "A character wants something but Oda doesn't just give them what they want" but when Who's who says he wants to fight a commander you immeditely say WHo's WHo is likely commander level. Because ODa just made him commander level just because he said he wanted it.

See how your own argument works here
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What?? Im suposing whos who is calamitie lvl, i even Said thats why i think zoro Will fight him, never put It as a fact. And you suposing that zoro Will be at the roof, i Said that Its not about what they want and It is NOT, so thats why im GUESSING for whos who i think Will be true and for zoro be on the roof now, not. What you didint understand?

And yes, zoro after being in his extreme as ALWAYS is capable of amazing things, and in his extreme fight he can learn more How to use Emma, and after seeing kaido doing shits he can blow an atack lvl oden that YES nome of the scabbards were capable.
 
nik87

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
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#5,188
Topi Jerami said:
@nik87 Cut the crap. Shiliew is only wanked just because he is Blackbeard's subordinate, which is supposed to be EoS antagonists.

Remove that status from him, and what else do you get?
Former prison officer, who already jailed by the new ones, and escaped thanks to a riot. Ate Invisible DF, technique shared among losers like Absalom and Judge's son.


King? The warrior last from his race, that has advanced CoA, Wildfire technique and eats ancient zoan DF. Feat? Stopped Big Mom and half of her crew invasion alone, in mere minutes if not seconds, and accomplished the task without single injury.

Of course King looks more impressive.
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Topi-chin, you know I wouldnt place anyone high if there was no reason for it...
I dont rate him high because of Blackbeard, I think he can take out Blackbeard just like the 99.9% of OP characters.
The secret sauce of Shiryu is the lethality of the swordsman paired with invisibility. Pretty broken combo, no?

I think there is more to Clear Clear no Mi, it cant be that same what Absalom achieved with it or the same as Son of Judge has...
Clearing the visuals, clearing other things could be possible too, aura for example, undetectable for CoO...
King is strong and I would definitely favor him if Shiryu wouldnt have the invisibility. Also, depends on King's application of fire.

If King can spread fire around himself, then the invisibility wouldnt do Shiryu much good, he would be detectable because of flames and he probably wouldnt be able to stand in them anyway. Overall depends on King's abilities if he has ways of detecting the invisible guy.
He detected Son of Judge, who knows, maybe he detects Shiryu as well. :catpole:
 
Blother Fertitta

Blother Fertitta

Gratitude
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Kuruka said:
Why when I ask for evidence you reply with more headcannon. Ashura hasn’t been shown to be g4 equivilant you just made that up
zoro hasn’t beaten a single supernova captain in a fair 1v1
*he got fucked up by Hawkins nails While Hawkins remained unharmed..didn’t win
* killer Isn’t a captain and it wasn’t a fair fight for either of them.
* apoo doesn’t count because X drake was actively helping him fight. 2v1 against apoo isn’t exactly a W for zoro.
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So nobody counts? Lol
 
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duckman

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#5,193
Gauntlet said:
The best speed feat he has is against Oven and even then he sneaked Oven when he wasn't looking. I personally don't have Sanji that much higher in terms of speed than Zoro. Unlike Zoro's CoA and strength, Sanji don't have those feats under his belt that I can latch on with certainty that Zoro can't keep up with.
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Oven not looking isn't a factor. The focus of the scene was Sanji's sheer speed and people bringing up reasons to diminish it are annoying.

I mean Sanji dodged a blow from Katakuri when he wasn't looking and y'all won't give him credit for that either.
 
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