Future Events The Great Debate - Will Zoro kill Kaido this arc?
The one thing I don't get about ZKK
couldn't all the evidence you guys have for Zoro supposedly killing kaido rather just be evidence for Zoro fighting kaido?
What evidence exists that points to Zoro specifically killing kaido over him merely fighting kaido?
The best you can come up with is his parallels to Oden and Ryuma. But Luffy parallels to Roger and Garp, who beat the 1st iteration of the Rocks pirates at God Valley.
The Big Mom kaido alliance is portrayed by the marines to be the revival of the rocks pirates. I would say that this here is a much more direct parallel. Also, there's the simple fact that Luffy is the MC and his training this arc was specifically to beat kaido, whom he had already lost to.
couldn't all the evidence you guys have for Zoro supposedly killing kaido rather just be evidence for Zoro fighting kaido?
What evidence exists that points to Zoro specifically killing kaido over him merely fighting kaido?
The best you can come up with is his parallels to Oden and Ryuma. But Luffy parallels to Roger and Garp, who beat the 1st iteration of the Rocks pirates at God Valley.
The Big Mom kaido alliance is portrayed by the marines to be the revival of the rocks pirates. I would say that this here is a much more direct parallel. Also, there's the simple fact that Luffy is the MC and his training this arc was specifically to beat kaido, whom he had already lost to.
Ultimately, I think Zoro will simply open up kaido's wound. He will go all out against kaido and show he can stand up to the power of a yonko.
However, I don't think Zoro will kill kaido. My reason for this is I feel like nobody will kill kaido.
Kaido wants his death to be something magnificent like Roger or whitebeard's. However, Kaido isn't nearly as honorable as those two. Rather he is a horrible person. I think Kaido will die a bad death.
He won't be heroically killed off by one of the main characters. Rather I think he will have a miserable death.
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If you reread reverie and the chapters between act 2 and act 3, the Kaido big mom alliance has been referred to as the revival of the rocks pirates several times.
Kaido's entire crew is a parallel to Rock's. They all hate each other and they all want to kill each other, they are only really held in line by Kaido, who's individual strength is what carries the entire crew.
However, I don't think Zoro will kill kaido. My reason for this is I feel like nobody will kill kaido.
Kaido wants his death to be something magnificent like Roger or whitebeard's. However, Kaido isn't nearly as honorable as those two. Rather he is a horrible person. I think Kaido will die a bad death.
He won't be heroically killed off by one of the main characters. Rather I think he will have a miserable death.
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If you reread reverie and the chapters between act 2 and act 3, the Kaido big mom alliance has been referred to as the revival of the rocks pirates several times.
Kaido's entire crew is a parallel to Rock's. They all hate each other and they all want to kill each other, they are only really held in line by Kaido, who's individual strength is what carries the entire crew.
Fighting Kaido is nothing to get worked up about except for those who are adamant about Zoro not fighting him.
There is plenty of evidence for killing Kaido.
In God Valley the future PK teamed up with the guy who is legendary for hunting pirates.
In Wano, future PK is teaming up with the guy whose nickname is Pirate Hunter.
Luffy will get his 5 minutes with Kaido but ultimately Kaido can regenerate all that Luffy can do to him.
Luffy will have to settle down with defeating Big Mom while Zoro kills Kaido.
The main reason for killing Kaido is the effectiveness of dealing with him.
Defeat him and 5 minutes later he is up while you are broken...
There is no recovery for missing head.
There is plenty of evidence for killing Kaido.
In God Valley the future PK teamed up with the guy who is legendary for hunting pirates.
In Wano, future PK is teaming up with the guy whose nickname is Pirate Hunter.
Luffy will get his 5 minutes with Kaido but ultimately Kaido can regenerate all that Luffy can do to him.
Luffy will have to settle down with defeating Big Mom while Zoro kills Kaido.
The main reason for killing Kaido is the effectiveness of dealing with him.
Defeat him and 5 minutes later he is up while you are broken...
There is no recovery for missing head.
this is a nonsensical parallel
you are comparing Garp to Zoro. If anything, Luffy parallels both Roger and Garp.
Big Mom is a side antagonist this arc. Everyone is focused on Kaido, the only one who even cares about big mom is marco, who's powers coincidentally counter the soru soru no mi.
Also, your statement about Luffy is false. Kaido can't regenerate all Luffy can do to him. Luffy is now a user of penetration CoA, meaning he can target Kaido's innards directly. How does he regenerate from that?
but like I said, I think the bigger issue with ZKK is it implies that Kaido gets a glorious death, which I doubt he will. Kaido's death will be akin to what happened to Yoshikage Kira in Jojo part 4
you are comparing Garp to Zoro. If anything, Luffy parallels both Roger and Garp.
Big Mom is a side antagonist this arc. Everyone is focused on Kaido, the only one who even cares about big mom is marco, who's powers coincidentally counter the soru soru no mi.
Also, your statement about Luffy is false. Kaido can't regenerate all Luffy can do to him. Luffy is now a user of penetration CoA, meaning he can target Kaido's innards directly. How does he regenerate from that?
but like I said, I think the bigger issue with ZKK is it implies that Kaido gets a glorious death, which I doubt he will. Kaido's death will be akin to what happened to Yoshikage Kira in Jojo part 4
For Zoro killing Kaido case, I think I will wait for this one just for a bit.
Garp the pirate hunter and Zoro the pirate hunter.
Big Mom was side antagonist in WCI, she is sharing the spotlight with Kaido in Wano.
Whether they care about her or not, she just arrived on top of the dome so she has to be dealt with as well.
He can regenerate it because Luffy's attacks are nowhere close to effective as you think.
If you think he will erase his insides like he erased the tree, I dont know what to tell you...
There is nothing wrong with Kaido getting a glorious death...
Big Mom was side antagonist in WCI, she is sharing the spotlight with Kaido in Wano.
Whether they care about her or not, she just arrived on top of the dome so she has to be dealt with as well.
He can regenerate it because Luffy's attacks are nowhere close to effective as you think.
If you think he will erase his insides like he erased the tree, I dont know what to tell you...
There is nothing wrong with Kaido getting a glorious death...
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It’s pretty unbelievable to see how some people are still in denial that Zoro will play an important role vs Kaido after some pretty explicit statements to go on top of everything that’s been pointing towards that direction for a while now. I mean the man literally spells it out for yall lmao. I don’t know what more is needed before it actually happens.
This holds zero weight at this point. Oda had relative fodder like Kiku dancing on Kaido and stabbing him cleanly through numerous times, you think being another “YC level guy” matters as it pertains to Zoro cutting Kaido?
And lumping Zoro with the Scabbards is laughable as well. What matters most against Kaido is being able to damage him with your haki. None of the Scabbards dared to tame Enma and it’s been made pretty clear that Zoro not only posses superior haki but he’s also packing hella more AP, some of which he hasn’t he even been forced to showcase. The Scabbards who have inferior haki and power were able to cut up Kaido pretty good. Zoro > The Scabbards, do the math it’s not that difficult.
So you can call Zoro a “YC level guy” all you want but the foundations for him significantly damaging Kaido have already been set. To say that Zoro will play no role just because yo headcanon have him at “YC level” when lesser characters in power played a role is absolute nonsense.
This holds zero weight at this point. Oda had relative fodder like Kiku dancing on Kaido and stabbing him cleanly through numerous times, you think being another “YC level guy” matters as it pertains to Zoro cutting Kaido?
And lumping Zoro with the Scabbards is laughable as well. What matters most against Kaido is being able to damage him with your haki. None of the Scabbards dared to tame Enma and it’s been made pretty clear that Zoro not only posses superior haki but he’s also packing hella more AP, some of which he hasn’t he even been forced to showcase. The Scabbards who have inferior haki and power were able to cut up Kaido pretty good. Zoro > The Scabbards, do the math it’s not that difficult.
So you can call Zoro a “YC level guy” all you want but the foundations for him significantly damaging Kaido have already been set. To say that Zoro will play no role just because yo headcanon have him at “YC level” when lesser characters in power played a role is absolute nonsense.