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Zoro got Coc?

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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#83
That was my bad but still I don't think Zoro will end up having a better CoC and CoO than Luffy...Imagine the future pirate king's first mate having all three haki type better than him... I will honestly question Oda's sanity.
The way I see it...Zoro = CoA Specialist, Sanji = CoO Specialist and Luffy = CoC specialist
The specialist line are just affinities towards Haki colors for the 3 characters, not related to each other in any way.
Fighting invisible swordsman who likely can hide his aura as well, sounds like best CoO feat in the world is needed...
CoC only depends on the growth of the character and Zoro will probably be the strongest.

That's the issue, Zoro is not the first mate, he is only tagging along to help Luffy become PK.
I am sure he will leave the crew once he saw Luffy's goal to its end.

I wonder whether Zoro would even know he had CoC if he did.
Isnt his reply to Brook a confirmation that he knows?
 
#84
Every Luffy's CoC scene pretimeskip involved people surprised by it but Luffy being completely unaware of it, let alone caring. And it didn't take away any power from them.

Also, as you said that's how you read Zoro reaction, so that's pretty much it. I think it would be a nice scene not only for Zoro but for people witnessing it and its impact in how he's perceived throughout the world.



"CoC haki isn't special anymore" > Only fifteen confirmed users among almost a thousand named guys, consistently referred as something that catches other characters's attention, it was the core of Chinjao's speech about surpassing Roger.

I think you're quite biased here.
I think your more Biased than I am. Thinking Zoro's CoC awakening needs to be something completely on a different scale or needs to have this grand moment, unlike any one elses. Big Mom, Kaido, and Whitebeard Three of the most powerful pirates used CoC without much Fanfare. Why is Zoro that Special?
Having CoC is Special, but at this point, just having it isn't enough. its only to knock out Fodder, but anyone remotely strong it's useless against.
What is your "Perfect" idea on What the "Awakening of Zoro's CoC, doing?
 
#86
I already said in another thread =>
Mark my words, Zoro has Conqueror's haki
In fact, Oda should have shown it earlier. But Oda is a troll, he loves to tease the fans with Zoro's vice captain position, CoC, eye, Mihawk's training etc. Oda knows Zoro is probably the most popular character of the series, and those teasers have been keeping a big part of fandom invested in the series for so long.
 
#87
I think your more Biased than I am. Thinking Zoro's CoC awakening needs to be something completely on a different scale or needs to have this grand moment, unlike any one elses. Big Mom, Kaido, and Whitebeard Three of the most powerful pirates used CoC without much Fanfare. Why is Zoro that Special?
Having CoC is Special, but at this point, just having it isn't enough. its only to knock out Fodder, but anyone remotely strong it's useless against.
What is your "Perfect" idea on What the "Awakening of Zoro's CoC, doing?
Are you comparing well established emperors of the sea to the experience of awakening CoC by one of the main characters? I assume you see the significant difference there and why Zoro is more special than them in this regard.

I'm not talking about needing a grand moment, a different scale, or that it needs to do something rare. I'm talking about the narrative value of color of conqueror, which is undeniable, and building a scene in which we see Zoro awakening it instead of the lame resolution of "yeah, so he had it all along but didn't feel like using it in any situation for ten years so far". It's about working with your characters and the tools you have to build attractive storytelling.
 
#88
One of the biggest damn teases. Oda is killing me this arc as a Zoro fan.

would he know even if he did? Luffy was using CoC unconsciously before he knew he had it.
Because he didn't know about Haki period. Once someone knows and is awakened it's pretty hard to not know. Mihawk probably wouldn't make much for a teacher, but then you also have users like Dofy and Linlin who didn't have a real mentor of which we know.
 
#89
Katakuri and Chinjao don't look like conquerors to me...Zoro and Sanji are definitely getting it...
Yh both are in Luffy's plotline.

Roger - Luffy's inspiration
Shanks - Luffy's Mentor
Hancock - Luffy's girlfriend
Katakuri - Luffy's fight
Doffy - Luffy's enemy
Big Mom - Luffy's enemy
Kidd - Luffy's rival
Ace - Luffy's brother

These are all to hype up Luffy. CoC is for Luffy alone.


If a SH were to get it....it wont be a "Luffy's special thing" since the SHs are major characters in this series. Major than anyone other Luffy.
 
#90
Are you comparing well established emperors of the sea to the experience of awakening CoC by one of the main characters? I assume you see the significant difference there and why Zoro is more special than them in this regard.

I'm not talking about needing a grand moment, a different scale, or that it needs to do something rare. I'm talking about the narrative value of color of conqueror, which is undeniable, and building a scene in which we see Zoro awakening it instead of the lame resolution of "yeah, so he had it all along but didn't feel like using it in any situation for ten years so far". It's about working with your characters and the tools you have to build attractive storytelling.
I would want that too, I just don't think were going to get it, I think the ""yeah, so he had it all along but didn't feel like using it in any situation for ten years so far" is actually going to be pretty close to what we get. Knocking out a group of Fodder to save some citizens or something along those lines is going to be it with the conformation that he has it with an epic final page.
 

Shisui

3 Palestine
#93
The specialist line are just affinities towards Haki colors for the 3 characters, not related to each other in any way.
Fighting invisible swordsman who likely can hide his aura as well, sounds like best CoO feat in the world is needed...
CoC only depends on the growth of the character and Zoro will probably be the strongest.

That's the issue, Zoro is not the first mate, he is only tagging along to help Luffy become PK.
I am sure he will leave the crew once he saw Luffy's goal to its end.
If he can hide his aura and turn invisible, how the hell is anyone suppose to beat him?...If Zoro does manage to pull it off, he automatically becomes the best CoO user but until then my money is on Sanji ending up as the best CoO user.

He might not be the first mate officially, but he fits and act like one...He was the first to join, undoubtly the most loyal to Luffy, bodychecks the rest and enforces the fact that Luffy is the captain
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Yh both are in Luffy's plotline.

Roger - Luffy's inspiration
Shanks - Luffy's Mentor
Hancock - Luffy's girlfriend
Katakuri - Luffy's fight
Doffy - Luffy's enemy
Big Mom - Luffy's enemy
Kidd - Luffy's rival
Ace - Luffy's brother

These are all to hype up Luffy. CoC is for Luffy alone.


If a SH were to get it....it wont be a "Luffy's special thing" since the SHs are major characters in this series. Major than anyone other Luffy.
Zoro and Sanji have more plot relevance than everyone you listed and easily make a better case of why they should have it than Hancock and Kidd...??? Tbh I personally find the ability useless but if Oda is out here dishing to everyone and their nan..You might aswell give it the future WSS and WSChef not that they need it
 
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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#94
If he can hide his aura and turn invisible, how the hell is anyone suppose to beat him?...If Zoro does manage to pull it off, he automatically becomes the best CoO user but until then my money is on Sanji ending up as the best CoO user.

He might not be the first mate officially, but he fits and act like one...He was the first to join, undoubtly the most loyal to Luffy, bodychecks the rest and enforces the fact that Luffy is the captain
Nobody can beat him except the only character who ever has shown the ability to detect him - hearing the breath of things.
He could mask his aura but Zoro will still hear the breath/heartbeat of either him or the steel of his sword.
It's not automatically making Zoro into best CoO user but certainly makes him a candidate.

One thing is certain, nobody else would be able to beat Shiryu in such case because other branches of CoO dont help in this case.
Being the best in one branch of CoO doesnt make you the best CoO user overall, it's hard to tell who is the best.
Sanji may have another separated branch of CoO in which he will be good but it's not FS or breath of things.

Yes, he fits and acts as one but Oda never wants to pin Zoro down and make him into a clear second because it is unfitting.
Zoro has his own values for what a captain represents and as long as Luffy is fulfilling those, he doesn't intervene in those matters.
Only when Luffy steps out of the line, Zoro corrects him. Ultimately, Zoro is in the crew because he gave his word because Luffy saved him. He has long repaid the debt but he still intends to honor the promise. We will see what happens after Luffy has become PK.
 

Shisui

3 Palestine
#95
Nobody can beat him except the only character who ever has shown the ability to detect him - hearing the breath of things.
He could mask his aura but Zoro will still hear the breath/heartbeat of either him or the steel of his sword.
It's not automatically making Zoro into best CoO user but certainly makes him a candidate.

One thing is certain, nobody else would be able to beat Shiryu in such case because other branches of CoO dont help in this case.
Being the best in one branch of CoO doesnt make you the best CoO user overall, it's hard to tell who is the best.
Sanji may have another separated branch of CoO in which he will be good but it's not FS or breath of things.

Yes, he fits and acts as one but Oda never wants to pin Zoro down and make him into a clear second because it is unfitting.
Zoro has his own values for what a captain represents and as long as Luffy is fulfilling those, he doesn't intervene in those matters.
Only when Luffy steps out of the line, Zoro corrects him. Ultimately, Zoro is in the crew because he gave his word because Luffy saved him. He has long repaid the debt but he still intends to honor the promise. We will see what happens after Luffy has become PK.
Well said... I totally forgot about Zoro having the boat ability....This is starting to feel like an easy win for Zoro. I initially thought Shiryu was going to get Jozu's fruit and make the fight a little tougher where Zoro will finally cut through diamond even though he said they was no point in cutting diamond.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#96
Well said... I totally forgot about Zoro having the boat ability....This is starting to feel like an easy win for Zoro. I initially thought Shiryu was going to get Jozu's fruit and make the fight a little tougher where Zoro will finally cut through diamond even though he said they was no point in cutting diamond.
Even so, Oda will make it far from easy since that will be one of the most important fights for Zoro.
Just because Zoro could have ended Kaku right from the start with Asura, doesnt mean it will be done.
Oda's job is to make the fights interesting and finishing it fast isnt getting the job done.
 
#98
What's funny is Zoro seemeed so sure he didn't use CoC ("obviously not me"). Of course it was just Kaido lifting the island but when CoC users awake this power, they're not even supposed to notice they're using it, we saw that with Luffy, Ace and Doflamingo. How did Zoro know it wasn't him using it unconsciously ? :zorothink:

Of course it proves absolutely nothing and I still believe Zoro has yet to awake CoC (but will do it later in this arc), however I wouldn't be very surprised if he already had it.
 
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