Chapter Discussion Stephen Paul on "slay/kill"

[spawn]

This is how the Twitter thread starts if you want the entire context:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1333085097747230723

Note: You can ignore the very first tweet because it's from some raging Zoro fan.

These are the main relevant tweets:

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So I think people should complain a lot less with Stephen Paul with this chapter given how he maintains Oda's choice of words in regards to killing.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Another shitstorm incoming

Let's go

 

[stairs-kun]

ZKK

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

I'm so confused right nowDoes Zoro say that he want to kill Kaido or nah?

 

[sanjikun]

"Can't wait for the OFFICIAL TRANSLATION"

*VIZ comes out*

"Fuck the translator! He's not making Zoro sound great!"

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Didn't sandman said that Zoro said slay

Which translation is right ?

Not that it matters

 

[sanjikun]

Didn't sandman said that Zoro said slay

Which translation is right ?

Not that it matters

If you remember, Oda stopped talking about "killing" after his grandmother passed away. This is likely what it's refering to.

So now he uses "slay" instead. Maybe it should be ZSK now.

 

[stairs-kun]

Stephen Paul says his translation is meant to allude to death.

 

[sanjikun]

Stephen Paul says his translation is meant to allude to death.

No he doesn't. He literally states if Oda wanted to talk about straight up murder he would phrase it differently.

You guys are so full shit. Literally trying to twist words anyone can read.

 

[Oblivion]

No he doesn't. He literally states if Oda wanted to talk about straight up murder he would phrase it differently.

You guys are so full shit. Literally trying to twist words anyone can read.

Do you Chrono and monsterzoro have meetings on your sanji agenda so your on the same page?

 

[sanjikun]

And there we go. What I said all along. The STRAW HATS don't kill people anymore. Only bad guys do.

I didn't even know he put this in the SBS tbh. I just remember he stopped saying "kill" because his grandmother passed away.

 

[Oblivion]

And there we go. What I said all along. The STRAW HATS don't kill people anymore. Only bad guys do.

I didn't even know he put this in the SBS tbh. I just remember he stopped saying "kill" because his grandmother passed away.

It just says they don’t say kill

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[sanjikun]

It just says they don’t say kill

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https://i.ibb.co/2MZ9r1Z/image-2020-11-29-151018.png

Dude Oda doesn't even want Straw Hats SAYING "kill" (because it's "bad"), let alone doing it which is 100x worse.

Like what manga are some reading that Zoro is going to decapitate Kaido? What the actual fuck?

 

[Oblivion]

Do you Chrono and monsterzoro have meetings on your sanji agenda so your on the same page?

Are you not gonna answer this?

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Dude Oda doesn't even want Straw Hats SAYING "kill" (because it's "bad"), let alone doing it which is 100x worse.

Like what manga are some reading that Zoro is going to decapitate Kaido? What the actual fuck?

I mean Oda alluded to Zoro killing mr 7

 

[rerere]

So what's the verdict?

 

[bennbeckman]

It's a one off

On one hand, Apoo seemed like he was annoyed with Drake not afraid of him

On the other Viz uses Slice him into pieces... im guessing that concedes to the people who used the word Cut, which im fine with as well

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So what's the verdict?

Im going with Cut when referring to Slicing him into pieces which to me remake of Oden scarring Kaido Sceneeeeee IMO

 

[spawn]

I'm so confused right nowDoes Zoro say that he want to kill Kaido or nah?

From my understanding (keep in mind I'm not Japanese), what Zoro expresses is something fatal. This is why Stephen explains it as such and why Sandman translates it as "slay".
However, Oda doesn't want straw hats to outright say "kill". So he will get as close as he can get to conveying the meaning of kill while saying something such as "slice him into pieces".

 

[DarkWitch]

Lol at those raging twitter users acting like they know more than Stephen, they probably think they know Japanese just because they watched some anime or hentai.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

From my understanding (keep in mind I'm not Japanese), what Zoro expresses is something fatal. This is why Stephen explains it as such and why Sandman translates it as "slay".
However, Oda doesn't want straw hats to outright say "kill". So he will get as close as he can get to conveying the meaning of kill while saying something such as "slice him into pieces".

Aye. Thanks for sharing ^^

 

[Chrono]

So Zoro fans were happy with Stephen Paul 3/4 chapters ago. And now they all hate him lmao....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1333137273169186816

Zoro didnt say kill....period