Character Discussion Does Zoro's progress make sense?

[vikas]

if zoro beats kaidou, he already surpassed mihawk without facing him, since kaidou was called the strongest pirate

Not if Zoro already defeated Mihawk and is already the WSS.
Waiting for zoro scar back story which shows us that fact.:cheers:

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Can you even read ?
We already know the technique to hurt kaido
Its ryou
Its what the scabbards used
Its what oden used
The difference is oden was stronger
Which will be the same for zoro when he rips kaido open

There's levels of strength to the Ryou itself. It's a Haki technique, better mastery and superior CoA will lead to better results.

Also for Zoro's feat, it will be interesting to see if he manages to give Kaido a new scar, or he opens up the scar made by Oden.

Because Kaido belittles the Scabbards saying "you could not even open up my only scar". Implying that it would be easier to open up that scar than to create a new one.

 

[Finalbeta]

Lion's Song is a skill made to cut what he can not just with raw power though.

That's likely going to be the secret, combining some form of advanced CoA with Lion Song for a technique that allows him to cut Kaido.

I'm surprised Zoro fans don't know that even pre ts there was a difference between a technique Zoro uses for something that's difficult to cut through, and a technique Zoro uses to deliver most power output.

Same with Zoro vs Scabbards. The difference will be made by his skill with the blade and Haki mastery, not simply "MORE POWAH"

Zoro never relied on trickeries, that is Law at best. He has no hax, he is a pure fighter. Even Asura is technically a power mode that legit augments his power level.

He is a plain fighter and his techniques revolve on brute force, not skill.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Zoro never relied on trickeries, that is Law at best. He has no hax, he is a pure fighter. Even Asura is technically a power mode that legit augments his power level.

He is a plain fighter and his techniques revolve on brute force, not skill.

You should do some research on what Lion Song is. It's a skill that allows one to choose to cut or not cut it's target. Like he can aim his blade and move through a piece of paper without cutting it, but cut steel with that same blade and motion.

 

[Finalbeta]

You should do some research in what Lion Song is. It's a skill that allows one to choose to cut or not cut it's target. Like he can aim his blade and move through a piece of paper without cutting it, but cut steel with that same blade and motion.

He can't cut someone if this someone has a better haki than Zoro, Shishi Sonson or not, like any other Zoro move. Shishi Sonson is not a finess technique, it's still based off brute force for all we can say.

 

[Valtiel]

We are getting better, in the start wano zoro was vet level and now he is already Yc level.

according to some people maybe... since dressrosa, i've always seen him as YC level character like law.

When zoro is goint to destroy laido he will be 2nd swordman in the world.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

He can't cut someone if this someone has a better haki than Zoro, Shishi Sonson or not, like any other Zoro move. Shishi Sonson is not a finess technique, it's still based off brute force for all we can say.

It's definitely not based on brute force. He has different three sword techniques that are based on that and deliver way more power output, while being unable to cut something that he can cut with Lions Song.

 

[WoronoaWoro]

Don t ever compare trash like katakuri with zoro
EoW Zoro shits on katakuri

current Zoro shits on katakuri

 

[Finalbeta]

It's definitely not based on brute force. He has different three sword techniques that are based on that and deliver way more power output, while being unable to cut something that he can cut with Lions Song.

I can see that point of yours but I'm implying that Zoro gets no special benefit from it on a regular basis.

Just like with any other move, if the opponent has got a better CoA haki, Zoro's strike can't do anything.

 

[bennbeckman]

Yeah...if Zoro isn’t gonna kill Kaido, there is a subzero percent chance that Sanji’s gonna do anything substantial, and this assumes that someone smarter/less horny comes by and frees him from Black Maria’s obvious trap

Jew D Savage

 

[Kuro Ashi]

I can see that point of yours but I'm implying that Zoro gets no special benefit from it on a regular basis.

Just like with any other move, if the opponent has got a better CoA haki, Zoro's strike can't do anything.

It's unclear exactly how CoA interacts with it, but it remains Zoro's best choice when attempting to cut something that he otherwise could not.

That's why i expect him to incorporate something from his Lion Song when he manages to cut Kaido, instead of just doing his attack with most power output.

It's going to be his skill with the blade and CoA mastery that is the difference maker.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Anyone has a good Ryu can injure Kaido but Scabbards lacked the power to open it so even with the barrier Haki u need Power .

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Anyone has a good Ryu can injure Kaido but Scabbards lacked the power to open it so even with the barrier Haki u need Power .

Zoro did not have the power to cut Mr 1.

But he could when using Lion Song.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Zoro did not have the power to cut Mr 1.

But he could when using Lion Song.

He cut with power what the fk are u talking about ? If he could cut him casually like when he cut a blade he wouldn't use a named attack

 

[bennbeckman]

Someone order extra copium for JackTeo

Gotta enjoy the Salty headcanon

 

[Seth]

they don't get a free pass, they didn't slay kaidou, and still have decades of swordmanship training under their belt. the narrative also set up zoro vs orochi, zoro rounding up the samurai of wano, look how that went.

Sanji not depending on Germa technology. Look how that went

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

You should do some research on what Lion Song is. It's a skill that allows one to choose to cut or not cut it's target. Like he can aim his blade and move through a piece of paper without cutting it, but cut steel with that same blade and motion.

This worked before Oda's cheap retconning of the breath fo things, so don't try to find any logic in this mess called haki.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

He cut with power what the fk are u talking about ? If he could cut him casually like when he cut a blade he wouldn't use a named attack

Lions Song is a one sword move. If he could have simply used more power to get the job done, he could have done it with the three sword move he attempted to take Mihawk down.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Lions Song is a one sword move. If he could have simply used more power to get the job done, he could have done it with the three sword move he attempted to take Mihawk down.

Lmao he couldn't cut steel but after he learned that he used only one sword and he did cut steel with santoryu though without the need of Sonson using tatsumaki after that if what u said is true why did Zoro use a named attack ? He can just swung his sword and cut mr 1?

 

[bennbeckman]

This already happened. Twice.

Zoro was compared to Oden in combat ability twice already. Did you miss it?

Not being hyperbolic here which 2 are you referring to. Or from Which chapters. Im guessing one of them or both of them are from Ch 955, last page and when he cuts the cliff?