Powers & Abilities Does Mihawk have Conqueror's Haki? Would it make sense for Mihawk NOT to have it?

[Salah WG]

It's still possible he have it but even if he doesn't, it's simply explained by him not being a Leader
Haoshoku Haki is the Sign of a King & Leader

Mihawk is King of Swordsmen in terms of Power but he doesn't rule over anyone nor does he want to have any follower
(Even Perona, the way he talks to her clearly shows that this guy doesn't care about Leadership/Rulership)

Rayleigh & Katakuri & Zoro (If he shows CoC) even if they have someone Superior than them in Leadership still showed qualities of being someone worth following & also showed desire to (Rayleigh replaced Roger as Captain, Katakuri is a Role Model to his Siblings & they listen to him, Zoro wanted to lead Samurai & is seen as SH's Vice Captain)

CoC Users are those with the ability to Influence Others & Conquer their will, Mihawk only wants to prove he is Stronger/Better

 

[Cyrus the Cactus]

He doesn't have it.
Zoro isn't surpassing or beating a conqueror in his lifetime.

That's luffy job.

So Zoro isn't surpassing Doflamingo according to you?
He isn't surpassing Hancock?

He's probably already stronger than both.

Edit: I noticed you already changed the goalposts from "fight" to "surpass/beat"

 

[Jo_Ndule]

So Zoro isn't surpassing Doflamingo according to you?
He isn't surpassing Hancock?

He's probably already stronger than both.

Edit: I noticed you already changed the goalposts from "fight" to "surpass/beat"

He didnt surpass Doffy at DR
He wouldn't surpass Kata at WCI and will do it only at
He wouldn't surpass Oden at Wano ,perhaps at EoS
Won't surpass Any YOnko or Roger at EoS.

He won't Prime chinjao yet until post wano maybe

He is yet to surpass Hancock and Doffy

Mihawk would have CoC if he was linked to Luffy

 

[comrade]

@Jo_Ndule Rayleigh has CoC too as Roger's right hand man. And Zoro obviously is going to surpass Rayleigh, unless you think Luffy > Roger but Zoro < Rayleigh. And there is reason to think that Rayleigh is Mihawk's dad too.

Plus, Luffy's and Oden's ability to turn those around them into allies/followers is unique to them, just like voice of all things. Not every conqueror has that ability. As Rayleigh said, most people who made a name for themselves are conquerors. Chinjao said that the seas are full of Conquerors.

Again, Mihawk is the strongest in his domain, world renowned and standing at the top. Weird to assume that a bunch of high tiers have CoC but the WSS doesn't.

 

[Finalbeta]

He didnt surpass Doffy at DR
He wouldn't surpass Kata at WCI and will do it only at
He wouldn't surpass Oden at Wano ,perhaps at EoS
Won't surpass Any YOnko or Roger at EoS.

He won't Prime chinjao yet until post wano maybe

He is yet to surpass Hancock and Doffy

Mihawk would have CoC if he was linked to Luffy

Just: how do you know all of this stuff when Zoro has been practically featless since the very time he left his TS training???

Not to mention this is completely unrelated to whether or not CoC is at his disposal.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

@Jo_Ndule Rayleigh has CoC too as Roger's right hand man. And Zoro obviously is going to surpass Rayleigh, unless you think Luffy > Roger but Zoro < Rayleigh. And there is reason to think that Rayleigh is Mihawk's dad too.

Plus, Luffy's and Oden's ability to turn those around them into allies/followers is unique to them, just like voice of all things. Not every conqueror has that ability. As Rayleigh said, most people who made a name for themselves are conquerors. Chinjao said that the seas are full of Conquerors.

Again, Mihawk is the strongest in his domain, world renowned and standing at the top. Weird to assume that a bunch of high tiers have CoC but the WSS doesn't.

Zoro isn't Rayleigh
They have no connections even.

Mihawk is a lone wolf who isn't linked to Luffy

 

[comrade]

Zoro isn't Rayleigh
They have no connections even.

Mihawk is a lone wolf who isn't linked to Luffy

So new PK surpasses old PK, but new PK right hand man doesn't surpass old PK right hand man. So not only will Zoro not surpass Rayleigh in terms of his position in a PK crew, but neither will he surpass Rayleigh as a swordsman.

Noodle. Please.

 

[Haoshoku]

TO HAVE OR NOT TO HAVE WILL NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT IT IS WEAKER THAN KAIDO.

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3, 10, 20, 30 BLACK LAMINS, HAKI DO CONQUISTAR, FUTURE VISION, PLANETARY VISION, FUCK YOU, IT'S WEAKER THAN KAIDO.

I mean CoC doesn’t even change the playing field that much outside of occasional fodder control, atleast for now...Oda will surely expand on it in the future. Mihawk having it shouldn’t realistically change much if you had him below Kaido to begin with.

 

[Cyrus the Cactus]

He didnt surpass Doffy at DR
He wouldn't surpass Kata at WCI and will do it only at
He wouldn't surpass Oden at Wano ,perhaps at EoS
Won't surpass Any YOnko or Roger at EoS.

He won't Prime chinjao yet until post wano maybe

He is yet to surpass Hancock and Doffy

Mihawk would have CoC if he was linked to Luffy

Moving the goalposts again? Now Zoro has to surpass CoC users in the arc they appear in, when you originally said lifetime?

And lol at thinking Zoro isn't surpassing Oden by the end of Wano. Oda's placed hints with Hitetsu and Kaido himself suggesting he will.

 

[Kaido D. Stronger]

I mean CoC doesn’t even change the playing field that much outside of occasional fodder control, atleast for now...Oda will surely expand on it in the future. Mihawk having it shouldn’t realistically change much if you had him below Kaido to begin with.

The problem is that there are people dreaming that COC can levitate islands. Understood?

 

[Cyrus the Cactus]

The problem is that there are people dreaming that COC can levitate islands. Understood?

Those people are pretty dumb though. There's no logical connection between knocking out fodders and distorting reality or whatever Shanks wankers think his CoC can do.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

So new PK surpasses old PK, but new PK right hand man doesn't surpass old PK right hand man. So not only will Zoro not surpass Rayleigh in terms of his position in a PK crew, but neither will he surpass Rayleigh as a swordsman.

Noodle. Please.

Luffy's crew is surpassing RHP not RP or Yonko crews or Rocks

I thought you knew this.
Roger had conquerors under him, Luffy doesn't!
Roger made more enemies than allies while luffy made more allies.

Rayleigh was never connected to Zoro. Zoro isn't even VC and has no CoC , nor is he a shipwright and womaniser like Ray.

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Moving the goalposts again? Now Zoro has to surpass CoC users in the arc they appear in, when you originally said lifetime?

And lol at thinking Zoro isn't surpassing Oden by the end of Wano. Oda's placed hints with Hitetsu and Kaido himself suggesting he will.

Yes
Zoro can fight kaido 1 v 1 and not lose or lose high diff

Impressive... zoro > all retainers combined
Zoro can make wb shook
Zoro will be compared to Roger and wb ,and rocks pirates

Post wano zoro > Oden indeed

 

[nik87]

If anyone scales Mihawk up because of CoC, I am gonna haunt you in your sleep.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

He more than likely has it to be honest.

> Among the very creme de la crop of the OP world.

> Is the 'king' of all swordsmen and conquered all swordsmen.

> Is superior to most, if not outright all conquerors in One Piece.


If he doesn't, I would care much tbh. Would just show that even without it Mihawk is still stronger than 99.99999 percent of the world, maybe even 100 percent.

If COC is supposed to make you stronger in some way it would just mean Oda had to nerf Mihawk not to break the manga


Just GOAT things.

 

[comrade]

The problem is that there are people dreaming that COC can levitate islands. Understood?

No. But obviously those having CoC are said to have higher potential. They are those who have a stronger drive to achieve things and are more powerful in general (which doesn't mean weakest conqueror > strongest non conqueror). But you get the point.

This thread isn't about attributing CoC to Mihawk but discussing whether it makes sense based on specific arguments. And as I see it, Mihawk being a lone wolf isn't a meaningful argument against that notion. While there are plenty of reasons for Mihawk to be a conqueror, Standing at the top as the most powerful and most renowned swordsman in the world and being Shanks former rival, whose duels are remembered as a legend by the likes of Whitebeard. In a world where a lot of people who made a name for themselves have CoC, with Chinjao saying there are a lot of Conquerors in those seas fighting for the throne, not attributing it to Mihawk out of all people is silly.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

No. But obviously those having CoC are said to have higher potential. They are those who have a stronger drive to achieve things and are more powerful in general (which doesn't mean weakest conqueror > strongest non conqueror). But you get the point.

This thread isn't about attributing CoC to Mihawk but discussing whether it makes sense based on specific arguments. And as I see it, Mihawk being a lone wolf isn't a meaningful argument against that notion. While there are plenty of reasons for Mihawk to be a conqueror, Standing at the top as the most powerful and most renowned swordsman in the world and being Shanks former rival, whose duels are remembered as a legend by the likes of Whitebeard. In a world where a lot of people who made a name for themselves have CoC, with Chinjao saying there are a lot of Conquerors in those seas fighting for the throne, not attributing it to Mihawk out of all people is silly.

Does mihawk fight for the throne?
Does muhawk live in nW?

What does being here best at swordmanship has to do with CoC?

 

[Haoshoku]

Zoro isn't surpassing or beating a conqueror in his lifetime

He didnt surpass Doffy at DR
He wouldn't surpass Kata at WCI and will do it only at
He wouldn't surpass Oden at Wano ,perhaps at EoS
Won't surpass Any YOnko or Roger at EoS.

He won't Prime chinjao yet until post wano maybe

He is yet to surpass Hancock and Doffy

The problem is that there are people dreaming that COC can levitate islands. Understood?

What lmao? Ion think I ever heard that. Nonetheless Mihawk having CoC doesn’t change much of anything vs Kaido and it wouldn’t be Mihawk’s strong suit either I imagine.

 

[comrade]

Does mihawk fight for the throne?
Does muhawk live in nW?

What does being here best at swordmanship has to do with CoC?

Not all Conqueror's aim for being the PK. Whitebeard, who was Roger's equal in power, is the best example. He didn't care for the throne, he didn't care for power, all he wanted is to have a family. Hancock chills on her island in the Calm Belt of the Paradise side and rules over fodders.

Mihawk's ambition >> Whitebeard's, Hancock'sand Chinjao's. He wanted to be at the top of his domain. In terms of power.

 

[Kaido D. Stronger]

No. But obviously those having CoC are said to have higher potential. They are those who have a stronger drive to achieve things and are more powerful in general (which doesn't mean weakest conqueror > strongest non conqueror). But you get the point.

This thread isn't about attributing CoC to Mihawk but discussing whether it makes sense based on specific arguments. And as I see it, Mihawk being a lone wolf isn't a meaningful argument against that notion. While there are plenty of reasons for Mihawk to be a conqueror, Standing at the top as the most powerful and most renowned swordsman in the world and being Shanks former rival, whose duels are remembered as a legend by the likes of Whitebeard. In a world where a lot of people who made a name for themselves have CoC, with Chinjao saying there are a lot of Conquerors in those seas fighting for the throne, not attributing it to Mihawk out of all people is silly.

Whatever for me.
COC or not, the COC on the throne is now KAIDO.Yes, his duels are a legend, duels with characters weaker than KAIDO.

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Not all Conqueror's aim for being the PK. Whitebeard, who was Roger's equal in power, is the best example. He didn't care for the throne, he didn't care for power, all he wanted is to have a family. Hancock chills on her island in the Calm Belt of the Paradise side and rules over fodders.

Mihawk's ambition >> Whitebeard's, Hancock'sand Chinjao's. He wanted to be at the top of his domain. In terms of power.

Kaido ambition> PK.
Xebec and Kaido have the greatest ambitions ...

 

[comrade]

Kaido ambition> PK

Kaido is a suicidal drunk.