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Fallen Prince

Do you not know anything can be toxic? There's toxic shipping arguments, toxic Next strawhats arguments, toxic power scaling arguments, toxic character analysis arguments, toxic anything.

You just happen to dislike the zkk thing and that's why you think it's somehow special in this.
Like i said pairing things , zkk and random power scale are mostly headcanon.

It definately should bother if they are true fan, few here derail thread for their own agenda cough cough zkk fapboys.
 
So it looks like this chapter has pretty much set in stone that Luffy will be the one who takes down Kaido. Not that it should have ever been doubted, but we the information we got here solidified it. Ace wanted to go back to Wano, and take down Kaido, but never got to fulfill that promise. But what is extremely interesting, is that in the flashback, we are shown that Marco and Izo wanted to go to Wano with Ace, to help him. Now here we are a few years later, and who happens to be on Wano, while Ace's brother is there to take down Kaido? Marco and Izo, the same two who wanted to help Ace, will now help Luffy accomplish the deed.

There is something else just as interesting that I noticed this chapter as well, and it highly indicates that Zoro is going to scar the other side of Kaido's body. A few things lead me to believe this. The first, is now that we know Kaido has a mythical Fish fruit, if we look back to Fishman Island, Zoro used Shishi Sonson, to land a blow against Hordy Jones, A FISH-man, who would be Luffys final opponent for the Arc. Then, in the very next Arc, Zoro used Shi-Shishi Sonson to take down the Dragon on Punk Hazard. We also have this arc being somewhat of a call back to Thriller Bark, and in that Arc, Zoro used Shishi Sonson to try and save Luffy from Kuma.

So where am I going with all this? Well Shishi Sonson is a singular slash attack that Zoro uses, that seems to be one of, if not his most powerful cutting attack. Just one single slash, which deals heavy amounts of damage. When this chapter opened up, I realized something, that nobody ever really focused on, the first time it happened when Big Mom and Marco clashed in 995 and got this.



There was nothing really telling about it. They clashed, and it made a singular line through the left half of the giant skull on Onigashima. But then, this chapter opened up with Ace and Yamato clashing, and we got this.



Another clash, in the same spot Marco and Big Mom fought, which created another singular line, through the left half of the giant skull on Onigashima. Initially, I didn't put two and two together, but when I was finishing reading up the chapter, it hit me after remembering about the layout of the stuff on the rest of the island.



On the left side of the giant skull, sit three banners that resemble the pommel of a Katana, and then a giant sword. So if my prediction is right, at some point during the fight against Kaido, Zoro will deliver a Shi Shishi Sonson to Kaido's left side, scaring him directly opposite from where Oden scarred him. And if that's the case, Oda is an absolute madlad for setting it up the way he did.
 
Doriki? Do you also go around claiming that Luffy and Zoro are equals because Oda had them fighting equally against each other back in Alabasta arc, a dynamic which actually showed the 2 being fairly equal when going at each other when serious. I'm sure not many people bring that up to gauge their current strength in relation to each other so why should we talk about Doriki which happened over 500 chapters ago?
Zorobois love bringing that up - Luffy's and Zoro's fight in whisky peak. This is the number one argument, when they try to convince people, that Zoro is as strong or even stronger than Luffy lmao. But to be able to see that, you need to open up your eyes and actualy see both sides and not only the one you prefer.
But this has changed long time ago. Luffy has defeated characters Zoro could have not defeat at that moment.

The fact that Zoro's and Sanji's enemies are portrait as equals/on the same level and Zoro and Sanji beat them with the same dificulty shows more than enough, that Zoro and Sanji are equals aswell. Oda literaly brought in numbers to show that, but biased Zorobois like you will stil deny that.
Zoro and Sanji aren't equal, that much should be clear but for some reason there is always this resistance and unwillingness to accept it.
Clear for who? For Zorobois like you? Yes. The Manga says different tho.
Luffy and Zoro train constantly, dream of becoming the strongest in their respective fields and fighting is at the core of almost everything they seek to accomplish.
I like how you completely ignored my WB argument, because it dissproves your whole point which you and others keep bringing up. It does not matter if your dream requires strength or not - this does not make you stronger or weaker. Whitebeards dream was to have a family, a dream that does NOT require strength at all - but he was the strongest man.
Sanji's dream is to find the All Blue, which does not require to be the strongest - the same way is Luffy's dream, he wants to be the Pirate King, which does not require you to be the strongest - you have to find the OP.
Sanji is a cook who is good at fighting, doesn't train as much as the duo nor aspires to be some strong warrior or such thing,
Just because we don't see him train, does not mean he isn't training. Nor have we seen Luffy train Pre-TS, based on your logic, Zoro had to be the strongest in the crew - but he wasn't.
And just because you have another job on the ship, does not make you weaker lol
so obviously Oda will handle them differently which has show since post skip where Luffy and Zoro protrayal as well as feats throughout have put them above Sanji
Like what? Getting one shoted by Killer? Not being able to overpower Apoo in a 2 vs 1? Needing Drake to keep Apoo focused on drake, so Zoro can sneak attack him and stil not defeat him?
The best feat Zoro has Post-TS is cutting Pica...wow, tHaT dEfInItElY pUtS zOrO aBoVe SaNjI!!! lol
(hence why the need to create the RS to make him relevant again fighting wise otherwise he wouldn't come anywhere near close to Zoro and Luffy's level),
hahaha but completely ignoring that Zoro got Oden's overpowered magical sword as power up, because Zoro was too weak.

I guess Zoro was weaker than Sanji in TB, because Zoro got a PU in this Arc, Sanji didn't. So Zoro ''needed it to keep up with Sanji''. Funnily Sanji stil had the best feat against Oars - even after Zoro got his PU lmao
 
This is you unfortunately

I asked you what shows Marco and Drake are more important to this story than the straw hats

You answer "Marco exists in the war"... What? You think Marco just being there grants him main character importance?

Then you say stuff like "King hadn't used his sword so he isn't a swordsman" what???

King hasn't used his fire powers yet, Does king not have fire powers now? Well, he's called king the wildfire and he carries a sword around and he's on fire BUT he's never used a fire attack and he's never used his sword so King must not be a swordsman and must not have fire powers

The fire on his back and his name ae just for show the same way the sword he carries around is just for show

You actually hear yourself saying "King hasnt used a sword so he isn't a swordsman" and say yeah, I'm making a great point.

Hehehehe
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Kaido: "Izo, your sister is ours for the taking, she sleeps and cleans for us, she be ours for the night and for the day"

:doffytroll::doffytroll::doffytroll:

WB protects bunch of countries, can't protect Wano because of Kaido


WB like Sanji is a blonde wuss in the face of Kaido D. Vergo :christman::christman::christman:

Reminds me of this scene. Kaido: "just wanted to destroy something beautiful" :steef::steef::steef:
Are you ok? Did someone hurt your feelings? :feelsokeman:
 
In the argument how Zoro will shine in this arc and those that argue that he will be outshined by either Law or Kidd, Zoro had been built up to face off an entity which can't be harmed by normal means even with Haki and hence, the sword Enma was put into equation. Now, there are only two people in Wano right now that needed something like that to be harmed, Kaido and Big Mom.
By your logic it is Zoro vs Kaido+Bigmom since only Zoro can 'harm' both of them.
 
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