Speculations Zoro & Sanji vs King & Queen

[Patryipe]

Stop comparing King to Katakuri 2.0. Swordsman Katakuri (Katakuri 1.0.) with the Powder Powder no Mi was King level.

Spoiler

Katakuri 2.0. was created to be Luffy's equal, not King or Marco's equal. Katakuri 2.0. has nothing to do with Marco and King.

Dressrosa Luffy could do this:

Jozu, who was physically stronger than Marco, couldn't do this:

Jozu, in fact, was doing pre-time skip Luffy levels of damage to Crocodile.

Spoiler

Zoro beating King has nothing to do with Katakuri, because Katakuri 2.0. was designed with Luffy in mind, not King. The gap between Smoothie and Big Mom is massive. Oda could place Katakuri anywhere in that gap. It doesn't have to be on par with Marco/King.

I have no idea what you're saying. What is all this 1.0 and 2.0?

 

[sanjikun]

I have no idea what you're saying. What is all this 1.0 and 2.0?

You don't know what 1.0. and 2.0. means? Usually when you design something 1.0. is the first iteration and 2.0. is the second.

 

[Dark Hound]

You don't know what 1.0. and 2.0. means? Usually when you design something 1.0. is the first iteration and 2.0. is the second.

I think he just means you brought Kata's first design out of nowhere. I didn't even know of his first design tbh

 

[Patryipe]

You don't know what 1.0. and 2.0. means? Usually when you design something 1.0. is the first iteration and 2.0. is the second.

Nah, I just missed the original design pic when I first read the post so I was like WFT he's talking about?

Now I get it.

 

[Monster trio]

Being connected to Kaido doesnt prevent him from having the best fight against non-Kaido.
Fight against Kaido will be a slaughter fest, nobody will manage to shine there. Zoro's involvement in that fight will most likely be minimal.

i used to think just like you but there is a million hint that zoro is going to finish him off by cutting his head just like he did with the PH dragon and just like his ancestor Ryuma (this a speculation by me) .

 

[nik87]

i used to think just like you but there is a million hint that zoro is going to finish him off by cutting his head just like he did with the PH dragon and just like his ancestor Ryuma (this a speculation by me) .

That only means that Zoro needs to participate in that fight for a second. Everything that happens before that, Zoro is not required.

 

[Monster trio]

That only means that Zoro needs to participate in that fight for a second. Everything that happens before that, Zoro is not required.

Dude we are talking about kaido not pero's candy of course it's not going to be a small participation lol
Its still all just a speculation but one that i personally prefer

 

[nik87]

Dude we are talking about kaido not pero's candy of course it's not going to be a smal

My expectation of Zoro's involvement into Kaido fight is a single strike. Just like Shishi SonSon back on TB when Kuma tried to grab Luffy, same scene here in Wano but this time instead shoulder he goes for the head.

If Zoro ends up being involved more then it could look like fight against Oars but that would far exceed my expectations and my current expectations are already labeled as wanking so I would have to actually wank the Grandmaster even more.

 

[Finalbeta]

Please ...

What? :cheers:

Post automatically merged: Oct 14, 2019

My expectation of Zoro's involvement into Kaido fight is a single strike. Just like Shishi SonSon back on TB when Kuma tried to grab Luffy, same scene here in Wano but this time instead shoulder he goes for the head.

If Zoro ends up being involved more then it could look like fight against Oars but that would far exceed my expectations and my current expectations are already labeled as wanking so I would have to actually wank the Grandmaster even more.

The Grandmaster has hardly any bounds

 

[Monster trio]

My expectation of Zoro's involvement into Kaido fight is a single strike. Just like Shishi SonSon back on TB when Kuma tried to grab Luffy, same scene here in Wano but this time instead shoulder he goes for the head.

If Zoro ends up being involved more then it could look like fight against Oars but that would far exceed my expectations and my current expectations are already labeled as wanking so I would have to actually wank the Grandmaster even more.

dude i am labeled as a sanji fan but i really think that its logical that after all this hints that started back in zou that Zoro would get much more involvement against kaido than whats usually expected of him so , just because sanji was done very bad in his arc doesn't mean that zoro have to get the same treatment , my expectations of zoro are the same as the ones i had for sanji so i hope that oda doesn't disappoint this time .

 

[Levi_Ackerman]

Stop comparing King to Katakuri 2.0. Swordsman Katakuri (Katakuri 1.0.) with the Powder Powder no Mi was King level.

Spoiler

Katakuri 2.0. was created to be Luffy's equal, not King or Marco's equal. Katakuri 2.0. has nothing to do with Marco and King.

Dressrosa Luffy could do this:

Jozu, who was physically stronger than Marco, couldn't do this:

Jozu, in fact, was doing pre-time skip Luffy levels of damage to Crocodile.

Spoiler

Zoro beating King has nothing to do with Katakuri, because Katakuri 2.0. was designed with Luffy in mind, not King. The gap between Smoothie and Big Mom is massive. Oda could place Katakuri anywhere in that gap. It doesn't have to be on par with Marco/King.

This made me realize jozu is weaker that i thought.

 

[Lunaria]

This made me realize jozu is weaker that i thought.

To be fair, Oda probably changed his mind about Doflamingo's level. He was originally portrayed to be close to Admiral level, he wasn't scared of Kuzan and was ready to take on Fujitora. Then he backtracked and made him a YC4 or YC3 level character.

 

[pg13]

dude i am labeled as a sanji fan but i really think that its logical that after all this hints that started back in zou that Zoro would get much more involvement against kaido than whats usually expected of him so , just because sanji was done very bad in his arc doesn't mean that zoro have to get the same treatment , my expectations of zoro are the same as the ones i had for sanji so i hope that oda doesn't disappoint this time .

Where do people get this notion that Sanji got treated bad in wholecake? Sanji didnt get done bad in that arc, his treatment in that arc was the same treatment he got in Baratie, he didnt win any fight, he got a few feats and we learned more about Sanjis origins. Characters dont get fights or have their best moments, in their own character arcs. Also Wholecake was NOT a Fighting arc like Wano, infact its the opposite. The strawhats didnt come there to take down the enemy like they are now in Wano. The purpose was to get Sanji, the poneglyphs, & ESCAPE. If people had been paying attention it was clear Sanji wasnt getting a fight in that arc. It was stated multiple times the characters werent there to defeat Big Mom.

Theres a BIG difference how characters are portrayed in their personal character arcs and how they would be portrayed in an arc thats not their character arc that requires them to fight. Prime example is Sanji in Baratie

and Sanji in Arlong Park,

the portrayal from a combat stand point is completely different...why? because Arlong Park required the characters to fight.....simple as that. Characters are portrayed differently in arcs that require them to fight. Post Timeskip the only Major arcs that required the strawhats to fight are Dressrosa and Wano. So Its ridiculous to compare How Oda treated Sanji in wholecake to how he treats Zoro in Wano. Its like comparing Sanjis treatment in Baratie to Zoro's treatment in Alabasta. Sanjis gonna look a lot better in Wano than wholecake. Lastly Wano is not Zoro's character arc, thats a fan assumption.

 

[Venom]

So ,a tag team team possible now??
Chances have increased...

 

[Finalbeta]

Nope they won't fight them

Zoro is busy with Kaido, his true opponent

Sanji is still waiting for Page One and viceversa

 

[Courier]

Nope they won't fight them

Zoro is busy with Kaido, his true opponent

Sanji is still waiting for Page One and viceversa

Zoro busy with gifters

Kaido busy with sulong minks

Coincedence ?

Zoro vs kaido hype


Btw sanji will still solo king :cheers:

 

[Gauntlet]

irrelevant, he still disappointed, zoro himself stated he wasnt even enough to kill his boredom.

Hyouzou was able to block G2 Jet Pistol before the steroids. Hyouzou was arguably the strongest Fishman there excluding Jinbei pre-steroids. Luffy remarked about him being strong as well.

Zoro is just that guy.

 

[XGoldrogeRX]

especially considering the alliance lacks other relevant members

edit: as of now

alliance isn't lack of relevant member. ppl like scabbards and marco law kidd drake yamato are as relevant as sh member. that's why this is called alliance and war. not SH. luffy is the only ppl that above everyone in the matter of relevancy. but the other share same piece.


both sanji and zoro won't solo calamity. not even luffy have solo calamity level on his first encounter ( doflamingo, cracker). both zoro and sanji won't be above calamity after wano same like luffy won't be above yonko after wano. at very luck with the best plot armor ever in history, luffy would tie yonko after wano. but it's very unlikely.

 

[Gauntlet]

alliance isn't lack of relevant member. ppl like scabbards and marco law kidd drake yamato are as relevant as sh member. that's why this is called alliance and war. not SH. luffy is the only ppl that above everyone in the matter of relevancy. but the other share same piece.

Only Zoro and Luffy are the ones to show their training before the war and Zoro received the most fights/clashes against noteworthy people in Wano.

 

[XGoldrogeRX]

Only Zoro and Luffy are the ones to show their training before the war and Zoro received the most fights/clashes against noteworthy people in Wano.

noteworthy who?