Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1000 Spoilers Discussion
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The novels were better tbh. Can't Fear Your Own World should have been adapted with the Fullbring arc. Granted it didn't exist then, but it would be a much better story if both arcs were mixed together as one, Naturally, it lads to the TYBW arc with the Fullbringers obviously helping the Shinigami as well as Grimmjow and Neliel.
Needing help doesn't mean HE HIMSELF didn't take out almost half of the soldiers there LOL
Luffy was weak compared to big powers? sure.... But Shiki was comparable to that Luffy, slightly stronger as I suggested... but he wasn't anything special
The only soldiers he took out are fodders...
And Luffy in One scene, with his king's haki took out more soldiers than Shiki....
If you want to bring the idea "shiki destroyed ships?" that was not Luffy's goal there EVEN though he could with his gear 3rd... Luffy destroyed and oneshotted a giant rear admiral... better than what Shiki did LOL
As for Luffy vs Garp or Sengoku.... as I mentioned, forget about garp BECAUSE he wasn't serious with Luffy to begin with...
But Sengoku counts.. your excuses "we don't know if Sengoku used haki or not" is INVALID... because NORMAL punches don't make luffy bleed... Luffy bled a little... so Sengoku was FULLY SERIOUS... + DF + Haki + an attack to execute TWO CHARACTERS, Luffy and Ace...
however you want to slice it... however excuse you wanna write... whatever justification you come up with.... Facts is... A serious FRESH Sengoku could not finish take out Luffy easily who was exhausted beyond belief...
Just let me state this.... for Luffy... he would rather face a MASTER of Haki... than face a person who has DEADLY Devil Fruit like Akainu at the time...And you may argue that Sengoku or Garp are stronger than admirals like Akainu or Kizaru...etc... HOWEVER, it's about MATCH UPS and not about power scaling here... For Luffy Akainu and Kizaru and Aokiji are more bad match up for himself when compared to Sengoku... which is why if Luffy faced Sengoku, HE WOULD evade many attacks and can handle some beating before going down
Lastly, Luffy I stated is slightly weaker than Shiki, so it's supposed for Shiki to perfrom better a little
And before I finish... Luffy did NOT beat Shiki by his own... HE NEEDED LOTS OF HELP... he needed Belly the bird to allow him to fly and have sky battle... and he ALSO needed Nami to have Sky thunder to charge his feet to have a very powerful Gear 3rd attack that can finish Shiki... so he need THUNDER from Nami + Belly to pull it off
Which is logical cause Shiki was somewhat stronger than Luffy
Luffy was weak compared to big powers? sure.... But Shiki was comparable to that Luffy, slightly stronger as I suggested... but he wasn't anything special
The only soldiers he took out are fodders...
And Luffy in One scene, with his king's haki took out more soldiers than Shiki....
If you want to bring the idea "shiki destroyed ships?" that was not Luffy's goal there EVEN though he could with his gear 3rd... Luffy destroyed and oneshotted a giant rear admiral... better than what Shiki did LOL
As for Luffy vs Garp or Sengoku.... as I mentioned, forget about garp BECAUSE he wasn't serious with Luffy to begin with...
But Sengoku counts.. your excuses "we don't know if Sengoku used haki or not" is INVALID... because NORMAL punches don't make luffy bleed... Luffy bled a little... so Sengoku was FULLY SERIOUS... + DF + Haki + an attack to execute TWO CHARACTERS, Luffy and Ace...
however you want to slice it... however excuse you wanna write... whatever justification you come up with.... Facts is... A serious FRESH Sengoku could not finish take out Luffy easily who was exhausted beyond belief...
Just let me state this.... for Luffy... he would rather face a MASTER of Haki... than face a person who has DEADLY Devil Fruit like Akainu at the time...And you may argue that Sengoku or Garp are stronger than admirals like Akainu or Kizaru...etc... HOWEVER, it's about MATCH UPS and not about power scaling here... For Luffy Akainu and Kizaru and Aokiji are more bad match up for himself when compared to Sengoku... which is why if Luffy faced Sengoku, HE WOULD evade many attacks and can handle some beating before going down
Lastly, Luffy I stated is slightly weaker than Shiki, so it's supposed for Shiki to perfrom better a little
And before I finish... Luffy did NOT beat Shiki by his own... HE NEEDED LOTS OF HELP... he needed Belly the bird to allow him to fly and have sky battle... and he ALSO needed Nami to have Sky thunder to charge his feet to have a very powerful Gear 3rd attack that can finish Shiki... so he need THUNDER from Nami + Belly to pull it off
Which is logical cause Shiki was somewhat stronger than Luffy
None of the films can fundamentally be canon. The 3 new world films take place at points where the crew is allegedly all together but without Law, Kinemon, Momo, etc. That right there already breaks their canon. Don't even get me started on the last film lol, it doesnt work on canon at all.
Strong World "could" have worked if Brook didn't mention that his fight against Duval was his first fight as a strawhat. Not to mention Zoro is just perfectly fine during his fights in strong world but struggles to breathe when fighting Duval's crew because of Kuma
They don't work
Strong World "could" have worked if Brook didn't mention that his fight against Duval was his first fight as a strawhat. Not to mention Zoro is just perfectly fine during his fights in strong world but struggles to breathe when fighting Duval's crew because of Kuma
They don't work
Here you go:
Chapter Title:Strawhat Luffy
Chapter starts with Luffy on the 5th floor, he complains about there being no enemies to warm himself up before Kaido when he suddenly hears some metallic sound ahead of himself.
The sound is revealed to be from Kid's giant scrap of metal which takes the form of a Dragon, Kid tells Killer this Giant metal structure will be perfect to take down Kaido when Luffy screams to them while running that he is the one who will take Kaido.
Cut to the 1st floor- Robin and Brook are running,Brook is thankful of Luffy,Sanji and Jinbei having cleared the way for them when they encounter Trafalgar Law who tells them about the poneglyph he found on the basement.
In the live hall- Queen continues shooting at Marco who regenerates,and goes full speed towards the hole in the dome guarded by King. Marco and King collide in a direct crash forming a ball of flames and haki sparks around them,their respective bounties are given 1.6 billion for Marco and 1.55 billion berries for King.
Zoro asks Marco to send him through the hole and he will find his way himself,but King calls Zoro a cheeky brat and sends a ball of flames at him which Marco evades at the last second and throws Zoro through the hole.
On the 3rd floor,Sanji escapes the women at his pursuit and ends up on the 2nd floor with Queen,Queen calls him Vinsmoke Judge's son which enrages Sanji who calls him bastard in return and attacks.
Cut to Nami and Tama's location- Tama has deviced a plan which consists of mass production of Kibi Dango which will be aimed at the mouths of smile users through Ussop's sniping skills in an attempt to drastically reduce the amount of enemies.
At Yamato's location,Yamato opens Oden's journal and tells Momo she found his father's journal in Kuri before telling him she has important stuff to tell him about Luffy. Yamato tells Momo about the ancient kingdom which existed 1000 years ago and about the "D" clan who opposed the Gods of the world,she says Luffy and his friends are those who will bring the dawn to Wano.
Cut back to the first floor,Robin tells Law about Luffy having already gone to the roof and says Law is late. Law complains about the race to the roof not being some sort of game and pulls out his Room + Shambles in a magnificent double spread where Luffy,Kid,Killer,Zoro and him appear at the same time on the skull dome.
Luffy is happy to see law but Kid says Law just wanted to look cool with that move while Zoro notices the lifeless bodies of the minks musketeers through the snowy skull dome and alerts Luffy about them.
Kaido and Big Mom appear laughing with the lifeless bodies of the 9 scabbards at their feet. Luffy gets even more enraged and immediately goes G3,Zoro puts on his bandanna,Law pulls Room with Kid pulling Super Punk Weaslow and Killer pulling his Hardened mechanical scythes in a magnificent double spread.
Kaido makes fun of Luffy and his companions then asks him to repeat what he said in Kuri,Luffy reminisces of his connection to Wano while Law shambles the scabbards away..
Luffy attacks Kaido with a Red hawk gatling using advanced Ryuo making Kaido bleed to Big Mom's confusion and a panel of the Sn smiling.
Chapter ends with Luffy saying he will surpass the yonkou and become pirate King.
Chapter Title:Strawhat Luffy
Chapter starts with Luffy on the 5th floor, he complains about there being no enemies to warm himself up before Kaido when he suddenly hears some metallic sound ahead of himself.
The sound is revealed to be from Kid's giant scrap of metal which takes the form of a Dragon, Kid tells Killer this Giant metal structure will be perfect to take down Kaido when Luffy screams to them while running that he is the one who will take Kaido.
Cut to the 1st floor- Robin and Brook are running,Brook is thankful of Luffy,Sanji and Jinbei having cleared the way for them when they encounter Trafalgar Law who tells them about the poneglyph he found on the basement.
In the live hall- Queen continues shooting at Marco who regenerates,and goes full speed towards the hole in the dome guarded by King. Marco and King collide in a direct crash forming a ball of flames and haki sparks around them,their respective bounties are given 1.6 billion for Marco and 1.55 billion berries for King.
Zoro asks Marco to send him through the hole and he will find his way himself,but King calls Zoro a cheeky brat and sends a ball of flames at him which Marco evades at the last second and throws Zoro through the hole.
On the 3rd floor,Sanji escapes the women at his pursuit and ends up on the 2nd floor with Queen,Queen calls him Vinsmoke Judge's son which enrages Sanji who calls him bastard in return and attacks.
Cut to Nami and Tama's location- Tama has deviced a plan which consists of mass production of Kibi Dango which will be aimed at the mouths of smile users through Ussop's sniping skills in an attempt to drastically reduce the amount of enemies.
At Yamato's location,Yamato opens Oden's journal and tells Momo she found his father's journal in Kuri before telling him she has important stuff to tell him about Luffy. Yamato tells Momo about the ancient kingdom which existed 1000 years ago and about the "D" clan who opposed the Gods of the world,she says Luffy and his friends are those who will bring the dawn to Wano.
Cut back to the first floor,Robin tells Law about Luffy having already gone to the roof and says Law is late. Law complains about the race to the roof not being some sort of game and pulls out his Room + Shambles in a magnificent double spread where Luffy,Kid,Killer,Zoro and him appear at the same time on the skull dome.
Luffy is happy to see law but Kid says Law just wanted to look cool with that move while Zoro notices the lifeless bodies of the minks musketeers through the snowy skull dome and alerts Luffy about them.
Kaido and Big Mom appear laughing with the lifeless bodies of the 9 scabbards at their feet. Luffy gets even more enraged and immediately goes G3,Zoro puts on his bandanna,Law pulls Room with Kid pulling Super Punk Weaslow and Killer pulling his Hardened mechanical scythes in a magnificent double spread.
Kaido makes fun of Luffy and his companions then asks him to repeat what he said in Kuri,Luffy reminisces of his connection to Wano while Law shambles the scabbards away..
Luffy attacks Kaido with a Red hawk gatling using advanced Ryuo making Kaido bleed to Big Mom's confusion and a panel of the Sn smiling.
Chapter ends with Luffy saying he will surpass the yonkou and become pirate King.
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See what you wrote contradicts what I told you... I told you Shiki was slightly > Luffy
Thus him showing slightly better feats than Luffy in Marineford is okay by myself.... (even though Luffy showed almost similar feats)
But anyway, assuming Shiki showed better feats, it was NOT by big Margin...
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Luffy faught an OLD SHIKI.... not a prime shiki... so his powers should have decreased by some good margin just like Garp or Sengoku
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Luffy NEEDED help from Nami in that fight to use Thunder to beat Shiki + he needed the bird to allow him to fly and maneuver many attacks...
So.... the MOVIE IS NOT contradicting anything... it's from Oda himself and it's VERY CLOSE to what should happen...because Luffy CAN BEAT that old shiki in that time considering ALL the information we have above...
It was valid though
Thus him showing slightly better feats than Luffy in Marineford is okay by myself.... (even though Luffy showed almost similar feats)
But anyway, assuming Shiki showed better feats, it was NOT by big Margin...
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Luffy faught an OLD SHIKI.... not a prime shiki... so his powers should have decreased by some good margin just like Garp or Sengoku
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Luffy NEEDED help from Nami in that fight to use Thunder to beat Shiki + he needed the bird to allow him to fly and maneuver many attacks...
So.... the MOVIE IS NOT contradicting anything... it's from Oda himself and it's VERY CLOSE to what should happen...because Luffy CAN BEAT that old shiki in that time considering ALL the information we have above...
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Is somebody seriously trying to validate Luffy vs Shiki
yea Shiki was old, so he was weaker than his prime, but following the trend it will make old shik on par with old garp and old sengoku, old garp and old sengoku was able in handling BB pirates. However, i dont give a shit about it anymore, you're just a delusional person and let the readers decide who is delusional me or you, just answer the rest of my questions
1. can pre TS luffy rules the New World?
2. Im too lazy to copy cuz you're always trying to avoid this question, just check it back by yourself
1. can pre TS luffy rules the New World?
2. Im too lazy to copy cuz you're always trying to avoid this question, just check it back by yourself
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