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He couldn’t hurt snack? How do you know this? Tell me because I wasn’t aware you were one of Odas editors.

Kidd was stated to injure a sweet commander.....if it were Cracker or Smoothie then he’d MURDER snack,...

Kidd let himself be captured for Killer’s sake....are you kidding me? You didn’t really believe Kidd got beatin by fodders did you?

Kidd wasn’t going all out when fighting Apoo in fact Apoo got right back up after an attack from Zoro showing he’s quite an endurance beast.
90% of Kidd will die in this war, why? 1. Oda said this war will be bloodier than MF. But the scabbard is alive. So who's going to die that big?) 2 Kidd is too proud. When he sees a big difference between him and Luffy, it will be a failure for him. And pride is the essence of Kidd. He will no longer be needed for the manga, since he will be INTERESTED already. He cannot even injure Kaido without advanced Haki Armament 2.0
 
He couldn’t hurt snack? How do you know this? Tell me because I wasn’t aware you were one of Odas editors.

Kidd was stated to injure a sweet commander.....if it were Cracker or Smoothie then he’d MURDER snack,...

Kidd let himself be captured for Killer’s sake....are you kidding me? You didn’t really believe Kidd got beatin by fodders did you?

Kidd wasn’t going all out when fighting Apoo in fact Apoo got right back up after an attack from Zoro showing he’s quite an endurance beast.
No. Kidd wounded Snek. But it was only Snack, not Smoothie and Cracker, because after Snack's failure, the forest was guarded by Brule! And BM only sent Cracker to help because Luffy defeated Doflamingo.

You still haven't answered who was Mihawk's level training Kidd. You understand that if Kidd is Zoro's level after at least 2 years of training with Mihawk, then the whole point of these training disappears, because then it turns out that it was not necessary to sit for 2 years on 1 island. This is the failure of the manga.

But if you can't figure it out yourself, look at both Law and Luffy versus Doflamingo. Next, look at Drake and Urog. These 2 were the strongest Supernovae 2 years ago. Even stronger than Kidd
 
I’m actually not trying to downplay Zoro with my usual trolling or anything this time. I’m being 100% real here like 100% Kaios.

Do some of you guys seriously believe this Manga would be great without Luffy having a TRUE rival? Are you all seriously ok with him being the chosen one all the time with his only competition being his underling? Cause to me that’s hella boring......no excitement at all

Oda has stated he has plans for him:
-Both have conquerors
-Both competed in udon
-Both want to become pirate king
-Both want to defeat Kaido

I get blackbeard is also somewhat of a rival but this dude is a YONKO and out of Luffy’s and Kidd’s league right now. Idk I always Imagined Kidd being Luffy’s Whitebeard while Blackbeard is his Xebec. Y’all see where I’m coming from right?

Kidd is the only supernova as daring as Luffy and his only real hope for a true Rival in the series....
 
I’m actually not trying to downplay Zoro with my usual trolling or anything this time. I’m being 100% real here like 100% Kaios.

Do some of you guys seriously believe this Manga would be great without Luffy having a TRUE rival? Are you all seriously ok with him being the chosen one all the time with his only competition being his underling? Cause to me that’s hella boring......no excitement at all

Oda has stated he has plans for him:
-Both have conquerors
-Both competed in udon
-Both want to become pirate king
-Both want to defeat Kaido

I get blackbeard is also somewhat of a rival but this dude is a YONKO and out of Luffy’s and Kidd’s league right now. Idk I always Imagined Kidd being Luffy’s Whitebeard while Blackbeard is his Xebec. Y’all see where I’m coming from right?

Kidd is the only supernova as daring as Luffy and his only real hope for a true Rival in the series....
Soon Oda will put your Kidd in his place. He couldn't do anything to Apoo at all. You write that he would not be serious then? Lol. Is 1 katana Zoro serious?) And without Ashuru?) On the Zoro shown so far >>>> Kidd. It is a fact
 
I dont get the Sabo vs Akainu idea, he wasn't there when Ace was killed. There is zero impact on him defeating Akainu.

The Revolutionaries' goal is to get rid of the Tenryuubito. CP-0 stand to protect them, that should be who they fight in the end.
I too believe it makes no sense. Akainu is the head of the Marines, seriously injured Luffy and killed Ace before Luffy’s eyes but he’s gonna be defeated by a tertiary character because this character ate the Mera Mera no Mi ? I highly doubt that.

Zoro vs Kizaru makes no sense in my eyes either. Zoro wants to be the WSS so he always fights swordsmen to get closer to his dream because that’s the logical approach from a narrative standpoint. Why would he fight Kizaru instead of the Admiral who is an actual swordsman and already clashed with him in Dressrosa ? He also expressed the desire to fight and defeat Fujitora but doesn’t give a shit about Kizaru.

Fujitora won’t resign from the Marines because it will add nothing to the story. Kuzan did so because Oda is setting something up with this character and he’s like the antithesis of Akainu. There’s no point in repeating the same development with Fujitora, his issues with Akainu is just a way to characterize him.

Kizaru is a kick specialist that can power up his legs with his light power, which is obviously reminiscent of Sanji powering up his legs with DJ. Not only that but Kizaru can also laser kick his opponents and Oda hinted at Sanji’s RS making him able to shoot lasers with his kicks too. And of course, there’s the fact Sanji is a speed oriented fighter like Kizaru.

Yamato isn’t an SH as of now so it’s way too soon to say she will fight Ryokugyu, Jinbe is the most sensible pick because he’s already an SH and part of Luffy’s top 3 subordinates. I’ll add that Yamato is probably overrated in my opinion, I don’t see her being stronger than Jinbe or equal to him. I would put her above Franky but that’s about it, her feats aren’t impressive enough to put her any higher on the list.

- Luffy vs Akainu
- Zoro vs Fujitora
- Sanji vs Kizaru
- Jinbe vs Ryokugyu

That’s my guess.
 
I’m actually not trying to downplay Zoro with my usual trolling or anything this time. I’m being 100% real here like 100% Kaios.

Do some of you guys seriously believe this Manga would be great without Luffy having a TRUE rival? Are you all seriously ok with him being the chosen one all the time with his only competition being his underling? Cause to me that’s hella boring......no excitement at all

Oda has stated he has plans for him:
-Both have conquerors
-Both competed in udon
-Both want to become pirate king
-Both want to defeat Kaido

I get blackbeard is also somewhat of a rival but this dude is a YONKO and out of Luffy’s and Kidd’s league right now. Idk I always Imagined Kidd being Luffy’s Whitebeard while Blackbeard is his Xebec. Y’all see where I’m coming from right?

Kidd is the only supernova as daring as Luffy and his only real hope for a true Rival in the series....
Katakuri ~ Whitebeard
Kid ~ Luffy's foil

After Wano it'll be clear what Kid is. Despite his lack of portrayal and feats, I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he = Luffy
 
I don’t know man. I’m not oda. My point is to at least give the guy a chance.....Zoro being Luffy’s only competition is TRASH im not saying this as a Zoro troll this time. I’m being serious....
Law was also a competitor. But Oda showed him too weak. Because Law hasn't been taught for 1.5 years like Luffy. So did Kidda. You should read Fairy Tail))
 
I’m actually not trying to downplay Zoro with my usual trolling or anything this time. I’m being 100% real here like 100% Kaios.

Do some of you guys seriously believe this Manga would be great without Luffy having a TRUE rival? Are you all seriously ok with him being the chosen one all the time with his only competition being his underling? Cause to me that’s hella boring......no excitement at all

Oda has stated he has plans for him:
-Both have conquerors
-Both competed in udon
-Both want to become pirate king
-Both want to defeat Kaido

I get blackbeard is also somewhat of a rival but this dude is a YONKO and out of Luffy’s and Kidd’s league right now. Idk I always Imagined Kidd being Luffy’s Whitebeard while Blackbeard is his Xebec. Y’all see where I’m coming from right?

Kidd is the only supernova as daring as Luffy and his only real hope for a true Rival in the series....

I get you but Kidd has been in shadow of many characters for so long and a lot of people dont even rate him:kayneshrug: I think Oda failed him cuz in sabaody him and luffy seemed equal but right now he isn't all that
 
We know Kidd was causing a bunch of a trouble all over the NW so he didnt train under someone near MIhawk for a long time also ewho the fuck would be near Mihawk and want to train Kidd even if you lowball Mihawk and put him #15 noone is available who is near Mihawk. Admirals wouldnt train a pirate, Neither would the Yonko train Kidd, and by extension neither would their commanders
Good points but we’ll see. We know 0 knowledge on Kidd.
Oda CLEARLY stated he had plans for this dude. I REFUSE to believe this guy is weaker than Zoro after all that portrayal....that’s just dumb
 
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