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That’s your opinion and a terrible one at that. You can gain experience and crazy haki blooms in the heat of battle. It’s a failure of a manga if Luffy has no rivals and he’s the chosen one who can’t be competed with....

his underling should not be his closest competition lol

Oda actually has plans for him and to make him weaker than Zoro is a shame. Who’s to say Kidd wasn’t trained by someone on Mihawks level? We know 0 about the guy.
I only acknowledge Sanji and Laboon as Luffy rivals. Sanji bc for wtvr reason always beats the dog shit out of his captain. And Laboon you already know.

Kid will die after Wano anyways with his walmart $5 crew
 
Interesting. Where does Cipher Pol take a role in all this
Yeah that's what I was saying before. Since CP-0 feels like a retread of CP-9, at least in terms of fighting Strawhats, i think Oda is really setting them up for the Revolutionaries.

- Both groups were involved in DR, serving or fighting against Doflamingo in the opposite ways.
- When Sabo mentioned the Revo goal of taking down the Tenryuubito, Lucci in the same chapter I think mentions protecting them absolutely.
- There are some old faces, followed by at least 5 new members (4 masked plus Stussy). I'd assume having old members would just make clashing with Strawhats redundant.

So for example, id expect Dragon and Sabo to take on the number 1 and 2 of CP-0, especially if they are vital to the revolutionary plotline
 
There is a fun theory going around that has to do with the Strawhats only having 11 crewmates and it matching well with the 11 "Zodiac" admirals (if the exist), Blackbeard, potentially Shank's crew, as well as potentially Im.

I'll start with the obvious. If Yamato joins, that would make 11 for Luffy.

- Blackbeard has 10 captains (1 unknown) and also himself

- Shanks has currently 10 main members, counting Rockstar. If Mihawk is meant to ally with Shanks for the EoS and fight Luffy, that's 11 members

- Each Admiral codename is based off the Chinese Zodiac so far. Akainu (dog), Aokiji (pheasant), Kizaru (monkey), Fujitora (tiger), Ryokugyu (bull), Chaton(pig), Momousagi (rabbit), leaving Horse, Snake, Dragon, Rat and Goat i believe. Aokiji is gone basically, and if he's not replaced, it leaves 11 Zodiac admirals. 7 of them would be VA's.

- Last one is a stretch, but Im, the Gorosei and Kong make 7 people that run the WG. One theory I've heard is that there are 4 WG operatives who command/run each of the blue's, while Kong mainly commands WG forces in Grandline/New World. We know there are unknown WG members, as Doflamingo talked to one at Marineford. Oda hid this persons face on purpose.

Just some fun things to think about. I do think many of these fights will be straight forward when the crew is complete.
*Carrot other wise I agree:cheers:
 
I gotta say though, now that Zoro is finally confirmed to be fighting Kaido with the team, I feel it was such waste for him not to fight a strong Samurai in the land of Samurai!
I still don't get why didn't Oda create such a character to be in the enemy side?

I remember how hyped people were when we first heard about Wano shogun and everyone expected a top tier Samurai that would be the his 1v1 fight of the arc, but it turned out to be that trash Orochi
 
Yeah that's what I was saying before. Since CP-0 feels like a retread of CP-9, at least in terms of fighting Strawhats, i think Oda is really setting them up for the Revolutionaries.

- Both groups were involved in DR, serving Doflamingo in the opposite ways.
- When Sabo mentioned the Revo goal of taking down the Tenryuubito, Lucci in the same chapter I think mentions protecting them absolutely.
- There are some old faces, followed by at least 5 new members (4 masked plus Stussy). I'd assume having old members would just make clashing with Strawhats redundant.

So for example, id expect Dragon and Sabo to take on the number 1 and 2 of CP-0, especially if they are vital to the revolutionary plotline
I'm thinking Dragon takes Im and Sabo takes Lucci, the rest of the commanders (4 masked) ~ 4 Rev Commanders (Lindberg, Karasu, Betty, Morley). And Ivankov fights Stussy.

Luffy and Co. take Marines bc Pirate/Marines never matched. And Gorosei would be Admiral Fights like Fujitora, Garp, Smoker, Coby?
 
you said Kidd trained under someone stronger than Mihawk you think someone like that is in Paradise or west blue long enough to train kidd for 2 yesrs
I said for all we knew in the past 2 years Kidd COULD’VE trained underneath someone NEAR Mihawks level......geez where tf did you get “west blue” from? I never mentioned a specific location. In fact I was referring to Kidd that’s spent 2 years in the New World.....
 
I gotta say though, now that Zoro is finally confirmed to be fighting Kaido with the team, I feel it was such waste for him not to fight a strong Samurai in the land of Samurai!
I still don't get why didn't Oda create such a character to be in the enemy side?

I remember how hyped people were when we first heard about Wano shogun and everyone expected a top tier Samurai that would be the his 1v1 fight of the arc, but it turned out to be that trash Orochi
The king vs zoro theory isn’t dead yet
 
I gotta say though, now that Zoro is finally confirmed to be fighting Kaido with the team, I feel it was such waste for him not to fight a strong Samurai in the land of Samurai!
I still don't get why didn't Oda create such a character to be in the enemy side?

I remember how hyped people were when we first heard about Wano shogun and everyone expected a top tier Samurai that would be the his 1v1 fight of the arc, but it turned out to be that trash Orochi
A dude with kyoshiro design and stronger than King would have been great
 
That’s your opinion and a terrible one at that. You can gain experience and crazy haki blooms in the heat of battle. It’s a failure of a manga if Luffy has no rivals and he’s the chosen one who can’t be competed with....

his underling should not be his closest competition lol

Oda actually has plans for him and to make him weaker than Zoro is a shame. Who’s to say Kidd wasn’t trained by someone on Mihawks level? We know 0 about the guy.
God, Kidd couldn't even knock out Apoo for a second with his strongest attack so far, he could hurt Snek the most. What has Kidd shown throughout the manga? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Kidd was unable to dodge the Gifted's arrow in chapter 981. He's weak. He was caught by weaklings in Udon, yes, he was without DF, but they are weaklings. And the moment with Apu is proof of his weakness. And the Killer, who went 3 sword style with 1 attack. Kidd cannot be much stronger than the Killer. Like Zoro and Luffy
 
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