Future Events Smoker will be close to Luffy's level the next time we see him
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Is real L record was against Doffy where he clearly lost. Since that Sanji had multiple battles, a powerup and training while Smoker was still bandaged and travelling for Kids.
Sanji get a powerup, had multiple fights while Smoker was sitting around. Now Sanji probably(at most) face a Commander. Yet we don't know if Sanji also show another powerup+ teamup with someone like Drake vs Queen.
In otherway Sanji is still leagues under Luffy, even after having a powerup and having multiple fights on his back(+training).
And Smoker who was just travelling with Kids, still injuried for weeks after his Doffy encounter, getting powerups and reaching Luffy lvl??
Smoker can be happy if he reach Sanji current lvl. Anything else would be a big bs if Smoker reach so soon Luffy lvl.
Sanji get a powerup, had multiple fights while Smoker was sitting around. Now Sanji probably(at most) face a Commander. Yet we don't know if Sanji also show another powerup+ teamup with someone like Drake vs Queen.
In otherway Sanji is still leagues under Luffy, even after having a powerup and having multiple fights on his back(+training).
And Smoker who was just travelling with Kids, still injuried for weeks after his Doffy encounter, getting powerups and reaching Luffy lvl??
Smoker can be happy if he reach Sanji current lvl. Anything else would be a big bs if Smoker reach so soon Luffy lvl.
WCI and Wano proved that Oda can literally hand out power ups with Sanji's raid suit and Zoro's Enma.
Franky's improved weapons came from VP's lab . If I recall, he is also an expert in seastone and implemented them on Marine boats to avoid Sea Kings. For all we know, he may be able to give Smoker an improved Jitte.
Franky's improved weapons came from VP's lab . If I recall, he is also an expert in seastone and implemented them on Marine boats to avoid Sea Kings. For all we know, he may be able to give Smoker an improved Jitte.
Sanji was capable of One Shotting the likes of Bobbins and Sheepshead (both portrayed as big deals) and did a lot of damage to Vergo who was undeniably stronger than Smoker. Doflamingo also took him more seriously than he took Smoker.
There's also the fact that he got up quickly from the same attack that put Smoker in the Hospital Bed for days
There's also the fact that he got up quickly from the same attack that put Smoker in the Hospital Bed for days
Smoker had the advantage preskip due to the fact he had a logia, with Luffy not knowing haki at the time. Ever since the timeskip however, tables turned, not to mention the gap which grew further and further due to Luffy's timeskip training
Last time we saw Smoker was during the events of dressrosa and he was still injured, heading for Vegapunk
His only chance to still be relevant is if he somehow gets upgraded by whatever new invention Vegapunk could be creating
Luffy totally outclasses him though. He was already a level(or two) above in Punk Hazard. Then he gained future sight, leveling himself further, and now level 2+3 hardening during Udon's training, leveling him up even more
At best i could see Oda do some gag moments next time they meet due to his jitte countering devil fruit users(and eventhen, in Udon, Luffy was affected less, although the seastone cuffs were weaker against df users than ordinary seastone cuffs), but in terms of overall level, he left Smoker in the dust since PH, with the gap growing bigger and bigger, with unfortunately Smoker turning into irrelevancy power-wise
Last time we saw Smoker was during the events of dressrosa and he was still injured, heading for Vegapunk
His only chance to still be relevant is if he somehow gets upgraded by whatever new invention Vegapunk could be creating
Luffy totally outclasses him though. He was already a level(or two) above in Punk Hazard. Then he gained future sight, leveling himself further, and now level 2+3 hardening during Udon's training, leveling him up even more
At best i could see Oda do some gag moments next time they meet due to his jitte countering devil fruit users(and eventhen, in Udon, Luffy was affected less, although the seastone cuffs were weaker against df users than ordinary seastone cuffs), but in terms of overall level, he left Smoker in the dust since PH, with the gap growing bigger and bigger, with unfortunately Smoker turning into irrelevancy power-wise
We would need a year long flash back for smoker to catch up to luffy. Even on PH luffy was stronger with just g2/g3 not even showing g4. Smoker would need by far the fastest growth rate for it to make sense for him to be close to post wano luffy. Post wano luffy should be entering top tier status and smoker would have to jump from being weaker than vergo to being on par with someone like akainu. Hyping smoker to the max we could see him with a awakened df, better haki (doubt advanced), and better physical stats. Overall id say he could be a yc3 to yc2 which is still a huge jump.
Using luffy wanting to fight him doesn't mean smoker has to be equals with him. Throughout the story luffy has wanted to fight characters both weaker and stronger than him. Ignoring the sheer power jump smoker would need for him to be close to luffy isn't logical. I mean why does smoker even need to be close to luffy in the first place? If you say its because he's this gens garp then why wasn't already closer out of the time skip so luffy couldn't make this giant gap if they were supposed to have that relationship?
Using luffy wanting to fight him doesn't mean smoker has to be equals with him. Throughout the story luffy has wanted to fight characters both weaker and stronger than him. Ignoring the sheer power jump smoker would need for him to be close to luffy isn't logical. I mean why does smoker even need to be close to luffy in the first place? If you say its because he's this gens garp then why wasn't already closer out of the time skip so luffy couldn't make this giant gap if they were supposed to have that relationship?
Yes, DF hax. Two smart users, arguably both doctorate level intelligence or above, using very scientific powers. Luffy actually looks worse because he started out with a huge lead and couldn't even lose the rematch. Law himself is extremely underrated or perhaps just misunderstood because of what happened with Doflamingo, who knew exactly how to fight him so as to make it look easy.
Beating Vergo, and I'm not necessarily saying he would have, wouldn't have guaranteed that they would get the heart back. It was something like a hostage situation and obviously the smart thing is to accomplish the goal as a priority. It's what separates smarter characters from a Luffy, who botches the capture just so he could whoop some ass.
Anyway, it's right there. He was beating Vergo, then Vergo comments on him being sloppy, and his only response is securing the heart. Not a crazy amount of reading comprehension needed.
Beating Vergo, and I'm not necessarily saying he would have, wouldn't have guaranteed that they would get the heart back. It was something like a hostage situation and obviously the smart thing is to accomplish the goal as a priority. It's what separates smarter characters from a Luffy, who botches the capture just so he could whoop some ass.
Anyway, it's right there. He was beating Vergo, then Vergo comments on him being sloppy, and his only response is securing the heart. Not a crazy amount of reading comprehension needed.
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