Of course he was lol. He was tortured by Orochi and lost his mind. It wasn't even a fair fight.
I guess i said and argued that only 2 million times. Now Oda finally confirms. :)
This is not a debateble thing, was confirmed in Udon bro
The idea that Killer was mentally compromised during his fight with Zoro has been unsubstantiated from the very beginning and contradicts the latest chapter. Killer credits his lack of weapons for his defeat, not some imaginary mental handicap.
The claim that he was tortured by Orochi is also simply not true. It never happened.
Kaido confirms only a few can fight him : WB, Shanks, Linlin , Oden, Roger.
One again mihawk has zero hype above oden/Yonko/rogee/xebec
A few among top tiers can fight kaido and none can beat him 1 v 1
Linlin was not mentioned, stop inserting her.
The four Kaido saw in Luffy's shadow were the four who defeated him.
Majority of Zoro fans said that, don't remember if you were one of those
:holdthisl:for them then lol
Majority of Zoro fans did not say that, nor do they believe that.'
Sources:
- I made the "was Killer nerfed thread"
- I'm active in the Zoro fanclub and Discord server.
It's getting annoying at this point. The position you mentioned (the scythes made Killer stronger instead of weaker) was held by only a handful of people.
Kaido already in dragon form, it’s not looking good for Zoro. His best feat might be start of the fight shit....
U still making these idiot claims? Both can an will hurt Kaido. The sooner u realize the easier it’ll be grasp the rest of the fight.But knowing you, you’ll just say something random or wrong. Similar to how killer wasn’t nerfed or enma wasn’t a PU
As I told
@Jo_Ndule:
- Oni Giri is his most basic santoryu attack
- Zoro has not yet mastered Enma
- Zoro hasn't brought out Asura
It's not looking good for Law either, all he did was drop rocks on Kaido. Unless you want to imply that dropping rocks actually damaged Kaido or matches Boundman's power, Law had the weakest offensive showing this chapter.
If Killer with his proper weapons performs similarly to post Enma Zoro, what does that say about said Killer vs pre Enma Zoro ? :kizabat:
I don't know if we can discuss this though, might mean we hate Zoro if we do
- Well, Zoro just indicated that he has not yet mastered Enma's power.
- Zoro told us that he would become stronger after mastering Enma.
At this point it's not clear that there's a gap between current Zoro and Shusui Zoro (especially given that Shusui was a black blade). I do think that over the fight Zoro will acclimatise to Enma and start dishing out more powerful attacks. If Killer performs on par with a Zoro that has fully acclimatised to Enma (assuming this happens during the battle), then that would be favourable portrayal for him compared to Pre Enma Zoro.
At any rate, Law's combo attack with Luffy was dropping rocks on Kaido. Unless you're claiming that dropping rocks = Kong Gun with internal destruction ryuo, then you can't infer that Killer has equal AP to Zoro just because he performed a combination attack with him.
So Oda separated the trio from the duo. Kind of an L for Zoro there, got paired with Killer.
It's hillarious that we get called haters for suggesting that Kid and Law will probably outperform Zoro while in the chapter we have Zoro talking shit and showing rivalry to Kidd's underling
Even said underling suggesting he can match Zoro
Ive been saying this for month now, and people loughed at me, whos loughin now ? :cheers:
I don't see how Zoro getting paired with Killer is supposedly an L for him. After Luffy Zoro has had the best performance of the three:
but how has Kidd outperformed Zoro here?
Luffy's feats:
- The Yonkou were focused on him last chapter.
- His Red Roc rattled Kaido and earned him a compliment.
- Kaido saw the shadow of the other formidable opponents he faced in Luffy
- He partially dodged a Rammei Hakkei.
- He attacked Kaido and hurt with a Boundman attack.
Zoro's feats:
- He cut Big Mom's Heavenly Fire and saved Luffy from an attack
- He attacked Kaido and hurt him with Rengoku Onigiri
Kidd's Feat:
- He attacked Kaido and might have hurt him
Those are just the people that beat Kaido.
I think it's penetration haki because Zoro was wondering the same about Luffy's haki and he has ryuo.
But unlike Kidd, Zoro recognised what he saw. Kidd didn't even know what happened. Zoro recognised it as the form of haki Luffy was training.
those 2 are really comparable and that a fair fight is an extreme diff either way
Zoro said the result would still be the same. Killer gets oneshot by his first clean hit against a Santoryu Zoro. Gaining his weapons wouldn't suddenly raise his durability or endurance.
That said I'd give Killer the win over Nitoryu Zoro.