Rules ....

[sanjikun]

Everytime zoros used it hes shown it, theres literally no reason not to.

No, every time he lands a finisher or for some great moment he uses it. They have Killer, Kid, Law, etc... Oda is not going to spent his time colouring their shit black.

Akira Toriyama literally made Super Saiyan blonde because he didn't want to bother his artists coloring his hair black.

“I gave him blonde hair so that it wouldn’t be as much work for my assistant. He spent a lot of time blacking in Goku’s hair, and I had to erase over it. It was a real pain…” Toriyama explained.

 

[HA001]

No, every time he lands a finisher or for some great moment he uses it. They have Killer, Kid, Law, etc... Oda is not going to spent his time colouring their shit black.

Akira Toriyama literally made Super Saiyan blonde because he didn't want to bother his artists coloring his hair black.

Its the same move he used on killer and that had haki on.
And no not really hes was using it on the sandai vs apoo before the shishi son son so its not just for finishers.

 

[zzShinichi]

Bro, the first strike of Zoro against a Yonkou is not some minor shit that Oda forgot to add details. It's something big, something important, especially when involving Enma, the Blade that can fucking draw Haki. Saying eh it's just Oda forgot to add the black colour to the blade is dumb.

 

[Finalbeta]

This is the Cracker Pretzel shit all over again. Why would someone use a named attack without Haki? Against a Yonko of all people. That literally makes 0 sense.

Oda just doesn't draw CoA all the time. We've seen plenty of examples. He almost never draws it with Sanji.

Why would it not be shown then

 

[sanjikun]

Why would it not be shown then

For the same reason he didn't show it against Scabbards. There is a precedent for this.

Doing that shit every time is a pain in the ass art wise.

 

[Finalbeta]

For the same reason he didn't show it against Scabbards. There is a precedent for this.

Doing that shit every time is a pain in the ass art wise.

Why was it even used against the Scabbards in your opinion, giving it wasn't shown

 

[sanjikun]

Why was it even used against the Scabbards in your opinion, giving it wasn't shown

No, I mean he never coloured the Scabbards weapons black, and we know for a fact they can do it

We just gotta accept he's inconsistent with this crap. He just does it when he feels like it (big moments).

 

[Fn Lucci]

no thats what @Cinera was on about
zoro cut monets (logia) cheek with a flying haki slash

Good point, but strong characters deflect those same kinda slashes without a display of hardening

 

[Fuckthis3]

Btw i forgot to mention this a another thread made by a sanji fan but i thought the zoro fans was worrying to much about sanji @LuthonTheDragDown

 

[zzShinichi]

No, I mean he never coloured the Scabbards weapons black, and we know for a fact they can do it

We just gotta accept he's inconsistent with this crap. He just does it when he feels like it (big moments).

Dude, the scabbards's swords in the picture are coated in black

 

[uyuu]

The scabbards' swords also didn't blacken when they pierce Kaidou, did they? They were stated to have barrier haki nonetheless, so it doesn't matter if Zoro can't reach Luffy's level of Internal Destruction Armament, Luffy may never be able to apply his barrier armament to cut fire or use Asura either.

 

[kurohime]

Obvious

 

[Law-sama]

If he can learn Kinemon's technique I don't see why he can't learn advance haki

 

[Finalbeta]

If he can learn Kinemon's technique I don't see why he can't learn advance haki

Pretty much how things should be.

But most importantly, his Dressrosa flashback proved he had allegedly mastered his basic haki during the TS time, which means that the objective of the training was to augment it to another stage in that case.

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

How does Zoro word confirm that?

Author hinted us what Haki Luffy used since there are two, Emission and Internal.
So Zoro's words prove that Luffy used Emission Haki, not the internal since Hyogoro taught Luffy Emission Haki and at the same time it implies that he does not have that Haki.

Then let talk aboout his defence point, it seems like only top tiers where able to hurt him in the past, every damage with he take sofar come from ryu, do you think both Killer and Zoro hakiless attacks are above Kong Organ??? Because Kaido defense points is such great that even adv CoA punch of Kong Gun didn´t bother him much or give him much damage. Stop this headcanon pls.

False hype. Debunked already.
It's not that they couldn't injure him, it's that no one give him a lasting scar like Oden. But that hype as well was debunked since he never fought Prime WB nor Old WB, BM is like his older sister and he was an apprentice in Rocks. His hype is as fake as that fraud Mihawk.
At most he exchanged some blows with Yonko Shanks, but nothing like a long battle.

I explained why you can't compare a punch and a slash lol. The mosquito example is pretty self explanatory.
And Kaido used CoA as defence against G4 Luffy.

You say powerhouse, yet Kaido was sure to don´t getting hurt by simple blades, haki is important yet neither Killer or Zoro even USE haki on their attacks, it doesn´t make sense that they beeing able to cut Kaido while don´t even use haki while Luffy and the Scabbards with ryu barely scratch and hurt him.

Advanced Haki Emission is not something hax, holy shit. Is only an increase in AP.
You can increase your AP with stronger physical strength alone. That's why Trunks from DB despite not being able to use Haki would slice Kaido to atoms, because he has enough AP.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

False hype. Debunked already.

When??

It's not that they couldn't injure him, it's that no one give him a lasting scar like Oden. But that hype as well was debunked since he never fought Prime WB nor Old WB, BM is like his older sister and he was an apprentice in Rocks. His hype is as fake as that fraud Mihawk.

Where it get debunked, it said that he fought 18times against the Navy and other Yonkous and even get caught up, your point would speak against the fact with we get from the manga information.

I explained why you can't compare a punch and a slash lol. The mosquito example is pretty self explanatory.
And Kaido used CoA as defence against G4 Luffy.

Kid and Killer fought in previous battle with Kaido too, they where surprise that Luffy could hurt Kaido.
Kaido totally debunk any point of your with saying blades usually not hurt/give him a cut, when he get cut he directly say about ryu.
With means usually blades without ryu couldn´t hurt him in the past. So what is your point, your headcanon vs Kaido own state?

Advanced Haki Emission is not something hax, holy shit. Is only an increase in AP.

The first step yes, the second would be something like gammaknife with is simple a hax ability, destroying anything within, so your point is again totally false so move on.

You can increase your AP with stronger physical strength alone.

Yet the only few character who actually hurt Kaido where always people who could use Ryu, with means your point doesn´t make again nosense since their wasn´t any enemy who could hurt without a strong Ryu.

 

[yorosenpai]

Author hinted us what Haki Luffy used since there are two, Emission and Internal.
So Zoro's words prove that Luffy used Emission Haki, not the internal since Hyogoro taught Luffy Emission Haki and at the same time it implies that he does not have that Haki.


False hype. Debunked already.
It's not that they couldn't injure him, it's that no one give him a lasting scar like Oden. But that hype as well was debunked since he never fought Prime WB nor Old WB, BM is like his older sister and he was an apprentice in Rocks. His hype is as fake as that fraud Mihawk.
At most he exchanged some blows with Yonko Shanks, but nothing like a long battle.

I explained why you can't compare a punch and a slash lol. The mosquito example is pretty self explanatory.
And Kaido used CoA as defence against G4 Luffy.


Advanced Haki Emission is not something hax, holy shit. Is only an increase in AP.
You can increase your AP with stronger physical strength alone. That's why Trunks from DB despite not being able to use Haki would slice Kaido to atoms, because he has enough AP.

I ll come back in 1 year just to mock you

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

When??

When every fodder scabbards injured him, but none of them can give him a lasting scar.

Where it get debunked, it said that he fought 18times against the Navy and other Yonkous and even get caught up, your point would speak against the fact with we get from the manga information.

Yonko term appeared after Roger's death.
BM didn't see him in decades, he didn't fight against her.
WB didn't want to fight against him, and his words implies that he would get his revenge for Oden (killing him) but with many casualties.
The only one against he probably fought some rounds is Shanks, and it doesn't seem to be a long battle, a battle to death, etc.

So all that info was debunked, false hype.

Kid and Killer fought in previous battle with Kaido too, they where surprise that Luffy could hurt Kaido.
Kaido totally debunk any point of your with saying blades usually not hurt/give him a cut, when he get cut he directly say about ryu.
With means usually blades without ryu couldn´t hurt him in the past. So what is your point, your headcanon vs Kaido own state?

Killer is surprised because Luffy DAMAGED Kaido.
Damaging =/= hurting
I fucking explained already with the mosquito example, holy shit how didn't you get it. A simple mosquito can make you bleed (can hurt you because, it can pierce your skin) but the DAMAGE is INSIGNIFICANT. A kid fist would make more DAMAGE than that but it won't make you bleed.
If we assume that we have a health bar like Tekken/DB/etc characters in games, in the first example you won't be able to see with your eyes how the bar health decrease since the damage is trivial while you will be able to see how the bar decreases in the second example.

Killer and Zoro's attacks, as well as scabbards attack could hurt Kaido, could pierce his skin and make him bleed, but his bar health barely changed (mosquito bites) while Luffy's punch make his bar health decrease significantly in comparison with the others.

The first step yes, the second would be something like gammaknife with is simple a hax ability, destroying anything within, so your point is again totally false so move on.

Neither of them are hax. The internal attack still need to "clash" with the target's organs' durability, is not "zero". If the external defence has 100 points, the internal defence (organs, veins, etc) still have some points of defence, 15 let's say, or even more.

Yet the only few character who actually hurt Kaido where always people who could use Ryu, with means your point doesn´t make again nosense since their wasn´t any enemy who could hurt without a strong Ryu.

Explained already.

 

[XGoldrogeRX]

ofc he doesn't have it. ppl doesnt just jump around and suddenly has adv coa. even most genius fighter in the op verse (Luffy) need certain chapters to emphasized that he learn and struggle hard to get it. just like with future sight.
all the genious who say zoro has fs or he has better adv coa than luffy just need to get into the line to learn about process and effort.

zoro tickles kaido.. it's really sad. where all ZKK bandwagon go I wonder

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

ofc he doesn't have it. ppl doesnt just jump around and suddenly has adv coa. even most genius fighter in the op verse (Luffy) need certain chapters to emphasized that he learn and struggle hard to get it. just like with future sight.
all the genious who say zoro has fs or he has better adv coa than luffy just need to get into the line to learn about process and effort.

zoro tickles kaido.. it's really sad. where all ZKK bandwagon go I wonder

Nowhere