Questions & Mysteries Why Yonkou weapons are superior to Mihawk's weapon

[stealthblack]

Enma revealed that you can upgrade it's tier if you turn it black, so based on that mihawk blade only became one of the 12 after it became black, originally it was one of the 21.

WB's weapon is the true supreme grade sword that is that level without turning it black to upgrade it. Similar zoro's 21 grade swords from kuina, nidai kitetsu, enma will become supreme grade once they become black.

so wb's weapon > mihawk's weapon.

 

[Zowo]

so based on that mihawk blade only became one of the 12 after it became black, originally it was one of the 21.

how do you know that ? what if yoru was always a supreme but he made yoru a black blade

 

[stealthblack]

how do you know that ? what if yoru was always a supreme but he made yoru a black blade

making it black upgrades it's level, that is what the manga said. yoru starting as supreme, making it black would have made it in it's one class above the 12

 

[Dark Hound]

making it black upgrades it's level, that is what the manga said. yoru starting as supreme, making it black would have made it in it's one class above the 12

Or it would have stayed in the 12
The tiers are set and you can upgrade the tier of your blade by blackening it.
It's the swords that goes up not the tiers

 

[Mr. Anderson]

how do you know that ? what if yoru was always a supreme but he made yoru a black blade

Making a 21 grade blade black makes it supreme. If Mihawk's blade was originally supreme it would be a tier above. Which I doubt it is.

 

[Dark Hound]

Making a 21 grade blade black makes it supreme. If Mihawk's blade was originally supreme it would be a tier above. Which I doubt it is.

There's no tier above saijo o wazamono

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Based on the information we have so far, turning a black black increases the grade. A supreme blade would not stay Supreme if you turn it black lol

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There's no tier above saijo o wazamono

Which means it wasn't originally a surpreme blade. Because a higher tier doesn't exist.

 

[Cinera]

Enma revealed that you can upgrade it's tier if you turn it black, so based on that mihawk blade only became one of the 12 after it became black, originally it was one of the 21.

This is what you call a non sequitur:

In philosophy, a formal fallacy, deductive fallacy, logical fallacy or non sequitur[1] (Latin for "it does not follow") is a pattern of reasoning rendered invalid by a flaw in its logical structure that can neatly be expressed in a standard logic system, for example propositional logic.[2] It is defined as a deductive argument that is invalid. The argument itself could have true premises, but still have a false conclusion.[3] Thus, a formal fallacy is a fallacy where deduction goes wrong, and is no longer a logical process. This may not affect the truth of the conclusion, since validity and truth are separate in formal logic.

While a logical argument is a non sequitur if, and only if, it is invalid, the term "non sequitur" typically refers to those types of invalid arguments which do not constitute formal fallacies covered by particular terms (e.g. affirming the consequent). In other words, in practice, "non sequitur" refers to an unnamed formal fallacy.

 

[Zowo]

Based on the information we have so far, turning a black black increases the grade. A supreme blade would not stay Supreme if you turn it black lol

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Which means it wasn't originally a surpreme blade. Because a higher tier doesn't exist.

how do you know that oda is that you

 

[Dark Hound]

Based on the information we have so far, turning a black black increases the grade. A supreme blade would not stay Supreme if you turn it black lol

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Which means it wasn't originally a surpreme blade. Because a higher tier doesn't exist.

That makes zero sense

 

[Mr. Anderson]

how do you know that oda is that you

The blacksmith literally told Zoro turning your blade black increases it's Grade. It's why he said Emna would jump from on of the 21 to surpreme..

 

[Dark Hound]

Based on the information we have so far, turning a black black increases the grade. A supreme blade would not stay Supreme if you turn it black lol

The amount of retardation is extreme though

 

[Zowo]

The blacksmith literally told Zoro turning your blade black increases it's Grade. It's why he said Emna would jump from on of the 21 to surpreme..

so what s above a supreme blade what rank tell me

 

[Mr. Anderson]

The amount of retardation is extreme though

Nevermind. I misunderstood your original post. My bad.

 

[stealthblack]

it would be in a League of it's own alone. I know you zoro fans, but must you play stupid like him.

 

[Mr. Anderson]

it would be in a League of it's own alone.

Nah, they're right. It would be in a class of it's own in strength, but it would still be a supreme blade.

 

[stealthblack]

if that was the case then enma will never become supreme, it will be above the 21 in power but still considered one of the 21. he said rank, not power.

 

[Mr. Anderson]

if that was the case then enma will never become supreme, it will be above the 21 in power but still considered one of the 21. he said rank, not power.

Yeah, but there's no higher grade than Supreme. So it would still be listed as a Supreme blade in the blade tier

 

[Mr. Anderson]

There is no class above supreme blades. Thus a supreme blade that is made black would remain supreme.

Not gonna lie, i feel a little dumb right now lol

 

[Cinera]

Not gonna lie, i feel a little dumb right now lol

I thought you were trolling. I'm impressed that you admitted you're wrong and publicly changed your mind. You've earned my respect. 🤗