There are extremely well known Great Generals who would never be selected to lead the entire military system of a country.
I don't think it's a concidence that Hara had Kanki take him out. ONLY Kanki could have ever...
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If we are to take Genpou's hype literally, him being a mind on a level where he was capable of being the head of Zhao's entire military literally gives him top tier Great General portrayal lol.
There are extremely well known Great Generals who would never be selected to lead the entire military system of a country.
I don't think it's a concidence that Hara had Kanki take him out. ONLY Kanki could have ever...
God fucking damn, Greatjon Umber is a freaking monster in the books. He is as tall as Hodor (7 feet) but twice as large, he comes up in Jaime's thoughts when he lists a scant few fighters who are stronger than him (physically), and at the Red Wedding he literally drinks so much wine to kill three men, he's utterly drunk and yet EIGHT man are needed to restrain him - in that state he had literally taken the sword...
Honestly, even if the Qin center is wildly weakened at the moment thanks to Riboku's plan...Ousen is still fucking Ousen. Shibashou must truly be a beast of some special kind for Riboku to have decided to put him there, in that role.
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Someone here who has read Malazan, what are your personal thoughts on the series? I was thinking about reading it.
Maybe @TheKnightOfTheSea ?
Riboku checkmating Qin's entire plan on Northern Zhao - outplaying Ousen and Shouheikun, wiping out Kanki's army and despite Kanki's own brilliant (although situational) performance, killing one of the Qin Six - on the whole, it was a shocking performance.
At Chouhei, all Renpa's wall could do was keep at bay two of the Qin Six and turn the whole thing into a prolonged stalemate.
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Here’s a character we’ve never talked about: Ranbihaku. How strong y’all think he is?
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Imo, Hara having Ranbihaku clash evenly with Tou was all I needed to say he is a low-GG level fighter lol.
I'm really disappointed that Ordo is mediocre as he is.
Conceptually, he's one of the coolest generals in the manga. Someone from the plains who conquered 50 mountain tribes and became their King, an expert in mountain warfare.... too bad he's so scrubby
I had made the following post under @FutureWarrior123 profile short ago but I'll do it here again, tagging a few more folks and see what y'all think. So:
Given Hara's portrayal of and statements on Shouheikun's ludicrous ability, are we meant to view his talent as being overall > each member of the old Qin Six/Three Great Heavens? (In the manga).
Because that's kinda the impression I get.
Rinshoujo is one of those figures who Hara vehemently hyped and from whom we'll almost certainly never see a full fledged battle performance (sadly lol).
In the two instances where he was shown leading, Hara had this man move Ouki like he wanted and he seemed in complete control of the battle; in the other, RSJ was again making both foes and allies (Renpa) dancing to his tune.
Casual reminder that to this day, after hundreds of chapters and us having seen plenty of top tier generals, Hara still refuses to show Tou's true power.
I'm very scared for whoever Hara will pick as the foe against whom Tou will unleash.
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We had talked about this scenario a few times but man imagine if Hara really does give Riboku such a WILD respect that he outright refuses to have him meet his end on the battlefield and has him removed by his own state instead at the end (with then Zhao falling).
It'd be freaking insane, a foe's treatment completely unheard of.
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My prediction: Shibashou is a top tier instinctual general. Duke Hyou's instics were linked to a lion, Keisha's were linked to a spider, for Shibashou we'll have the tiger.
He must be a true monster for Riboku to have decided put him in front of Ousen. Insticts 99, outstanding officers, martially as strong as Man'U. Him being instinctual not only will be a problem for Ousen, this time it might also completely...
Koshou might have been the second strongest member of the old Qin Six. Like, man, being Qin's grand strategist and when you have got folks rumoring about the other Qin Six members being your appendages...that is pretty wild hype.
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Who do you guys think has the absolute strongest elite soldiers between Qin, Zhao and Chu?
Roughly equals I'd say? They are all very impressive.
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Reasons Shibashou is an EOS vassal of Ousen: (no historical spoilers as this is just my crackpot theory that I’m holding firm to)
I maintain that Genpou is the scariest Heavenly King, both by hype and by feats. Hara had to give Renpa that nerf by killing him lol, he was simply too strong to be brought into the end of Kingdom.
What if Chu's current second strongest commander is actually one of Kou En's vassals, who out of sheer loyalty for him decided to stay at his direct service and not to go on his own path?
That would be pretty insane because with Karin being Chu's head of military affairs, it means she's probably at least RSJ/Koshou level.
But I can potentially see that.
Rereading chapters 767-773, man the stakes for war and the emotional tension with that which Hara has put on everyone. From Bihei and the villagers to Shin/Kyoukai to Ouhon, talks about fear of death, about not coming back to loved ones, break or make dreams.
In the Zhao side it's felt even heavier, with its life on the line, Riboku's promise to come back to Ganmon and live his desired peaceful life [cont] -
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