Character Discussion EoS Zoro will NOT surpass or be comparable to Ryuma

Personally I think Zoro would be between god tiers like imu/Joyboy and PK tier like Roger , PWB. We shall see.
Lets look at Fundamental reality, currently and all the BS aside Haki is the gold standard for power scaling, which might change in the future but Kaido's established Haki Trumps All still applies.

AdvCoC is highest Level of Haki followed by AdvCoA followed by AdvCoO and it goes by the order in which main character learned these Hakis.

Zoro already has Two AdvForms of Hakis and is very close to Luffy.

Sanji is far below in the mud.

And Sanji's ceiling is bare minimum Yonko level but this Zoro being very close to Luffy and Sanji being far below in the mud would continue.

So Zoro would be able to low diff a Yonko EoS.
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Zoro has already surpassed Ryuma

the second strongest Wano samurai was YC2 and Ace level, at best Ryuma is YC1 level, or onpar with his fellow black blade wielder, Posthawk the YC5 level character
Oda really has Ruined his manga so bad that even most level headed posters are losing their sanity lmao.


2 months I have been gone, its turned into complete Insnae Assylum.
 
Lets look at Fundamental reality, currently and all the BS aside Haki is the gold standard for power scaling, which might change in the future but Kaido's established Haki Trumps All still applies.

AdvCoC is highest Level of Haki followed by AdvCoA followed by AdvCoO and it goes by the order in which main character learned these Hakis.

Zoro already has Two AdvForms of Hakis and is very close to Luffy.

Sanji is far below in the mud.

And Sanji's ceiling is bare minimum Yonko level but this Zoro being very close to Luffy and Sanji being far below in the mud would continue.

So Zoro would be able to low diff a Yonko EoS.
Both Luffy and Zoro will have highest level of haki possible in one piece. Luffy has god tier DF stacking which gives him and advantage. Zoro will have lethality advantage though.
 
Both Luffy and Zoro will have highest level of haki possible in one piece. Luffy has god tier DF stacking which gives him and advantage. Zoro will have lethality advantage though.
Luffy has DF and Zoro has 9 Swords and a Demon.
Equalize that with Haki
So both would be God Tiers


Even in the worst of his writing in Wano, Oda made Zoro only One Haki Behind Luffy. It is anytime now he learns Future Sight.

Meanwhile Sanji hasn't even sniffed proper hardening yet.
 
Luffy has DF and Zoro has 9 Swords and a Demon.
Equalize that with Haki
So both would be God Tiers


Even in the worst of his writing in Wano, Oda made Zoro only One Haki Behind Luffy. It is anytime now he learns Future Sight.

Meanwhile Sanji hasn't even sniffed proper hardening yet.
Be honest,do you actually think Zoro will ever be able to low diff a yonko? How will he prove this?
 
Truly a top tier attack.
Doesn't compare to the actual top of the meta(Ancient weapons). And still nothing about God tiers,so
Imu is already OP though. He can instantly create huge armies with devil contract. Gorosei are all using imu's powers. Joyboy was imu rival. Obvi it's my interpretation.

I do believe imu and JB are much stronger than PK tier like Roger/WB.
 
Potentially zoro can easily be PK to PK+ tier imo. Now whether we see eos zoro reach that stage or not is debatable.

Prime zoro bare minimum will be Peak human tier only behind god tiers like imu , nika , gods etc.
Ok, although I think it's a stretch since it is doubtful if Zoro will be stronger than people with bigger narrative importance than him (like Law, Sabo, Kidd, etc), I think Zoro reaching peak human tier is at least believable since that tier is so wide, anyway.

But Zoro reaching PK/PK+ tier? Now that's definitely reaching, man. Zoro will never get a chance to beat a Yonko, so it's already suspect if he will ever reach Yonko tier, let alone PK/PK+ tier.

Even Zoro's goal (Mihawk) was stopped by a YC3 and then a YC5. Even if you said that was PIS, there still is not enough narrative or power for Mihawk to show anything close to WB or Roger, for example, considering WB was able to destroy the world and Roger was able to fight him 1-on-1. I don't know how strong Mihawk will be written as, but he definitely isn't gonna be able to destroy the world.
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It was a direct statement. So you can argue with the guy that wrote the statement; Oda. Aka the writer of One Piece itself
All Lolda gave Mihawk is a statement. After almost 30 years. :josad:
 
Ok, although I think it's a stretch since it is doubtful if Zoro will be stronger than people with bigger narrative importance than him (like Law, Sabo, Kidd, etc), I think Zoro reaching peak human tier is at least believable since that tier is so wide, anyway.

But Zoro reaching PK/PK+ tier? Now that's definitely reaching, man. Zoro will never get a chance to beat a Yonko, so it's already suspect if he will ever reach Yonko tier, let alone PK/PK+ tier.

Even Zoro's goal (Mihawk) was stopped by a YC3 and then a YC5. Even if you said that was PIS, there still is not enough narrative or power for Mihawk to show anything close to WB or Roger, for example, considering WB was able to destroy the world and Roger was able to fight him 1-on-1. I don't know how strong Mihawk will be written as, but he definitely isn't gonna be able to destroy the world.
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All Lolda gave Mihawk is a statement. After almost 30 years. :josad:
I think you are severely downplaying Zoro and his potential. Let's see what happens then. At the it's all speculation.
 
I think you are severely downplaying Zoro and his potential. Let's see what happens then. At the it's all speculation.
It might seem sound like downplaying, but it is still true that there are people Zoro won't beat (like any of the Yonkos) that could build his case.

His only hope to be recognized at hovering around PK level is if he miraculously gets to fight and beat an Admiral (5% chance atp).
 
Be honest,do you actually think Zoro will ever be able to low diff a yonko? How will he prove this?
Well he can Low diff a YC1 right now
He nearly killed Lucci..yes nearly killed him in a single relatively low end attack.

And Luccis performance against final form of Luffy a Yonko was much better than YC1 level Luffys performance against Base and Weakest form of Kaido.

EoS Yonkou would be equivalent of YC1/Sanji/Law/Kidd
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It might seem sound like downplaying, but it is still true that there are people Zoro won't beat (like any of the Yonkos) that could build his case.

His only hope to be recognized at hovering around PK level is if he miraculously gets to fight and beat an Admiral (5% chance atp).
Bro shut the fuck already lmao.

Forget Zoro, a life long fodder to Zoro Sanji is also 100% beating an Admiral.

Imagine glazing Zoro for years and moving on the glazing characters Oda is setting up to lost to Sanji.
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Lolda gave Mihawk is a statement. After almost 30 years. :josad:
Joy Boys entire hype is based on statements too
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🤣 You're too funny
I have zero interest in overrating any character in form of entertainment i dont really find entertaining so i just speak the truth as it is.

Zoro will always get bare minimum 90% of special abilities or equivalent of that in combat.

Like he got AdvCoC and AdvCoA now, EoS what ever reality warping bullshit Oda comes up with that neg diffs Yonkou, Oda will find a way to latch that on to Zoro as well.
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His only hope to be recognized at hovering around PK level is if he miraculously gets to fight and beat an Admiral (5% chance atp).
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Bruh thinks beating an Admiral is an accomplishment. Id he severely disappointed if Marine Ford Colored trio in 1v3 can beat Zoro EoS.

Question is whether or not Zoro can take out an Admiral with pure CoC and considering how Shanks had Green Bull pissing his pants from CoC, EoS Zoros CoC easily kills at least an Admiral @MonsterKaido

Seriously bro said "Miraculously beats an Admiral" LMAOOOO HOLY MOTHER OR AUTISM 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅😅😅😅

Odas retarded writing as really turned everyone here into retard too

mIrAcUlOusLy bEaTs aN aDmIraL
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Ryuma was compared with wano Luffy not joyboy.

Strongest Human tiers - Roger , WB , Rocks etc i.e. highest level without god DFs

God level - Imu , Joyboy , possibly earth/Forest/Storm Gods.
Nobody is gonna take you seriously unless you start using the proper scaling… this isn’t dragon ball… use words correctly or no one will tee as ok to you
Ryuma is literally famous for slaying a dragon in Wano, not any Yokai's or whatever
No, it’s directly stated the legend of Wano samurai around the world was created by Ryuma’s total victory over the pirate and Celestial dragon invaders…

this is directly a statement in the manga saying Ryuma is famous for beating all the pirates and WG who came to Wano
 
His only hope to be recognized at hovering around PK level is if he miraculously gets to fight and beat an Admiral (5% chance atp).
Huh? Since when does beat an admiral require you to be pirate king? Akainu beat Kuzan and he ain’t pirate king tier… Kuzan thinks he needed help to beat Garp and old Garp ain’t pirate king tier…

you don’t think a Yonko tier can beat an admiral?

saying Zoro is NOT a Ryuma's parallel is a whole level of insult to Zoro
I already addressed that Zoro having visual similarities to Ryuma doesn’t mean they are actual parallels of one another in terms of story significance

like do you think Yasopp is an Usopp parallel? I mean they are both snipers and they are even related, so does that make them parallels? No right? Yasopp is Shanks’ third man, Usopp ain’t anywhere close to being Luffy’s third man… Usopp is a coward and nothing of the sort is true for Yasopp… see what I mean?

two characters having surface level similarities doesn’t make them parallels of one another on deeper level… Ryuma being the Hero of Wano immediately has more relevance as a parallel to Luffy as the other hero of Wano than anything Zoro has done
 
Huh? Since when does beat an admiral require you to be pirate king? Akainu beat Kuzan and he ain’t pirate king tier… Kuzan thinks he needed help to beat Garp and old Garp ain’t pirate king tier…
Akainu has a 5 billion bounty and killed WB, he is literally PK tier.

Kuzan went extreme diff against him, so he is PK tier also.

you don’t think a Yonko tier can beat an admiral?
Of course not.
 
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