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Alright but there was no need to shift the focus to Loki and Hajrudin's conversation and then come back to Sanji tho
Element of surprise or suspense keeps fans hooked. Thus, the shift of focus from Sanji to Loki to Sanji again.
Most likely he should.
But then, there is also a possibility that oda takes different path for him.
I'm pretty much neutral on this topic of CoC, and personally think Sanji could do without it if I'm being honest, coz irregardless of whether Sanji gets CoC or not, it's not really going to change the dynamics of the M3, neither will it affect Sanji's ceiling. Oda will simply just develop Sanji in a different way to keep the balance between the M3 (i.e. again perfect example of this CoC scenario is Law in relation to Luffy and Kidd). That said, like I already pointed out in the spoiler thread, Oda going out of his way to highlight this issue, I think, is evidence of the fact that he's aware of the discussions the fanbase are having with regards to this M3 CoC issue and the optics of just 2 of 3 of the M3 having CoC for better of for worse. If his intention was to leave Sanji behind, first and foremost the whole wings dynamic won't have even been a ting on Wano and there would have been no need to even highlight this issue this chapter.
Anybody that thinks Oda is just trolling Sanji for the sake of it is not really paying attention but I'm not surprised tbh. Mofos first and foremost, are more concerned with trying to validate their headcanons rather than reading the story
With regards to the question of whether Sanji gets CoC this arc though, I'd say his chances are looking pretty good.
- For one Gaban who is his parallel in the Roger Pirates has it
- Gaban's phrasing this chapter could've easily been "seems like one other person has it" rather it was "seems like more than one has it" and the panel singled out both Sanji and Zoro
- Oda highlighting this CoC issue with Sanji this arc
- Oda to our surprise only just confirming Zoro's CoC this arc and the latter only realising he has it here. Boggles the mind why Oda went this route of Zoro not realizing he had CoC till now but one reason could be that he wants to align it with when Sanji gets it.
- Seems the only known way to hurt Imu's Zombies is CoC
Anyways from a story-telling perspective route Oda is going with Sanji is very interesting as you never really know what Oda's going to do with him. Oda also seems to express far more freedom with him than the other 2 with regards to what he can do with the character
Anybody that thinks Oda is just trolling Sanji for the sake of it is not really paying attention but I'm not surprised tbh. Mofos first and foremost, are more concerned with trying to validate their headcanons rather than reading the story
With regards to the question of whether Sanji gets CoC this arc though, I'd say his chances are looking pretty good.
- For one Gaban who is his parallel in the Roger Pirates has it
- Gaban's phrasing this chapter could've easily been "seems like one other person has it" rather it was "seems like more than one has it" and the panel singled out both Sanji and Zoro
- Oda highlighting this CoC issue with Sanji this arc
- Oda to our surprise only just confirming Zoro's CoC this arc and the latter only realising he has it here. Boggles the mind why Oda went this route of Zoro not realizing he had CoC till now but one reason could be that he wants to align it with when Sanji gets it.
- Seems the only known way to hurt Imu's Zombies is CoC
Anyways from a story-telling perspective route Oda is going with Sanji is very interesting as you never really know what Oda's going to do with him. Oda also seems to express far more freedom with him than the other 2 with regards to what he can do with the character
I'm pretty much neutral on this topic of CoC, and personally think Sanji could do without it if I'm being honest, coz irregardless of whether Sanji gets CoC or not, it's not really going to change the dynamics of the M3, neither will it affect Sanji's ceiling. Oda will simply just develop Sanji in a different way to keep the balance between the M3 (i.e. again perfect example of this CoC scenario is Law in relation to Luffy and Kidd). That said, like I already pointed out in the spoiler thread, Oda going out of his way to highlight this issue, I think, is evidence of the fact that he's aware of the discussions the fanbase are having with regards to this M3 CoC issue and the optics of just 2 of 3 of the M3 having CoC for better of for worse. If his intention was to leave Sanji behind, first and foremost the whole wings dynamic won't have even been a ting on Wano and there would have been no need to even highlight this issue this chapter.
Anybody that thinks Oda is just trolling Sanji for the sake of it is not really paying attention but I'm not surprised tbh. Mofos first and foremostm, are more concerned with trying to validate their headcanons rather than reading the story
With regards to the question of whether Sanji gets CoC this arc though, I'd say his chances are looking pretty good.
- For one Gaban who is his parallel in the Roger Pirates has it
- Gaban's phrasing this chapter could've easily been "seems like one other person has it" rather it was "seems like more than one has it" and the panel singled out both Sanji and Zoro
- Oda highlighting this CoC issue with Sanji this arc
- Oda to our surprise only just confirming Zoro's CoC this arc and the latter only realising he has it here. Boggles the mind why Oda went this route of Zoro not realizing he had CoC till now but one reason could be that he wants to align it with when Sanji gets it.
Anways from a story-telling perspective route Oda is going with Sanji is very interesting as you never really know what Oda's going to do with him. Oda also seems to express far more freedom with him than the other 2 with regards to what he can do with the character
Anybody that thinks Oda is just trolling Sanji for the sake of it is not really paying attention but I'm not surprised tbh. Mofos first and foremostm, are more concerned with trying to validate their headcanons rather than reading the story
With regards to the question of whether Sanji gets CoC this arc though, I'd say his chances are looking pretty good.
- For one Gaban who is his parallel in the Roger Pirates has it
- Gaban's phrasing this chapter could've easily been "seems like one other person has it" rather it was "seems like more than one has it" and the panel singled out both Sanji and Zoro
- Oda highlighting this CoC issue with Sanji this arc
- Oda to our surprise only just confirming Zoro's CoC this arc and the latter only realising he has it here. Boggles the mind why Oda went this route of Zoro not realizing he had CoC till now but one reason could be that he wants to align it with when Sanji gets it.
Anways from a story-telling perspective route Oda is going with Sanji is very interesting as you never really know what Oda's going to do with him. Oda also seems to express far more freedom with him than the other 2 with regards to what he can do with the character
Haven't read the scans yet (only the raws) but a lot of things usually get lost in translation, isn't per say the fault of the translators coz sometimes for flow you kinda have to just paraphrase to make it sound more natural in english. Translators usually also have their own rules as well. For instance, Viz doesn't translate honorifics which is a shame coz I think it hurts perception of character dynamics etc. if you're only consuming the TLs.
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The Sanji panels between the Loki interruption are weird. It sure means that Sanji and Gyaban were talking and Oda decided to left it out on purpose.
Considering how Sanji behaves after that, in a pretty normal way, it not seems like Gyaban denied the possible conqueror haki in him. By the way I like this situation, it makes Sanji aware of the "lack" of something. This is a great opportunity to show how he will handle it. At this point I really hope Oda is going to reveal his conqueror haki as a big moment this arc. Considering the rivalry with Zoro "started" on little garden and now we are in the country of giants it makes sense.
Will we have some inner moments from Sanji? After Wano everything is possible, there is always been a conflict inside Sanji. I read somewhere the wrong word: Unlock. Maybe something I used it too, but we know that you are born with it, if you are not than you do not have it. So will Sanji awaken it? I'm pretty sure yes and I can't wait. I wonder if this time Sanji will aknowledge he is "lacking" this new power that it seems really a must have for fighting holy knights.
@PuckTheGreat If I remember correctly you're japanese right? Or at least you know japanese. I wonder if you know what japanese fans think about Sanji and this conqueror thing (of course you can't be inside the head of every single one, but at least a general consensus or what you are feeling) . Do they think Sanji has it? Do they think he has not?
EDIT: I forgot about one thing. Seems funny how Gyaban aknowledge Zoro more than Sanji. Of course he has seen Zoro fighting with CoC, so Gyaban thinks probably that Zoro is number 2 as Gyaban sees himself in the Roger crew. So even if he's harsh to Zoro, still Gyaban gives him more attention (at least initially). Will Sanji shows that he's capable of being "number 2" too Gyaban too?
Considering how Sanji behaves after that, in a pretty normal way, it not seems like Gyaban denied the possible conqueror haki in him. By the way I like this situation, it makes Sanji aware of the "lack" of something. This is a great opportunity to show how he will handle it. At this point I really hope Oda is going to reveal his conqueror haki as a big moment this arc. Considering the rivalry with Zoro "started" on little garden and now we are in the country of giants it makes sense.
Will we have some inner moments from Sanji? After Wano everything is possible, there is always been a conflict inside Sanji. I read somewhere the wrong word: Unlock. Maybe something I used it too, but we know that you are born with it, if you are not than you do not have it. So will Sanji awaken it? I'm pretty sure yes and I can't wait. I wonder if this time Sanji will aknowledge he is "lacking" this new power that it seems really a must have for fighting holy knights.
@PuckTheGreat If I remember correctly you're japanese right? Or at least you know japanese. I wonder if you know what japanese fans think about Sanji and this conqueror thing (of course you can't be inside the head of every single one, but at least a general consensus or what you are feeling) . Do they think Sanji has it? Do they think he has not?
EDIT: I forgot about one thing. Seems funny how Gyaban aknowledge Zoro more than Sanji. Of course he has seen Zoro fighting with CoC, so Gyaban thinks probably that Zoro is number 2 as Gyaban sees himself in the Roger crew. So even if he's harsh to Zoro, still Gyaban gives him more attention (at least initially). Will Sanji shows that he's capable of being "number 2" too Gyaban too?
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I'm not Japanese but I've lived her for a minute and can speak the language for the most part ^^
I do watch Japanese Youtubers though and although I can't speak for all them, the ones I watch expect him to have it and always bring up the wings ting as a justification for it saying it'd be a bit off if one wing has it and the other doesn't. Most also assumed Gaban had CoC from the moment he used it on Luffy btw in his intro chapter btw, and none of the ones I watch regularly are even Sanji fans per say (hell one in particular is even a Zoro fan) so goes to show just how much agenda is rotting the english fanbase
On this issue, I don't really think this is what it is.
Personally the way I saw that panel was that Gaban expects much more of Zoro hence why he was so strict with him. He was probably comparing him to Rayleigh when he scolded him. SHs are gonna go even further than the Roger Pirates so Luffy's boys need to up the ante given the kinda powerhouses they are gonna have to face in the future. Personally thought it was a good character moment for Zoro and one that will allow him to grow something I feel he's lacked since the TS.
Gaban doesn't really have any reason to treat Sanji any different than he would the regular SH tbh. He's also interacted with Zoro more than Sanji as of now.
I do watch Japanese Youtubers though and although I can't speak for all them, the ones I watch expect him to have it and always bring up the wings ting as a justification for it saying it'd be a bit off if one wing has it and the other doesn't. Most also assumed Gaban had CoC from the moment he used it on Luffy btw in his intro chapter btw, and none of the ones I watch regularly are even Sanji fans per say (hell one in particular is even a Zoro fan) so goes to show just how much agenda is rotting the english fanbase
On this issue, I don't really think this is what it is.
Personally the way I saw that panel was that Gaban expects much more of Zoro hence why he was so strict with him. He was probably comparing him to Rayleigh when he scolded him. SHs are gonna go even further than the Roger Pirates so Luffy's boys need to up the ante given the kinda powerhouses they are gonna have to face in the future. Personally thought it was a good character moment for Zoro and one that will allow him to grow something I feel he's lacked since the TS.
Gaban doesn't really have any reason to treat Sanji any different than he would the regular SH tbh. He's also interacted with Zoro more than Sanji as of now.
It is only a matter of time, Sanji is definitely getting CoC and defeating Sommers. Evil Sanji vs Zoro is also more probable than ever. Really hyped for the rest of the arc 
Where is Jozu? Is Diamond Lafitte real?
Where is Jozu? Is Diamond Lafitte real?
Plus Majin Brogy would be way more hype to fight
Though Sommers would be a better written fight
To be honest there's no one else who's strong enough to keep those two in check anyway. I don't believe Loki will fight them since he seems to have business with Imu, same for Luffy, and Hajrudin wouldn't even be able to sniff them before they kill his ass.
Since the two bonafide top tiers will be busy, and Hajrudin will be busy being a slack jawed bum, Zoro and Sanji are definitely going to have to stop Majin Dorry and Brogy's rampage.
Since the two bonafide top tiers will be busy, and Hajrudin will be busy being a slack jawed bum, Zoro and Sanji are definitely going to have to stop Majin Dorry and Brogy's rampage.
If he makes them get Domi Reversied and then has them resist it I'm flying off a rooftop
Also off topic but figured I'd drop this post here just so the people in this thread know I was never against Sanji getting Conq Haki
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/bet-will-sanji-unlock-coc-in-elbaf.65255/post-5960433
'Cause I know for a fact that once he does there's gonna be a shit ton of spam pinging lmao
Also off topic but figured I'd drop this post here just so the people in this thread know I was never against Sanji getting Conq Haki
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/bet-will-sanji-unlock-coc-in-elbaf.65255/post-5960433
'Cause I know for a fact that once he does there's gonna be a shit ton of spam pinging lmao
I wonder what did Gaban told Sanji here
Judging by Sanji's reaction, Gaban might've denied he has CoC, or he told something Sanji couldn't understand. Anyways, one things is certain: He will have to grow from that somehow to awaken his Conquerors.
Excited to see what this arc has stored for Sanji
Judging by Sanji's reaction, Gaban might've denied he has CoC, or he told something Sanji couldn't understand. Anyways, one things is certain: He will have to grow from that somehow to awaken his Conquerors.
Excited to see what this arc has stored for Sanji