Powers & Abilities Adv CoC is a requirement for Admiral rank

Which is it?

  • Admirals have CoC

  • Admirals have no CoC <--- 2 digit IQ people vote here


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no.... no it doesn't :okay:

Sengoku, a confirmed Conquerer was sweating the most when Luffy used it. A Vice Admiral also said that it's no surprise Luffy has it because he's son of Dragon, a confirmed former marine. In general, most factions don't "usually have CoC". If a rookie from Paradise used CoC, the Beasts Pirates would definitely have somewhat similar reactions



:MonkeWhat:
Aokiji has a busted DF, while Koby has no DF at all. Obviously he is more likely to have CoC than Kuzan is since a regular human becoming a top tier without any DF and without any CoC is just impossible
 
no.... no it doesn't :okay:

Sengoku, a confirmed Conquerer was sweating the most when Luffy used it. A Vice Admiral also said that it's no surprise Luffy has it because he's son of Dragon, a confirmed former marine. In general, most factions don't "usually have CoC". If a rookie from Paradise used CoC, the Beasts Pirates would definitely have somewhat similar reactions



:MonkeWhat:
Confirmed only in VC which are hit or miss in terms of accuracy

He said usually Marines don't have it, Garp and his son Dragon are obvious exceptions, they aren't the Gorosei's slaves like the Admirals are
 
Personally I'd say no. Too many Conquerors on one side is usually a bad thing, and something to avoid.
That said, I think some Admirals do have it even though none have shown it yet.
 
a lot of characters can hav basic coqs what matters is the advance version which I don’t see a lot more characters getting.
it also seems like every arc since wano oda is trying to stack coc users on luffys side to match imu elders and hk in the future
Zoro is literally using ACoC without even doing the "basic CoC". Not only not doing it, but not even knowing that he has it. Some of you are literally reading too much into this shit, that Oda made up last minute.

Having and being able to control CoC will be basically = "ACoC". Watch Sanji will immediately use it just like Zoro and Luffy.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Still wondering why people believe Oda will shit on some of his favorite characters and real life people. The lengths people go to to downplay the role of the Admirals is pretty insane. Sengoku was randomly revealed to be COC user despite not showing it once still, but its heresy for the Admirals to have it.
 
Still wondering why people believe Oda will shit on some of his favorite characters and real life people. The lengths people go to to downplay the role of the Admirals is pretty insane. Sengoku was randomly revealed to be COC user despite not showing it once still, but its hierarchy for the Admirals to have it.
I think you used the wrong word when you said hierarchy
Also I don't think every Admiral absolutely NEEDS Conq Haki, they're already pretty strong as is. Plus some just dont have a conqueror mentality (i.e Kizaru).
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
Still wondering why people believe Oda will shit on some of his favorite characters and real life people. The lengths people go to to downplay the role of the Admirals is pretty insane. Sengoku was randomly revealed to be COC user despite not showing it once still, but its hierarchy for the Admirals to have it.
Did you believe the admirals will all have CoC prior to this chapter yes or no.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Them not having CoC isn't Oda shitting on them

This is Oda shitting on them
I refer you to this post below
Kaido can be a drunk with PTSD, and tries taking his own life when his willpower gets low

BM can be mentally unstable and turn into a crying mess

Saturn can fear and beg for his life

BB can fear and beg for his life

Ace can be depressed and wish he'd never had been born

Garp can waiver and not commit to any of his convictions.

Oden can degrade himself and dance in the streets

Luffy can be shattered and almost quit piracy

All of it is OK. But lord help if an admiral shows the slightest bit of a slip up.
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Did you believe the admirals will all have CoC prior to this chapter yes or no.
I've never taken a stance that the admirals will or will not have COC cause it didn't matter. It was always maybe or maybe not. Either they were COC users, or their abilities are good enough to compete with COC users. You can see me using this stance in Garp vs Kuzan debates.

As things stand now, there's no objective argument to say the admirals will not have COC. That is entirely subjective. You can however, make a case that they will have it.
 
I refer you to this post below


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I've never taken a stance that the admirals will or will not have COC. It was always maybe or maybe not. Either they were COC users, or their abilities are good enough to compete with COC users. You can see me using this stance in Garp vs Kuzan debates.

As things stand now, there's no objective argument to say the admirals will not have COC. That is entirely subjective. You can however, make a case that they will have it.
To be fair about Garp he did try to assassinate Sakazuki after he killed Ace. It's dumb he only moved then but it does show he was willing to help Ace even if it meant being targeted by the government
 
Zoro is literally using ACoC without even doing the "basic CoC". Not only not doing it, but not even knowing that he has it. Some of you are literally reading too much into this shit, that Oda made up last minute.

Having and being able to control CoC will be basically = "ACoC". Watch Sanji will immediately use it just like Zoro and Luffy.
Sounds good but zoro literally knocked out ppl once in the anime and again against king luffys been knocking out ppl since post time skip also I wasn’t even thinking about sanji 🫤
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Very informative, what does it have to do with my post though?
Part of me believes you're being slow on purpose. The other part thinks you're genuinely that slow. Incase it's the latter, reactions doesn't determine whether you're a COC user or that Oda loves to shit on you.

To be fair about Garp he did try to assassinate Sakazuki after he killed Ace. It's dumb he only moved then but it does show he was willing to help Ace even if it meant being targeted by the government
Point is that reactions isn't a factor nor argument to determine who has COC or not.
 
Part of me believes you're being slow on purpose. The other part thinks you're genuinely that slow. Incase it's the latter, reactions doesn't determine whether you're a COC user or that Oda loves to shit on you.



Point is that reactions isn't a factor nor argument to determine who has COC or not.
Read the post you responded to again, maybe you'll get it this time:MonkeWhat:
 
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