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I need Sanji's opponent to have the diamond fruit :hope:

A diamond cape/cane/belt/crown/armor would be good enough but the issue is objects cannot "eat" paramecia. Green blood is required for that.
My only hope for a diamond opponent is Diamond Lafitte, the sole guy without a confirmed DF



If Sanji can generate fire, Lafitte can grow a pair of wings while being DFless :sighting:

BB and his crew are the best DF hunters in the world, you can't convince me they didn't even manage to steal a single fruit from the WB pirates :parkcry:

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Real talk though, on the diamond fruit, I think that ship has sailed tbh :risisweat:
Said this before but think the Blackbeard pirates are prioritizing synergy over how powerful abilities are on paper, hence why their epithets match their fruits. Can see burgess with the diamond fruit but doesn’t really suit Lafitte imo.
My guess is that he currently already has a mythical zoan angel fruit, so would love it if his staff ate something like the curse curse fruit which would make him akin to a magician of sorts but that would probably overlap with Doc Q. Given Laffite is the ‘demon sheriff’ would be dope if his hypothetical second df had something to do with judgment/punishment ^^
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I think Shiryu will have two DFs (one in his sword) and Lafitte will have one strong devil fruit plus a special bloodline ability tbh
That’s a possibility ^^
What type of special bloodline ability are you thinking?
 
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I don't know about Lafitte. He doesn't fit Sanji's opponents' usual personality, they're all goofy, loud and don't know how to shut the bloody hell up. Kuroobi is the only exception and that was before Oda established a pattern (Sanji had just joined the crew, back then). Not that it would bother me if Lafitte was his opponent, but I don't know if Oda is willing to break his pattern, nor do I see why he'd do it.

The only ones who seem to be the exuberant/attention-seeking type are Burgess and Pizarro.
 

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Real talk though, on the diamond fruit, I think that ship has sailed tbh :risisweat:
Said this before but think the Blackbeard pirates are prioritizing synergy over how powerful abilities are on paper, hence why their epithets match their fruits. Can see burgess with the diamond fruit but doesn’t really suit Lafitte imo.
My guess is that he currently already has a mythical zoan angel fruit, so would love it if his staff ate something like the curse curse fruit which would make him akin to a magician of sorts but that would probably overlap with Doc Q. Given Laffite is the ‘demon sheriff’ would be dope if his hypothetical second df had something to do with judgment/punishment ^^
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That’s a possibility ^^
What type of special bloodline ability are you thinking?
Unsure. Lafittes wings are weird to me. His clothes didn’t transform to fit them like zoan wings do for Marcos and Kings nor does any other part of him transform like Marco and king do so maybe he’s some kinda moon race? Even then the fact that he can fly is odd as well

I hope his hypnosis isn’t connected to his fruit though
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I don't know about Lafitte. He doesn't fit Sanji's opponents' usual personality, they're all goofy, loud and don't know how to shut the bloody hell up. Kuroobi is the only exception and that was before Oda established a pattern (Sanji had just joined the crew, back then). Not that it would bother me if Lafitte was his opponent, but I don't know if Oda is willing to break his pattern, nor do I see why he'd do it.

The only ones who seem to be the exuberant/attention-seeking type are Burgess and Pizarro.
Lafittes the same kinda loud as Bentham and Absalom were.

He talks big and acts like he’s always in charge, even saying he’ll kill Pizarro if he tries to stage a coup.
 
I need Sanji's opponent to have the diamond fruit :hope:

A diamond cape/cane/belt/crown/armor would be good enough but the issue is objects cannot "eat" paramecia. Green blood is required for that.
My only hope for a diamond opponent is Diamond Lafitte, the sole guy without a confirmed DF



If Sanji can generate fire, Lafitte can grow a pair of wings while being DFless :sighting:

BB and his crew are the best DF hunters in the world, you can't convince me they didn't even manage to steal a single fruit from the WB pirates :parkcry:
I think the fruit-weapon thing only works with Zoans since Zoans are said to have a will of their own in a way
 
I don't know about Lafitte. He doesn't fit Sanji's opponents' usual personality, they're all goofy, loud and don't know how to shut the bloody hell up. Kuroobi is the only exception and that was before Oda established a pattern (Sanji had just joined the crew, back then). Not that it would bother me if Lafitte was his opponent, but I don't know if Oda is willing to break his pattern, nor do I see why he'd do it.

The only ones who seem to be the exuberant/attention-seeking type are Burgess and Pizarro.
Pizarro vs Sanji is locked in
 
Unsure. Lafittes wings are weird to me. His clothes didn’t transform to fit them like zoan wings do for Marcos and Kings nor does any other part of him transform like Marco and king do so maybe he’s some kinda moon race? Even then the fact that he can fly is odd as well

I hope his hypnosis isn’t connected to his fruit though
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Lafittes the same kinda loud as Bentham and Absalom were.

He talks big and acts like he’s always in charge, even saying he’ll kill Pizarro if he tries to stage a coup.
He seems very calm and collected, not the type to run his mouth unnecessarily or draw people's attention with his antics. Putting Pizarro in his place when he's actually the one who was cocky and ran his mouth, doesn't really qualify as an example of Lafitte talking big or acting like he's in charge imo.

Burgess and Pizarro are way more similar to Bon Clay, Jabra, Absalom (although I never considered him one of Sanji's main opponents because he didn't truly defeat him) and Queen.
 
He seems very calm and collected, not the type to run his mouth unnecessarily or draw people's attention with his antics. Putting Pizarro in his place when he's actually the one who was cocky and ran his moutn, doesn't really qualify as an example of Lafitte talking big or acting like he's in charge imo.

Burgess and Pizarro are way more similar to Bon Clay, Jabra, Absalom (although I never considered him one of Sanji's main opponents because he didn't truly defeat him) and Queen.
I disagree. I think Lafittes a better example. Burgess and Pizarro are more like Who’s who. And more importantly neither fit the power dynamic that oda uses for Sanjis opponents. His main opponents all use deception as a primary ability:
Bon clays transformation
Jabras lies
Absaloms invisibility
Queens invisibility

And so forth. The island and strength powers don’t work with that. However the hypnosis that Lafitte uses and his personality both fit perfectly.
 
I disagree. I think Lafittes a better example. Burgess and Pizarro are more like Who’s who. And more importantly neither fit the power dynamic that oda uses for Sanjis opponents. His main opponents all use deception as a primary ability:
Bon clays transformation
Jabras lies
Absaloms invisibility
Queens invisibility

And so forth. The island and strength powers don’t work with that. However the hypnosis that Lafitte uses and his personality both fit perfectly.
I don't know about that, I feel like Pizarro's ability is actually really well-suited for deception. He can marge with an island, appear absolutely anywhere he wants at any time and he can be hard to find. He's also a showman who likes to be under the spotlight and wants to be talked about in newspapers, which reminds me of Queen.

I agree Burgess' power is very straightforward and not really suited for deception, but we can say the exact same thing about Jabra. It's not his power that makes him a trickster, it's his personality, so it doesn't have to be a power-based thing. Granted, wolfs are often associated with treachery, but the only thing Jabra's Zoan functionally does is give him more physical strength, it's only his lies that make him a trickster. There's no telling Burgess doesn't have that personality trait.

I have no idea who Lafitte is gonna fight, but in terms of personality, he's kinda similar to Black Maria. Calm, but always wears a smile alluding to their sadistic nature, as they both have a thing for torture. Doesn't mean he's gonna fight Robin, but I think it's interesting they have a similar nickname.
 
I don't know about that, I feel like Pizarro's ability is actually really well-suited for deception. He can marge with an island, appear absolutely anywhere he wants at any time and he can be hard to find. He's also a showman who likes to be under the spotlight and wants to be talked about in newspapers, which reminds me of Queen.

I agree Burgess' power is very straightforward and not really suited for deception, but we can say the exact same thing about Jabra. It's not his power that makes him a trickster, it's his personality, so it doesn't have to be a power-based thing. Granted, wolfs are often associated with treachery, but the only thing Jabra's Zoan functionally does is give him more physical strength, it's only his lies that make him a trickster. There's no telling Burgess doesn't have that personality trait.

I have no idea who Lafitte is gonna fight, but in terms of personality, he's kinda similar to Black Maria. Calm, but always wears a smile alluding to their sadistic nature, as they both have a thing for torture. Doesn't mean he's gonna fight Robin, but I think it's interesting they have a similar nickname.
I don’t see the island fruit as deceptive. Honestly once we saw Pizarros fruit I figured it was clear he’s not a Sanji opponent. The fruits ability isn’t built for a Sanji fight as it’s too straight forward with its use.

Sanjis fights always have a bit of strategy involved in it. The only fight that fits this is the Lafitte fight. And the Lafitte fight works with the pudding subplot as well as the navigator (Lafitte) will be the one working with pudding trying to force her to read the poneglyphs so he can make a map to Raftel.
 
I don’t see the island fruit as deceptive. Honestly once we saw Pizarros fruit I figured it was clear he’s not a Sanji opponent. The fruits ability isn’t built for a Sanji fight as it’s too straight forward with its use.

Sanjis fights always have a bit of strategy involved in it. The only fight that fits this is the Lafitte fight. And the Lafitte fight works with the pudding subplot as well as the navigator (Lafitte) will be the one working with pudding trying to force her to read the poneglyphs so he can make a map to Raftel.
I disagree about Pizarro's DF not being potentially deceptive, but even if it's not, what's deceptive about Jabra's Zoan? The CP9 member who actually had a deceptive power was Blueno and he wasn't Sanji's opponent. That alone defeats the idea that the power itself has to be deceptive for a character to be Sanji's opponent.

I feel like Pizarro's DF has a lot of potential for a strategic fight, it's really not as basic an ability as you seem to think it is. He can hide, can appear anywhere and attack his targets from behind or anywhere else, can even potentially threaten someone else's life to distract his opponents or blackmail them to force them to hold back, etc.
 
Why Laffite is Sanji's opponent:
- Rank
Staff Officer / Chief of Staff of the Blackbeard Pirates (i.e. in OP characters with similar titles are usally top 2/3 in the crew)
Coincidentally this is also Sanji's hypothetical position in the Strawhats

- Portrayal
1. vs Pizarro
①Pre-Ts, when Pizarro threatened to steal Teach's position and and become the new Captain of the BB Pirates, Lafitte threatened to kill him setting the record straight that they are the "Blackbeard Pirates". Fast-Forward Post-Ts and Pizarro is completely subservient to Teach.
②Post-Ts, even though Lafitte was the one that plotted to steal Aokiji's fruit, he wasn't caught up in Aokiji's attack afterwards, where as Piss-aro was frozen stiff like the bum he is.

2. vs Burgess
①Pre-Ts, when the Blackbeard Pirates fought Ace, with the exception of Blackbeard, out of the original 5, Lafitte was the only BB Pirate that did not recklessly attack Ace and conicdentally was the only one that evaded Ace's insuing counter attack with what looked to be a soru like movement whereas the other BB Pirates, Teach included were caught up in it
②Post-Ts after Dressrosa when Burgess called Shiryu and Lafitte to inform them that he was able to sneak into Bartigo, he referred to Teach by his first name, which resulted in Laffite scolding the later to properly refer to him with his title. This scene was very remniscent of King and Queen scolding Jack during their introduction on Wano btw

3. Others
① I don't think it is and overstatement to say that when Lafitte takes action and goes on one of his solo missions for the Blackbeard Pirates, it has major implications on the overarching plot of One Piece. First time he did this was during his very introduction in the series when he invaded the Shichibukai meeting on Marijoea to recommend Teach for the empty Shichibukai position and this resulted in the invasion of Impel Down which flowed into the War of the Best. Now post-ts we know he's again taking action for the Blackbeard Pirates to do something in and around Marijoea and then we hear from Imu in the most recent chapters that Marijoea is on fire and that it needs backup. What are the chances are that Lafitte has a hand in that?
② The initial setting in his Vivre card was by far the most comprehensive of all of Teach's subordinates, Shiryu included and this initial setting feature a man name Silver who was being recruited as a "partner" by a figure who appeared to be Blackbeard from what appeared to be Whitebeard's Ship. At the time Silver who bears a striking resemblance to Lafitte was on what appeared to be Whitebeard's ship.
③Lafitte is a flight zoan, a very rare type of Zoan Fruit which Oda himself stated there were only 5 of very early on in the series.
Examples of characters with said type include folks like Marco and King. Also keep in mind that even if the number was retconned by Oda, Lafitte was one of the very first characters introduced with it so even if it was retconned, chances are that it was after Lafitte's introduction

- Abilities
Most of Sanji's opponents usually have some sort of hax/trickery about them they makes them hard to put down.
Lafitte unlike Burgess for instance who's a muscle head, uses hypnosis which could potentially be a very tricky ability to fight against. For instance even if Lafitte doesn't use the ability directly on Sanji, if he uses it on a woman let's say Pudding or Nami against Sanji then it's GG for Sanji

- Personality
Even though Lafitte seems to have a calm and collected personality. We are still yet to see his "brutality" which is why he's called the "Demon Sheriff" in the first place so there's most likely an extra layer to him
 
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I disagree about Pizarro's DF not being potentially deceptive, but even if it's not, what's deceptive about Jabra's Zoan? The CP9 member who actually had a deceptive power was Blueno and he wasn't Sanji's opponent. That alone defeats the idea that the power itself has to be deceptive for a character to be Sanji's opponent.

I feel like Pizarro's DF has a lot of potential for a strategic fight, it's really not as basic an ability as you seem to think it is. He can hide, can appear anywhere and attack his targets from behind or anywhere else, can even potentially threaten someone else's life to distract his opponents or blackmail them to force them to hold back, etc.
Jabras personality was deceptive. He would lie and trick individuals to gain advantages in combat. Then Sanji won by pulling him into a trap.

Pizarros entire body is the island, there’s nothing deceptive about it. He can’t hide in it, because you can punch or kick anywhere and burn him.
 
Why Laffite is Sanji's opponent:
- Rank
Staff Officer / Chief of Staff of the Blackbeard Pirates (i.e. in OP characters with similar titles are usally top 2/3 in the crew)
Coincidentally this is also Sanji's hypothetical position in the Strawhats

- Portrayal
1. vs Pizarro
①Pre-Ts, when Pizarro threatened to steal Teach's position and and become the new Captain of the BB Pirates, Lafitte threatened to kill him setting the record straight that they are the "Blackbeard Pirates". Fast-Forward Post-Ts and Pizarro is completely subservient to Teach.
②Post-Ts, even though Lafitte was the one that plotted to steal Aokiji's fruit, he wasn't caught up in Aokiji's attack afterwards, where as Piss-aro was frozen stiff like the bum he is.

2. vs Burgess
①Pre-Ts, when the Blackbeard Pirates fought Ace, with the exception of Blackbeard, out of the original 5, Lafitte was the only BB Pirate that did not recklessly attack Ace and conicdentally was the only one that evaded Ace's insuing counter attack with what looked to be a soru like movement whereas the other BB Pirates, Teach included were caught up in it
②Post-Ts after Dressrosa when Burgess called Shiryu and Lafitte to inform them that he was able to sneak into Bartigo, he referred to Teach by his first name, which resulted in Laffite scolding the later to properly refer to him with his title. This scene was very remniscent of King and Queen scolding Jack during their introduction on Wano btw

3. Others
① I don't think it is and overstatement to say that when Lafitte takes action and goes on one of his solo missions for the Blackbeard Pirates, it has major implications on the overarching plot of One Piece. First time he did this was during his very introduction in the series when he invaded the Shichibukai meeting on Marijoea to recommend Teach for the empty Shichibukai position and this resulted in the invasion of Impel Down which flowed into the War of the Best. Now post-ts we know he's again taking action for the Blackbeard Pirates to do something in and around Marijoea and then we hear from Imu in the most recent chapters that Marijoea is on fire and that it needs backup. What are the chances are that Lafitte has a hand in that?
② The initial setting in his Vivre card was by far the most comprehensive of all of Teach's subordinates, Shiryu included and this initial setting feature a man name Silver who was being recruited as a "partner" by a figure who appeared to be Blackbeard from what appeared to be Whitebeard's Ship. At the time Silver who bears a striking resemblance to Lafitte was on what appeared to be Whitebeard's ship.
③Lafitte is a flight zoan, a very rare type of Zoan Fruit which Oda himself stated there were only 5 of very early on in the series.
Examples of characters with said type include folks like Marco and King. Also keep in mind that even if the number was retconned by Oda, Lafitte was one of the very first characters introduced with it so even if it was retconned, chances are that it was after Lafitte's introduction

- Abilities
Most of Sanji's opponents usually have some sort of hax/trickery about them they makes them hard to put down.
Lafitte unlike Burgess for instance who's a muscle head, uses hypnosis which could potentially be a very tricky ability to fight against. For instance even if Lafitte doesn't use the ability directly on Sanji, if he uses it on a woman let's say Pudding or Nami against Sanji then it's GG for Sanji

- Personality
Even though Lafitte seems to have a calm and collected personality. We are still yet to see his "brutality" which is why he's called the "Demon Sheriff" in the first place so there's most likely an extra layer to him
Tbh I feel like most of your reasons are "he's just cooler than the other two and Pizarro and Burgess suck", which doesn't really make sense because Oda doesn't care what we think.

The only reasons I can understand are him being Chief of Staff and being a trickster, but Sanji never fought a character whose rank is Chief of Staff before, and if that rank had to mean anything about future matchups, Zoro would fight them because they're typically second-in-command. So if Zoro isn't fighting him, which obviously won't happen, then there's no real reason to think his rank means Sanji will fight him imo.

Him having a deceptive ability doesn't mean much if he's not the only opponent with a deceptive personality or ability, it's not like there's always a single deceptive antagonist that Sanji fights himself. The CP9 had Blueno and he didn't fight Sanji, Baroque Works had multiple deceptive members, the Beast Pirates had Black Maria and Hawkins.

There was also this guy in Hody's crew that literally had the ability to turn invisible, yet he was Brook's opponent and Sanji just took down the big guy whose only ability was his brute strength. What made him a typical Sanji opponent was his goofiness.

Jabras personality was deceptive. He would lie and trick individuals to gain advantages in combat. Then Sanji won by pulling him into a trap.

Pizarros entire body is the island, there’s nothing deceptive about it. He can’t hide in it, because you can punch or kick anywhere and burn him.
Which brings us back to this point: why can't Pizarro have a deceptive personality? Why should only his ability be deceptive?

And what if he holds Pudding hostage and hurting him means hurting her, for example? Then he could easily sneak attack Sanji. He can be deceptive, if Oda wants him to be.
 
Tbh I feel like most of your reasons are "he's just cooler than the other two and Pizarro and Burgess suck", which doesn't really make sense because Oda doesn't care what we think.

The only reasons I can understand are him being Chief of Staff and being a trickster, but Sanji never fought a character whose rank is Chief of Staff before, and if that rank had to mean anything about future matchups, Zoro would fight them because they're typically second-in-command. So if Zoro isn't fighting him, which obviously won't happen, then there's no real reason to think his rank means Sanji will fight him imo.

Him having a deceptive ability doesn't mean much if he's not the only opponent with a deceptive personality or ability, it's not like there's always a single deceptive antagonist that Sanji fights himself. The CP9 had Blueno and he didn't fight Sanji, Baroque Works had multiple deceptive members, the Beast Pirates had Black Maria and Hawkins.

There was also this guy in Hody's crew that literally had the ability to turn invisible, yet he was Brook's opponent and Sanji just took down the big guy whose only ability was his brute strength. What made him a typical Sanji opponent was his goofiness.


Which brings us back to this point: why can't Pizarro have a deceptive personality? Why should only his ability be deceptive?

And what if he holds Pudding hostage and hurting him means hurting her, for example? Then he could easily sneak attack Sanji. He can be deceptive, if Oda wants him to be.
Because we know Pizarros personality. There’s no deception hes forthcoming with his intentions and telegraphs everything.

He won’t hold pudding. Oda already separated pudding from the slave camps, and logically her role is to read poneglyphs which is only important to the navigator. Lafitte.

Pizarro just doesn’t have the right personality for a Sanji fight.
 
Tbh I feel like most of your reasons are "he's just cooler than the other two and Pizarro and Burgess suck", which doesn't really make sense because Oda doesn't care what we think.

The only reasons I can understand are him being Chief of Staff and being a trickster, but Sanji never fought a character whose rank is Chief of Staff before, and if that rank had to mean anything about future matchups, Zoro would fight them because they're typically second-in-command. So if Zoro isn't fighting him, which obviously won't happen, then there's no real reason to think his rank means Sanji will fight him imo.

Him having a deceptive ability doesn't mean much if he's not the only opponent with a deceptive personality or ability, it's not like there's always a single deceptive antagonist that Sanji fights himself. The CP9 had Blueno and he didn't fight Sanji, Baroque Works had multiple deceptive members, the Beast Pirates had Black Maria and Hawkins.

There was also this guy in Hody's crew that literally had the ability to turn invisible, yet he was Brook's opponent and Sanji just took down the big guy whose only ability was his brute strength. What made him a typical Sanji opponent was his goofiness.
Surely the bolded can't be all you took from my post.
It's not a matter of cuul. From Rank → Portrayal → Prominence (amongst the BB Pirates) → Abilites (Which was is your main point of contention with Yasheen) I've already established why Lafitte is the most likely opponent for Sanji. Sanji having never fought a Chief of Staff before is irrelevant, it's like saying Zoro has never beaten a quote and quote fought a "Vice Captain" before so there's no guarantee he fights a "Vice Captain". What is important here is that both Lafitte and Sanji play similar roles in their respective crews. Moreover, SHs matchups are ultimately determined by rank and Lafitte being the Chief of Staff makes him an adequate opponent for Sanji (Laffite is effectively one of Teach's wings if we are going off rank alone). From a prominence perspective, whether you consider Laffite's vivre card or his devil fruit or the impact he's had on the plot, it's bordering on laughable in all honesty to think he will fight someone outside the M3. With regards to Sanji's opponents. not all Sanji's opponents are goofy, Gin wasn't, Kuroobi wasn't, Jyabura wasn't either only ting that is constant throughout Sanji's fights is that Oda usually imposes some type of nerf on him, usually in the form of trickery.

If Shiryu wasn't a thing, I'd be convinced that Lafitte would be Zoro's matchup, that is how clean Lafitte is.
 
Because we know Pizarros personality. There’s no deception hes forthcoming with his intentions and telegraphs everything.

He won’t hold pudding. Oda already separated pudding from the slave camps, and logically her role is to read poneglyphs which is only important to the navigator. Lafitte.

Pizarro just doesn’t have the right personality for a Sanji fight.
We barely know him. All we know if that he's goofy, loud and likes to put on a show, which are typical traits among Sanji's opponents. How long did it take to find out that Queen had a deceptive ability? The guy used it very late in the fight, it took that long for him to do something that matches the pattern you're talking about.

Same with Jabra, he had ton of character exposition and we "knew his personality" way before he started resorting to lies. He only started lying in the same chapter Sanji arrived to save the day and fight him, there was no hint of him being deceptive before that. So why should Pizarro appear deceptive before Oda even had the chance to develop him fully?

And what about Wadatsumi, did he have the right personality or ability to be Sanji's opponent? He was just goofy, which is the main trait of Sanji's opponents.
 
We barely know him. All we know if that he's goofy, loud and likes to put on a show, which are typical traits among Sanji's opponents. How long did it take to find out that Queen had a deceptive ability? The guy used it very late in the fight, it took that long for him to do something that matches the pattern you're talking about.

Same with Jabra, he had ton of character exposition and we "knew his personality" way before he started resorting to lies. He only started lying in the same chapter Sanji arrived to save the day and fight him, there was no hint of him being deceptive before that. So why should Pizarro appear deceptive before Oda even had the chance to develop him fully?

And what about Wadatsumi, did he have the right personality or ability to be Sanji's opponent? He was just goofy, which is the main trait of Sanji's opponents.
Queen upon his introduction tricked big mom to buy time To come up with a plan to capture her? So immediately
 
Surely the bolded can't be all you took from my post.
It's not a matter of cuul. From Rank → Portrayal → Prominence (amongst the BB Pirates) → Abilites (Which was is your main point of contention with Yasheen) I've already established why Lafitte is the most likely opponent for Sanji. Sanji having never fought a Chief of Staff before is irrelevant, it's like saying Zoro has never beaten a quote and quote fought a "Vice Captain" before so there's no guarantee he fights a "Vice Captain". What is important here is that both Lafitte and Sanji play similar roles in their respective crews. Moreover, SHs matchups are ultimately determined by rank and Lafitte being the Chief of Staff makes him an adequate opponent for Sanji (Laffite is effectively one of Teach's wings if we are going off rank alone). From a prominence perspective, whether you consider Laffite's vivre card or his devil fruit or the impact he's had on the plot, it's bordering on laughable in all honesty to think he will fight someone outside the M3. With regards to Sanji's opponents. not all Sanji's opponents are goofy, Gin wasn't, Kuroobi wasn't, Jyabura wasn't either only ting that is constant throughout Sanji's fights is that Oda usually imposes some type of nerf on him, usually in the form of trickery.


If Shiryu wasn't a thing, I'd be convinced that Lafitte would be Zoro's matchup, that is how clean Lafitte is.
I don't understand your point about Zoro, since nobody claimed that he's gonna fight a Vice Captain, nor anybody claimed he's gonna fight a certain character because of their rank. But you're saying Lafitte being a Chief of Staff is relevant. The hierarchy in BB's crew isn't necessarily strength-based and Lafitte being Chief of Staff doesn't necessarily mean he's one of BB's wings. Trebol was Doflamingo's Chief of Staff and it hardly meant anything, Vergo and Pica were much more prominent figures.

Jabra is clearly goofy in terms of personality. Gin and Kuroobi are disingenuous examples because that was when Sanji had just appeared in the story and Oda hadn't come up with a clear pattern at the time.

"Bordering laughable" is really an exaggeration. I think you're being a tad too emotional about this.

Queen upon his introduction tricked big mom to buy time To come up with a plan to capture her? So immediately
How did he trick Big Mom? I don't remember that. But that wasn't his introduction anyway, he was fighting with King and working on his tech when he got introduced. So it'd hardly be "immediately".

And again, there's Jabra.
 
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