Fanclub The V̶i̶n̶s̶m̶o̶k̶e̶ Sanji FC: The Prince of love

[Doggo]

Curious so checked JP twitter to see how folks feel about Sanji’s CoC and it’s pretty split tbh.

A lot of opinions being thrown around.
All of which are interesting.
There’s folks that think he will awaken it coz Gaban has it.
There’s folks that think wings dynamic won’t be balanced if he doesn’t.
There’s folks that think he might need to accept every part of himself including his Germa side in order to awaken it.
There’s folks that think it doesn’t suit him (Zoro, Sanji fans alike)
There’s folks that don’t want him to have it coz they want Zoro to remain special (Zoro fans)
There’s folks that think just like Emma helped Zoro in drawing out his CoC, Sanji’s power of love could do the same
There’s some that think he will get an equivalent to CoC (a rare type of Haki or PoL)

So opinion on this is pretty divided.

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Also like I already mentioned when the chapter came out. Some folks have pointed out that Gaban’s wording was weird. The fam at TCB goofed on the TL for that bit but Gaban phrasing implies that there could be more than 1 conqueror outside Luffy so some think Sanji could potentially already have it.

I think "accepting" his germa side is a good thing, because Sanji's proven that Judge and Germa dont define him. He's much more influenced by his mother and Zeff and can carve his own path.
But idk if that's the route Oda is going.
Ace also had his own issues with Roger, Sabo left his family as well, etc.
So Oda usually goes for the "stay away from toxic family members"

 

[PuckTheGreat]

This i never understood. How does it make Zoro special? Zoro is nor the first nor the only one who has CoC. lol
There were many before him and Luffy, his Captain has it. But then Zorobois wanted it for Zoro, cuz Luffy had it - yet it stil somehow makes Zoro special? lmao

Btw. why do people care what the japanese thing about it? It's not like, just cuz they are japenese they know more than we do. They don't work for Oda lol.

I completely agreee on the CoC ting lol, I mean Yamato has it and people didn't bat an eyelid
I think the issue here is Sanji in particular having it as in their minds, they'd like Zoro to keep the allure of being an outlier even amongst the SHs. One person in particular brought up the Uroge quote but funny ting is that Sanji also has similar quotes though. They simply aren't as glorified as Zoro's. Another ting that competely rejects that notion is the wings dynamic. If Zoro was supposed to be this completely unqiue breed on the SHs, the wings of the PK dynamic won't be a ting. It's simply bias which is fair and kudos to them for actually being honest about it as opposed to mofos on here that hide their bias behind criteria they've made up in their head.

 

[Rumble]

Also on the S-Shark feat, if y'all think it's an exo ting then you are basically saying it can be replicated by Sanji's brothers and Reiju.

The exoskeletons scale to the user.

But idk if that's the route Oda is going.

Oda likes this cyborg shit, so it wasn't going to go away anyhow.

The good thing is that Germa modifications are biological in nature. Lineage Factor bullshit.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

I like the idea of PoL being an additive kind of Haki, not its own special power.

Sanji is a leader, as so many Conquerors are, and defined by the same kind of love (Whitebeard) and kindness (Luffy) other very powerful Conquerors possess.

Of all the Strawhat Pirates, I think Sanji is most suited to leadership, I do think he will lead a crew or organisation of some kind in the future.

No one can convince me this kind of love isn't the logical end point for an older, wiser Sanji that takes care of people.

Sanji's kindness is what justifies him being a Conqueror.

Agree with everything you said but I really don't think PoL is haki.
Reason being that it is hinted at being a characteristic ability of the Buccaneers.
That said though when I think of what the special ability of the Three Eyed Tribe could be (i.e clairvoyance etc.), it feels like CoO but I don't know, do folks consider VOAT haki or it's own special thing?

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The exoskeletons scale to the user.

This is headcanon imo.
It'd be like saying Ichji's exo is stronger than the rest of his brothers coz he's implied to the strongest which is headcanon as no distinction has been made btw their exoskeletons.

You can make an argument for haki layering to justify Sanji's Exo being stronger but the exo in itself being strong just coz is cap imo.
I think Oda's trying to make that distinction with his bros with PoL.

 

[RayanOO]

Of all the Strawhat Pirates, I think Sanji is most suited to leadership, I do think he will lead a crew or organisation of some kind in the future.

Sanji will lead the New Baratie in all blue EOS
He will be somewhat the « captain » of his restaurant

So we know he will have a leading role EOS

I don’t think he will lead Germa at all, except his the Germa and the restaurant are merging and Germa castle becomes tte new restaurant itself.

‘And with the snails being able to be indépendant and going everywhere Sanji will be able to feed the whole world

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I think "accepting" his germa side is a good thing, because Sanji's proven that Judge and Germa dont define him. He's much more influenced by his mother and Zeff and can carve his own path.
But idk if that's the route Oda is going.
Ace also had his own issues with Roger, Sabo left his family as well, etc.
So Oda usually goes for the "stay away from toxic family members"

It feels like he already accepted it tho? I figured when he accepted the exoskeleton and his change that was him accepting who his family is.

 

[Reborn]

Sabji should get CoC.


It's an established power level system which everyone in the verse acknowledge.

It's the testament of reigning supreme.


PoL or any type of tech won't be able to have that much impact as having CoC would.


A remnant of joyboy haki gave PTSD to imu.

So, there shouldn't be any doubt - CoC sanji or else we riot

 

[Rumble]

This i never understood.

It's about Sanji not having it. That's the only reason.

Once Sanji is confirmed a Conqueror, they know it's over for their fantasies.

CoC debunks so much of the noise they make about hierarchies in strength and rank.

If they were real fans of One Piece, they'd get on board with the hype of the Monster Trio blasting CoC at waves of enemies on Hachinosu or in the Holyland.

 

[Doggo]

It feels like he already accepted it tho? I figured when he accepted the exoskeleton and his change that was him accepting who his family is.

Thats more like "yeah, now that the deed is done, it is what it is"

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Some of them are French.

I mean what is this even?
Is he wearing a noodle bowl with a pentagram on his head?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Thats more like "yeah, now that the deed is done, it is what it is"

I think that’s acceptance imo. It kinda speaks to Sanji no longer denying what he is in regards to his family.

 

[RayanOO]

Some of them are French.

French = quality

Tou best boy

Sanji French too 🇫🇷 🇫🇷

 

[Julius]

This i never understood. How does it make Zoro special? Zoro is nor the first nor the only one who has CoC. lol
There were many before him and Luffy, his Captain has it. But then Zorobois wanted it for Zoro, cuz Luffy had it - yet it stil somehow makes Zoro special? lmao

Btw. why do people care what the japanese thing about it? It's not like, just cuz they are japenese they know more than we do. They don't work for Oda lol.

CoC is the only thing holding the scraps of their fantasies. CoC debunks so many things these guys have said for so long, it isn't even about just power anymore, at least for me, its about winning an agenda by proving bluds wrong

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Oda about to reveal that Sora's pills did nothing, Sanji's CoC did. Wait for it

 

[Doggo]

I think that’s acceptance imo. It kinda speaks to Sanji no longer denying what he is in regards to his family.

Its acceptance without "choice"
Know what I mean?

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CoC is the only thing holding the scraps of their fantasies. CoC debunks so many things these guys have said for so long, it isn't even about just power anymore, at least for me, its about winning an agenda by proving bluds wrong

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Oda about to reveal that Sora's pills did nothing, Sanji's CoC did. Wait for it

Her "love" did.
Oda is corny.

 

[Reborn]

CoC is the only thing holding the scraps of their fantasies. CoC debunks so many things these guys have said for so long, it isn't even about just power anymore, at least for me, its about winning an agenda by proving bluds wrong

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Oda about to reveal that Sora's pills did nothing, Sanji's CoC did. Wait for it

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Its acceptance without "choice"
Know what I mean?

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Her "love" did.
Oda is corny.

Okay now I get what you’re saying. That it was only out of convenience and not character growth

 

[Doggo]

Okay now I get what you’re saying. That it was only out of convenience and not character growth

No.

There are things out of our control in life that somestimes we need to accept and roll with them.
There are other things that we CAN control.

The genes awakening due to using the Raid Suit were outside of Sanji's control. It happened and there was no going back for him.

Accepting his family after WCI would be a CHOICE that Sanji makes in order to find peace within himself.

Better now? xd

 

[Rumble]

Sanji will lead the New Baratie in all blue EOS
He will be somewhat the « captain » of his restaurant

So we know he will have a leading role EOS

I don’t think he will lead Germa at all, except his the Germa and the restaurant are merging and Germa castle becomes tte new restaurant itself.

‘And with the snails being able to be indépendant and going everywhere Sanji will be able to feed the whole world

I'm thinking largely along the same lines.

Sanji was #2 at Baratie when they met him. He was already a leader, and specifically one groomed to defend his livelihood.

There are many potential outcomes that come to mind in respect to where Sanji might end up. The most popular appears to involve settling down with Pudding in some reformed version of the Germa Kingdom.

idk if that's more or less likely than Sanji leaving all of that behind to return to Baratie or create his own restaurant.

Personally, I'd like him to end up as a king at least for a time.

In my headcanon, the Strawhats become a thing of faded legend with time and Sanji - of course - fades more so than Zoro, to the point many people aren't actually aware of him.

Zoro becomes WSS and is wildly considered as possibly the strongest in the world (Kid has WSM title), but there are various rumours of a rival in the North Blue, of conflicting origin stories that make it unclear whether this rival is a prince, a chef, a king or a just a pervert.

Alternatively, I really like the idea of Sanji become a positive version of BM combined with WB, as a world famous restaurant with a massive fleet of repurposed Germa assets to travel the seas, feed and rescue.

Could see that situation requiring restocking from Whole Cake Island, now ruled by a council including Pudding who is the mother of one or more of Sanji's many kids, of whom some sail with him and some don't.

I mean what is this even?

Kino.

 

[RayanOO]

I'm thinking largely along the same lines.

Sanji was #2 at Baratie when they met him. He was already a leader, and specifically one groomed to defend his livelihood.

There are many potential outcomes that come to mind in respect to where Sanji might end up. The most popular appears to be involve settling down with Pudding in some reformed version of the Germa Kingdom.

idk if that's more or less likely than Sanji leaving all of that behind to return to Baratie or create his own restaurant.

Personally, I'd like him to end up as a king at least for a time.

In my headcanon, the Strawhats become a thing of faded legend with time and Sanji - of course - fades more so than Zoro, to the point many people aren't actually aware of him.

Zoro becomes WSS and is wildly considered as possibly the strongest in the world (Kid has WSM title), but there are various rumours of a rival in the North Blue, of conflicting origin stories that make it unclear whether this rival is a prince, a chef, a king or a just a pervert.

Alternatively, I really like the idea of Sanji become a positive version of BM combined with WB and having a massive fleet of repurposed Germa assets to travel the seas, feed and rescue.

Could see that situation requiring restocking from Whole Cake Island, now ruled by a council including Pudding who is the mother of one or more of Sanji's many kids, of whom some sail with him and some don't.



Kino.

I think all the Germa clones will be waiters and cooks in Sanji big restaurants

 

[Jackteo]

I think all the Germa clones will be waiters and cooks in Sanji big restaurants

The ultimate revenge against Vergo