Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1159 Spoilers Discussion

[moreha9685]

Rocks tries to rescue Shakky = "omg guys he's a SIMP"

Rocks doesn't try to rescue Shakky = "omg guys he's a BUM"

You would literally slander him no matter what choice he made

Xebec made the right choice, don't listen to the flip-floppers.
Family over pussy is the only respectable choice.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Rogers crew is literally there and took treasure (which is how Shanks was found). He could have been gifted it years later. Also a myriad of pirates were there, he could have plundered it from them later on.

All this convoluted shit

The simplest explanation is, Roger pirates dumped shank on someone else in some island until he was a bit more grownup. I doubt they had the toddler in the crew. They just picked him up after he grew up a bit. So that island would be his "hometown"

 

[NikaInParis]

Literally doing their work for them at this point lmfao

Hey, nobody can say it's boring on worstgen

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Is he? Bad guys can have worse enemies

teach also hates the WG and is also actively on a mission to destroy them, is Teach a good guy?

your Roger point is blatantly false. You are even adding made up numbers to your made up statements.

Teach want to be the Pirate King. He have no problem cooperating with WG. Teach never went to MJ to challenge IMU.



Xebec genuinely wanted to overthrow WG just like Dragon


Ok


A country have some millons citizens. From millions of citizens , thousands of people will join the army.


So few people in army insulted Roger's crew and Roger end up destroying the entire army.

Is it a collective punishment or not?

 

[Ven437]

Full summary here (not sure if legit)

https://x.com/secretsauce2024/status/1963261567895753069?s=46&t=yrRZ-ANZh6EBs7xwgJNlcg

 

[Franosuke]

So who raised Teach-chan before Whitebeard took him

His mom deffo died in GV

 

[Paperchampion23]

Teach is nowhere close to being WB's first son. In Oden's flashback they find him on an island with the base of WB's crew already formed.

Ah i totally forgot about that lol. Would also make sense why Newgate probably didnt know he was Rocks' son

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All this convoluted shit

The simplest explanation is, Roger pirates dumped shank on someone else in some island until he was a bit more grownup. I doubt they had the toddler in the crew. They just picked him up after he grew up a bit. So that island would be his "hometown"

Oda already confirmed that he was found in a chest by the crew after God Valley. This was canonized in the Film Red companion books.

Its like....actually not convoluted at all lmao. Clearly Dragon replaced one of the devil fruit prize chests (probably the Wind Logia he ate) and placed Shanks in that chest. Like hard to see this at all


Also thats entirely redundant to how Teach was found by Whitebeard


Edit: Also God Valley is literally gone guys, Sengoku has talked about this. Blame Oda for making Shanks born there and then yeeting the island afterwards lol

 

[AL sama]

don't bring real life politics here

first and last warning

 

[Emperor Buggy]

So who raised Teach-chan before Whitebeard took him

His mom deffo died in GV

The mother did not die, if i recall oda drew scribbles of ace meeting the mother and sister of teach, ace was surprised to see teach's family being an example of politeness.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

God Valley still exist
Shanks gave a wine from GV to whitebeard in the pre time skip

Yep, Lulusia and God Valley are where Davy Jones Locker is: knocked down to the Ocean's bottom by Uranus.

I think Shanks' has been deep underground on Blue Planet.

It is possible some small bits of the island survived, though. If God Valley does still exist on the surface, I think it would be a Jaya situation where a good deal of it is gone.

 

[SDfear]

Full summary here (not sure if legit)

https://x.com/secretsauce2024/status/1963261567895753069?s=46&t=yrRZ-ANZh6EBs7xwgJNlcg

Few points to point out
If translation are accurate
- Young Dragon looks great
- Shanks mom clearly didn't know Garling
- Garling already took the children and Dragon only found mother
- Xebec said he had children and not just a one kid
Baby Buggy?
- Dragon already went rouge

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Oda already confirmed that he was found in a chest by the crew after God Valley. This was canonized in the Film Red companion books.

Its like....actually not convoluted at all lmao. Clearly Dragon replaced one of the devil fruit prize chests (probably the Wind Logia he ate) and placed Shanks in that chest. Like hard to see this at all

that's not what i'm talking about

i'm talking about what they did with shank the toddler after finding him in the box

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- Shanks mom clearly didn't know Garling

Nah. She prolly did. But was surprised at Garlings newest actions

 

[ElderOnitar]

Few points to point out
If translation are accurate
- Young Dragon looks great
- Shanks mom clearly didn't know Garling
- Garling already took the children and Dragon only found mother
- Xebec said he had children and not just a one kid
Baby Buggy?
- Dragon already went rouge

These are real spoilers?

 

[Midnight Delight]

Ok so why did Garling fuck a non noble woman

 

[SDfear]

It's possibly Dragon did something to slaves cage that had Ginny, Kuma & Ivankov
Because Morgans clearly had information what going on GV from Ginny wiretap
They where free

 

[Paperchampion23]

that's not what i'm talking about

i'm talking about what they did with shank the toddler after finding him in the box

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Nah. She prolly did. But was surprised at Garlings newest actions

I think you are just getting up on translated dialogue to english. Pretty sure the original raws say just its wine where he's "from" not where he "grew up".

 

[SDfear]

These are real spoilers?

They should be, i'm not sure of text translation
We skip around this chapter a lot

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that's not what i'm talking about

i'm talking about what they did with shank the toddler after finding him in the box

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Nah. She prolly did. But was surprised at Garlings newest actions

Garling pretend to be a good guy
He played her

 

[Blax Blah]

We got Davy Jones and Blackbeard. We're just missing Jack Sparrow.

@sparrow210

 

[Hedfi]

Full summary here (not sure if legit)

https://x.com/secretsauce2024/status/1963261567895753069?s=46&t=yrRZ-ANZh6EBs7xwgJNlcg

Looks like AI slop

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

He have no problem cooperating with WG.

Xebec also corporated with the WG. Remember he struck a deal with them to get Pirate island under control

Teach genuinely wants to Destroy the WG too.

And no, none of these two Rocks or Teach are like Dragon. They both want to destroy them WG so they can become the New King of the world to replace Imu. Dragon does not want to do that. That’s what Dragon is a good guy and Teach is not

my guy, I’m not going to entertain your made up numbers. On top of the fact that Roger is stated to have destroyed an army, he’s also not even stated to have KILLED the army men. The strawhats destroyed the Beast pirates army yet as far as we know, almost everyone in the beast pirates the strawhats fought is still alive, including Kaido. So you can in fact “destroy an army” without killing everyone.

collective punishment is a specific term that means the murder or subjugation of civilians and unaffiliated parties.