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  • The dumbest thing about the Eight Gates is that fact that no one else even tries to learn to open at least the first few, despite them being a straight up power multiplier. Sure, even learning the first few gates should require a bit of taijutsu mastery, but surely legendary taijutsu-centered fighters like Tsunade and A could learn some of them over time?
    Shiroyru
    Shiroyru
    It should’ve just been a Kekkei Genkai
    Sentinel
    Sentinel
    8th Gate used to be equal to a hokage but somehow Kishimoto ended up retconning this mode to such absurd levels when Gai was punching Juudara around.

    There's just this weird tendency when mangakas draw complete shit near the end of their story. Attack on Titan and One Piece are other examples.
    kekaro
    kekaro
    8 gates were introduced when asthmatic orochimaru vs geriatric hiruzen vs thought to be peak of shinobi fighting
    Do you think BM is stronger than guys like Rayleigh and Gaban? Her portrayal exceeds their massively but her feats are simply so shit and she's a terrible fighter on paper. I still have her taking the W vs them though
    ZenZu
    ZenZu
    He had Shanks make an Admiral twerk, and then a few chapters later followed that up with Ray making a Yonkou twerk. He had Garp state the Marines are not in a position to take on Ray while dealing with WB, then he had Shanks prove it by stopping the war. He made that sbs statement comparing Luffy's conqueror's to Shanks and Ray, using them as an example in saying they would wipe out FI with a conq blast.
    Daniel
    Daniel
    Some of the folks in the One Piece Battledome section have a level of knowledge that is almost mind-bogglingly impressive.
    grey matter
    grey matter
    Zenzu spitting facts lol.
    I'll just push back on "Luffy won't leave Franky, Brook or Robin to handle Ray like with BM". He absolutely would lol, if plot demands. It's unfair to downplay BM for this.

    Other than that, Ray's portrayal is comparable to Oden's - partner type RHM of Roger/WB.

    IMO: Ray ~ Shanks >= Oden > Gaban >= Big Mom
    Who’s PL surprised you more, Oden’s or Harald’s? I remember people assumed Oden would be like YC1 level at the very start of Wano, only to be arguably stronger than Kaido lmao. And then there’s Harald, who’s randomly stronger than the PK for really no reason
    bumass jays really blew a bases loaded 1 out potential walkoff
    ZenZu
    ZenZu
    If the Jays sign Bichette they will be back next year. Otherwise they're cooked. If Bichette was healthy these playoffs this series would have been wrapped up in 5. Facing that lineup with Bichette following Vladdy is too difficult for any pitcher to even hope to deal with, unfortunately he kept being taken out late in games cause he couldn't run with the injury.
    Roo
    Roo
    Yankees with a returning Cole and revamped bullpen>
    ZenZu
    ZenZu
    Yankees are borderline dogshit, they lack fundamentals, the bottom of their lineup bats like they're using wet noodles.

    Also Cole < YeSavage.
    Imagine if we lived in a timeline where Ufotable animated One Punch Man instead of Demon Slayer...
    ZenZu
    ZenZu
    One Punch Man s1 was better animated than any Demon Slayer season. So we kind of do live in that timeline and OPM did transcend anime for that year. But I hear you on S2 forward, it deserves so much more especially since the content is much better than S1.
    How would you rank these arcs from best to worst? Shibuya, Shinjuku, Infinity Castle, Monster Association raid, Chunin Exams, and Marineford?
    ZenZu
    ZenZu
    Buddy is giving me homework, I don't know half these arcs off the top of my head.
    soupongo
    soupongo
    Lmaooo, that's like 5 different series's. Very apples to oranges lol
    Sanest admiraltard
    Blackbeard
    Blackbeard
    That's cool but he's still not unzipping it for you.
    Bisoromi Bear
    Bisoromi Bear
    Seeing how even the other admiraltard likes your post one can only imagine how divided the admiral fandom truly is
    :Reddog:
    ZenZu
    ZenZu
    There's no such thing as an Admiraltard, there is only One Piece truther.
    What do you think would've happened had Hogyoku Aizen made it to the Royal Palace and faced Squad 0?

    Based on Squad 0 feats in the anime.
    Blackbeard
    Blackbeard
    Muken Aizen/Chair Aizen still mogs them all.
    ZenZu
    ZenZu
    I missed that, I figured they each had a broken bankai but don't remember that statement. I can't envision the food women, and the hot springs dude beating Aizen, they weren't that impressive. Zankpaktou creator, yes, Ichibei yes. Shutara...maybe? A powered up Ishida did destroy her afterall, I don't think that version of Ishida can beat Hogyoku Aizen.
    ZenZu
    ZenZu
    Yea chair Aizen is actually stronger than Hogyoku Aizen, cause he's still able to use his mindfuck ability lmao.
    By the end of the manga, do you think the fandom will basically get a consensus on God King Sama vs Cuckeye?

    There's plenty of series where this stuff gets argued forever, and Oda doesn't even like making PL statements. Funniest is that people spent decades arguing Kid Buu vs super Buu when there's a canon answer
    ZenZu
    ZenZu
    I don't think there will ever be a consensus on it no. Oda will never clearly state Shanks is weaker or stronger outright, he's gonna let people discuss it till the end of time.
    Which suicidal transformation is worse, 8th Gate or Mythical Beast Amber? @EmperorKinyagi
    Shiroyru
    Shiroyru
    Kashimo’s curse technique, which he can only activate once at the cost of his life
    ZenZu
    ZenZu
    Oh, that shit is ass, but 8th gate is worse for sure.
    Shiroyru
    Shiroyru
    Idk. They’re both ass for the opposite reasons. 8th Gate is way too strong, but Mythical Beast Amber is way too weak. At least 8th Gate was good for generating some cheap hype
    holy shit new Tyler the Creator on Monday.

    JID and Freddie Gibbs soon too

    and Clipse album was peak
    Do you think Oda will have it be that Shanks was Yonkou level in Ch. 1 and was Mihawk's equal until he lost his arm? Hell, Shanks had the potential to surpass Mihawk, but he marred that in Ch. 1.
    ZenZu
    ZenZu
    No. As much as we discuss this topic, Mihawk is in the rear view mirror for Shanks in the story.
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