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Rereading Sanyou and coming to the realization that Ouhon really is my favorite [active] Qin commander. You can really see the difference between his spearmanship at Sanyou vs now. At Sanyou his spear was leaving small holes in throats, at Shukai his spear was blowing holes in people lmfao 
As crazy as that is, I feel like Jaime Lannister's martial ability gets underrated by a portion of the fandom. Martin has gone to great lenghts to give him an absolutely LUDICROUS amount of hype and portrayal as a warrior.
Prime Jaime vs prime Selmy is as close to a 50/50 as it gets, maybe I'd give 51 to Barristan and 49 to Jaime but it really can go either way. Same for Arthur without dawn.
And my obsession with Shibashou continues. Would you describe my thoughts on him as accurate or exaggerated?
-He seems outright larger than Kanmei
-Explicitly hyped as 3GH level by Riboku
-Heavily martial aura and hype
I mean seriously I thought the extreme SBS hype was wide-spread
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How would you rate Ouki/Renpa (in comparison to each other) as tacticians?
I have always seen Renpa as slightly better in that but I think it's very close. Ouki's showing at Bayou was very impressive.
Favorite to least favorite Admiral? What's your ranking? (including Garp and Sengoku).
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Since we talked about all time strongest Generals. What are your thoughts on Gaku KI the "Military God". He crushed QI as the leader of the first coalition and overall he feels like the Ryuma of Kingdom. That one legendary figure with insane portrayal that has no ties or comparison to any Generals we know off.
He has 100 in Leadership and Great General factor. 98 in intelligence and 93 in strength equal to Ousen.
Top five (all time) strongest generals by EoS?
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There would be a few factors in play of course, but would you say there is general who happens to be a particularly bad matchup for Kanki?
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(I say one for sure is, assuming we take her troops into consideration, Yotanwa, like Owl had also said. Her army is so stacked and versatile that Kanki would probably be in a very bad position from start to finish).
Hadn't paid too much attention to OP lately so I reread now the Garp/Aokiji match. This man Kuzan casually going at Garp the Fist in a haki punching contest lol. During the match. was also noted by Garp himself to being "soft".
It's like @Elder Lee Hung was saying. These Admirals are outrageously skilled, outrageously complete fighters. Low key reminded me of Kizaru deciding to use swordmaship against Ray.
I've just now reread the part of Shukai Plains where Gyou’Un uses the Raigoku. Nasty tactic. And despite Ouhon Sama's own fabulous performance, the guy got defeated that day.
Could the Raigoku work on someone like Man'U or would his knowledge/experience as a former Great General, his personal might and his soldiers prove to be too much in any case?
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Shibashou about to scare the living shit out of the mountan madlads👽
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I have finished that Temur book by Justin Marozzi. Twas a damn good read. Temur is a truly underappreciated conqueror. This man should be up there with worldwide household names like Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great etc. Lol.
Moubu/Shouheikun 1vs1 training match when? Lol.
(They have must have done plenty back then, I would love if Hara showed something).
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Time of Bayou: let's say that, for some reason, Riboku has decided to target Renpa instead of Ouki. At the time Renpa is in Wei (so he'll be leading a Wei army and has his 4 HK).
With the intent of killing him, does Riboku prepare for Renpa a similar trap to the one he employed for Ouki? Does he change his subordinate usage? (Houken, Keisha, Bananji, SSJ)? Basically, how differently does he approach this?
Ouki vs Duke Hyou, war (even armies/subordinates).
I'd say Ouki but it's going to be a close one for sure. The Duke's insticts are insane and his main soldiers are actually even slightly stronger than Ouki's like the man himself said.
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So, about Kanmei: we know he has a service record which was framed similarly to that of Kyou of the Qin Six ("100 cities taken") and hadn't lost before Moubu. He also had made Oukotsu, a Qin Six, retreat by defeating him a in duel.
Look: outrageously good martial monster and a morale booster/leader too. That's what we saw against Moubu.
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- Goda.
So, Ouki had at least some degree of knowledge about Ousen's and Kanki's capabilities.
Riboku's name emerged from the darkness when he first appeared.
But, I ask, how much would someone like Renpa have known about Riboku...?
From Renpa's initial reaction to Ouki's death (him kinda downplaying Ouki), he was at the very least (previously) underestimating what Riboku was capable of doing.
When it comes to Riboku/Ousen current comparison:
As much as either guy has the capability to outplay/fool the other, with them going back and forth (and we might see some nutty stuff from Ousen soon)...for now at least, Riboku still is overall the slightly superior mind.
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