Conceptually, he's one of the coolest generals in the manga. Someone from the plains who conquered 50 mountain tribes and became their King, an expert in mountain warfare.... too bad he's so scrubby
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I'm really disappointed that Ordo is mediocre as he is.
Conceptually, he's one of the coolest generals in the manga. Someone from the plains who conquered 50 mountain tribes and became their King, an expert in mountain warfare.... too bad he's so scrubby
I had made the following post under @FutureWarrior123 profile short ago but I'll do it here again, tagging a few more folks and see what y'all think. So:
Given Hara's portrayal of and statements on Shouheikun's ludicrous ability, are we meant to view his talent as being overall > each member of the old Qin Six/Three Great Heavens? (In the manga).
Because that's kinda the impression I get.
Rinshoujo is one of those figures who Hara vehemently hyped and from whom we'll almost certainly never see a full fledged battle performance (sadly lol).
In the two instances where he was shown leading, Hara had this man move Ouki like he wanted and he seemed in complete control of the battle; in the other, RSJ was again making both foes and allies (Renpa) dancing to his tune.
Casual reminder that to this day, after hundreds of chapters and us having seen plenty of top tier generals, Hara still refuses to show Tou's true power.
I'm very scared for whoever Hara will pick as the foe against whom Tou will unleash.
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We had talked about this scenario a few times but man imagine if Hara really does give Riboku such a WILD respect that he outright refuses to have him meet his end on the battlefield and has him removed by his own state instead at the end (with then Zhao falling).
It'd be freaking insane, a foe's treatment completely unheard of.
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My prediction: Shibashou is a top tier instinctual general. Duke Hyou's instics were linked to a lion, Keisha's were linked to a spider, for Shibashou we'll have the tiger.
He must be a true monster for Riboku to have decided put him in front of Ousen. Insticts 99, outstanding officers, martially as strong as Man'U. Him being instinctual not only will be a problem for Ousen, this time it might also completely...
Koshou might have been the second strongest member of the old Qin Six. Like, man, being Qin's grand strategist and when you have got folks rumoring about the other Qin Six members being your appendages...that is pretty wild hype.
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“I want you to go back into the barrack and tell the men to come out after the storm. Tell them to look up at me tied here. Tell them I’ll open my eyes and look back at them, and they’ll know that I survived.”
~ Kaladin Stormblessed ~
Who do you guys think has the absolute strongest elite soldiers between Qin, Zhao and Chu?
Roughly equals I'd say? They are all very impressive.
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Reasons Shibashou is an EOS vassal of Ousen: (no historical spoilers as this is just my crackpot theory that I’m holding firm to)
I maintain that Genpou is the scariest Heavenly King, both by hype and by feats. Hara had to give Renpa that nerf by killing him lol, he was simply too strong to be brought into the end of Kingdom.
What if Chu's current second strongest commander is actually one of Kou En's vassals, who out of sheer loyalty for him decided to stay at his direct service and not to go on his own path?
That would be pretty insane because with Karin being Chu's head of military affairs, it means she's probably at least RSJ/Koshou level.
But I can potentially see that.
Rereading chapters 767-773, man the stakes for war and the emotional tension with that which Hara has put on everyone. From Bihei and the villagers to Shin/Kyoukai to Ouhon, talks about fear of death, about not coming back to loved ones, break or make dreams.
In the Zhao side it's felt even heavier, with its life on the line, Riboku's promise to come back to Ganmon and live his desired peaceful life [cont]
All this recent Akou reverance puts a big old smile on my face, I gotta say.
Akou - The 1st commander of the 6GG, Ousen. The Renpa-level combatant (can't deny facts).
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Rereading Sanyou and coming to the realization that Ouhon really is my favorite [active] Qin commander. You can really see the difference between his spearmanship at Sanyou vs now. At Sanyou his spear was leaving small holes in throats, at Shukai his spear was blowing holes in people lmfao
As crazy as that is, I feel like Jaime Lannister's martial ability gets underrated by a portion of the fandom. Martin has gone to great lenghts to give him an absolutely LUDICROUS amount of hype and portrayal as a warrior.
Prime Jaime vs prime Selmy is as close to a 50/50 as it gets, maybe I'd give 51 to Barristan and 49 to Jaime but it really can go either way. Same for Arthur without dawn.
And my obsession with Shibashou continues. Would you describe my thoughts on him as accurate or exaggerated?
-He seems outright larger than Kanmei
-Explicitly hyped as 3GH level by Riboku
-Heavily martial aura and hype
I mean seriously I thought the extreme SBS hype was wide-spread
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How would you rate Ouki/Renpa (in comparison to each other) as tacticians?
I have always seen Renpa as slightly better in that but I think it's very close. Ouki's showing at Bayou was very impressive.
Favorite to least favorite Admiral? What's your ranking? (including Garp and Sengoku).
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Since we talked about all time strongest Generals. What are your thoughts on Gaku KI the "Military God". He crushed QI as the leader of the first coalition and overall he feels like the Ryuma of Kingdom. That one legendary figure with insane portrayal that has no ties or comparison to any Generals we know off.
He has 100 in Leadership and Great General factor. 98 in intelligence and 93 in strength equal to Ousen. -
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