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Both in their primes is an extreme diff either way and I’d probably favor Kuzan. His physical strength is close to equal and he has a busted devil fruit (which he didn’t even use in their “fight”) :kayneshrug:

Naw I’m not down with @Elder Lee Hung ’s Garp slander. I agree that hes pretty awful as a character (and perhaps a person) until we see a lot more but definitely very strong. Kuzan owes his strength to him, but on the flip side Kuzan made it to the same level. Edit: I’ll add that he has other...

Wista is arguably the biggest gigachad in the manga. He could’ve been a good teacher for Zoro, getting him more buff and being able to handle multiple swords better.

Young master negs garlic

Smoker went from being an unbeatable foe to a joke for Luffy. I expected them to grow in lock-step. CP0 esp Mr. Go fell totally flat. So flat that characters defeated pre-ts ended up stronger than all of them. They have low plot importance so far, too. Doffy’s executives were disappointing...

Those phone calls and back room deals are already working:

I might as well admit that we’ve been exposed and the jig is up. @Elder Lee Hung @SakazOuki @MarineHQ and a covert network of hundreds of admiral fans pool discreetly funnel millions of dollars to Stephen Paul and the rest of the Viz team several times per year in order to make the yonko look as...

Overall I agree with you. The WG is a fascist institution that has had the world under its thumb for 800 years. The people in charge of it were always going to be the ultimate villains. That said, I think there's validity to the complaints beyond powerscaling. Kaguya in Naruto was such a mess...

Neither was planned. Oda retcons just as much as other mangaka and authors, but he’s better than most at hiding it. Part of the reason he leaves so many open questions during every arc, even why he silhouettes so many characters, is to leave himself flexibility to fill the gaps however he...

I think it could go either way. It would be a very neat wrap-up to Egghead, not disputing that. It's hard to compare Saturn vs the Yonko because so little is known about him. And that's the thing, he's a new threat of an entirely different nature from any before. Crocodile was sort of similar...

It’s going to (continue to) be akin to Harry Potter or the avengers universe, not Shakespeare. And there’s nothing wrong with that.

There’s a lot about this that fits well in theory. Kuma and Bonney get to witness a satisfying defeat of their oppressor. perhaps Zoro gets to pay Kizaru back for tormenting him 2 years ago. Saturn biting the bullet would be more shocking to the world than even the defeat of two yonko. But...

Welcome back @Elder Lee Hung and take it easy with the irl stuff. Garp is def an hypocrite but all the high ranking marines have to make difficult choices in opposition to their beliefs. Tbh the only one who hasn’t is Fujitora, and he’s been in his post for less than 1/10th of the time of the...

This is basically it though, many more yonko fans than admiral fans, so more admiral slander in aggregate.

Haters gonna hate. Edit: He is HIM

It’ll be interesting to see how Kuma: - escaped (or was let go by?) Saturn - went from slave to king - went from king to pirate - went from pirate to Shichibukai (and how the Gorosei were ok with all of this…) - went from Shichibukai back to slave - went from slave to brainless robot

Oda giveth, Oda taketh away.

Considering the author of this thread, I know the admiral agenda is dead and buried :(

Being injured, but still being able to perform all sorts of acrobatics is worse than being handcuffed with sea stone in a prison cell?

How else could we have been gifted with this? kingufy