General & Others A huge Yonko War Arc with a crew worth of Zoan users, yet none is awakened.

[Sir Yasheen]

Hiyori character same as Toki(mother) been so fucking bad, even Rebecca had better scenes and character build up then her.

Why giving her a special sword if she don't do anything with it? Or why making a big fuss and hint Hiyori until the end, couldn't he reveal it at the start of the arc, give one-two chapter proper fight and flashback against Orochi?

We spend the most time in this raid on irrelevant stuff, stupid stuff and plot who ruin everything. Stalling chapters, showing chapters for a children. Oda could easily cut lot of stuff and we could get easily a better raid.

I wish Oda would have better editors and not asslicking yes sayer around him...

Every princess makes me appreciate Vivi so much.
Hell looking back at post TS arcs I was too harsh on Rebecca at least she had the will to fight.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Mayuri too. Possibly Kenpachi. Kill them off at each act of the Arc, Mayuri in the middle and Kenny dying to slay Gerard in the end. That’s the big thing that hits the TYBW, the lack of follow ups on the initial brutality of the arc.

Mayuri living was worse than Orochimaru tbh

Especially when you remember that he's most likely inspired by Unit 731.....

 

[Twin Milf]

Every princess makes me appreciate Vivi so much.
Hell looking back at post TS arcs I was too harsh on Rebecca at least she had the will to fight.

Shirahoshi fought with Luffy vs Hody
Hiyori wanted to fight Orochi but Denjiro happened lol

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Mayuri living was worse than Orochimaru tbh

Especially when you remember that he's most likely inspired by Unit 731.....

Not sure if you follow MHA, but the author got shit for naming a character after that yet Mayuri goes free lmfaoooo.

People really don’t remember how much of a piece of shit and sadist Mayuri was in the Soul Society Arc. He got quirky later but he should’ve been sent to Muugen minimum. Death by Quincy is too fitting to pass up.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Shirahoshi fought with Luffy vs Hody
Hiyori wanted to fight Orochi but Denjiro happened lol

Shirahoshi was quickly replaced with her brother in the hody fight (also don’t get why when luffy fighting with shirahoshi would’ve been more impactful)

And with what? A shamisen?

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

Honestly why not, I would make all Calamities awakened, ancient zoans will never be in spotlight again, so we would have a flying zoan, dinosaur and a mammal ancient zoan awakened. And Kaido too by deafult then as the mythical zoan.

You know what's worse? Many other plot points in this arc, if rearranged, could have been replaced by the effects of the Calamities awakened:

1) Instead of the umpteenth fake death by Kanjuro who is now a flaming ink monster because why not, just turn King into Rodan and allow the Wildfire to set the whole Onigashima in fire.

2) Instead of chapters and chapters of Queen doing nothing while people turn into ice onis, save it for the last part of his fight with Sanji and turn him into a gigantic humanoid brachiosaur that exhales huge clouds of viral gas out of his jaws. Just imagine awakened King and Queen arguing while fighting Zoro and Sanji because their disasters are affecting each other (King doesn't want coldness and Queen fears King's fire will stop his virus from spreading).

3) Have Jack run like crazy while draining every drop of moisture through an enhanced form of fishman karate allowed by his awakened stats. Since he's now stronger, have Inu and Neko team up to defeat him in a way that Raizou can only release his Zunesha water safely once Jack is gone, this way intensifying the link between the minks and the ninja.

These are quick ideas that of course could be way better, but heck, what better for three guys labelled "Calamities" than actually turning into the embodiment of disaster in the form of three gargantuan beasts capable of setting everything on fire, spreading viruses like crazy and drying the world off?

 

[rerere]

Forget the awakening, the crew doesnt even have any legit zoan users besides the top 10 (calamity + flying)
everyone else is just...

The panel in Punk Hazard vs The reality in Wano

That's shivering

 

[sanjikun]

Kaido explained what awakening was and when it is achieved. He obviously has it.

Like BM and ACoC Oda just didnt bother explicitly mentioning it.

 

[Midnight Delight]

The worst part about Hiyori is that she calls herself the daughter of a Samurai yet didn't even bother to try to get Self Defence lessons despite her being enjoying athleticism as a kid

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

You know what's worse? Many other plot points in this arc, if rearranged, could have been replaced by the effects of the Calamities awakened:

1) Instead of the umpteenth fake death by Kanjuro who is now a flaming ink monster because why not, just turn King into Rodan and allow the Wildfire to set the whole Onigashima in fire.

2) Instead of chapters and chapters of Queen doing nothing while people turn into ice onis, save it for the last part of his fight with Sanji and turn him into a gigantic humanoid brachiosaur that exhales huge clouds of viral gas out of his jaws. Just imagine awakened King and Queen arguing while fighting Zoro and Sanji because their disasters are affecting each other (King doesn't want coldness and Queen fears King's fire will stop his virus from spreading).

3) Have Jack run like crazy while draining every drop of moisture through an enhanced form of fishman karate allowed by his awakened stats. Since he's now stronger, have Inu and Neko team up to defeat him in a way that Raizou can only release his Zunesha water safely once Jack is gone, this way intensifying the link between the minks and the ninja.

These are quick ideas that of course could be way better, but heck, what better for three guys labelled "Calamities" than actually turning into the embodiment of disaster in the form of three gargantuan beasts capable of setting everything on fire, spreading viruses like crazy and drying the world off?

Damn, I absolutely love all of this. Queen’s in particular is really inventive. Imagining that, the Ice Oni threat would’ve been so much tenser given you gotta take down Queen before you can even go into treating it.

 

[Twin Milf]

Shirahoshi was quickly replaced with her brother in the hody fight (also don’t get why when luffy fighting with shirahoshi would’ve been more impactful)

Shirahoshi was busy with leading the Noah away at that point

And with what? A shamisen?

I mean that female ninja in Orochi's forces did lol

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Damn, I absolutely love all of this. Queen’s in particular is really inventive. Imagining that, the Ice Oni threat would’ve been so much tenser given you gotta take down Queen before you can even go into treating it.

Yeah love also all of this above, every calamity would take a special meaning for the raid, kinda sad that Oda and his team can't write stuff like above.

 

[sanjikun]

Awakening is also reserved for post-High Tiers. Law/Kid took down a Yonko 2 v. 1 and still hadnt mastered awakening. They were up a level from Zoro/Sanji v. King/Queen.

I've said CoC users in their prime are all stronger than High Tiers. Katakuri/Joker both reinforced this notion with awakening.

 

[Twin Milf]

You know what's worse? Many other plot points in this arc, if rearranged, could have been replaced by the effects of the Calamities awakened:

1) Instead of the umpteenth fake death by Kanjuro who is now a flaming ink monster because why not, just turn King into Rodan and allow the Wildfire to set the whole Onigashima in fire.

2) Instead of chapters and chapters of Queen doing nothing while people turn into ice onis, save it for the last part of his fight with Sanji and turn him into a gigantic humanoid brachiosaur that exhales huge clouds of viral gas out of his jaws. Just imagine awakened King and Queen arguing while fighting Zoro and Sanji because their disasters are affecting each other (King doesn't want coldness and Queen fears King's fire will stop his virus from spreading).

3) Have Jack run like crazy while draining every drop of moisture through an enhanced form of fishman karate allowed by his awakened stats. Since he's now stronger, have Inu and Neko team up to defeat him in a way that Raizou can only release his Zunesha water safely once Jack is gone, this way intensifying the link between the minks and the ninja.

These are quick ideas that of course could be way better, but heck, what better for three guys labelled "Calamities" than actually turning into the embodiment of disaster in the form of three gargantuan beasts capable of setting everything on fire, spreading viruses like crazy and drying the world off?

Wasn't the whole Live Floor at one point entirely on fire due to King's flames?

 

[Midnight Delight]

Jack is such a weirdly used character, he's basically a YC3.5 with YC1 stamina

 

[Steven]

The closest thing they had to an upper hand was when Kaido was the last man standing and Luffy “died”. I never believed the raid should fail but Oda should’ve had some losses on the alliances side. And losses not directly attributed to Kaido, let the crew do some shit

He was "dead" for 1!!! Chapter and Kaido did nothing.

He shoot one small Boro Breath and Marco took it.Thats it.Ofc we dont know the time between JB awaken and whatever Kaido did.But still

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Jack is such a weirdly used character, he's basically a YC3.5 with YC1 stamina

Jacks entire fighting style is outlasting his opponent. So AP wise he’s in the lower end but his stamina is so strong his opponent will fall first.

 

[Steven]

What was Marcos role in the Arc btw?

 

[Owl Ki]

What was Marcos role in the Arc btw?

Not going to lie, I completely forgot that Marco was actually in this arc.

 

[Twin Milf]

What was Marcos role in the Arc btw?

Support pretty much