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The face when swordbois don't get a mention.
Is that supposed to sway me?
Boy, I don't care about veterans or who you consider reasonable, I'm not going to sway based on what the loudest members think. In before I get kicked out of this thread by @Admiral Lee Hung True. But Oda has shown their strength many times by now, literally countless. And I'm sure the defeat will be just as crazy.
I'm a sword boi.
Nah, I merely mentioned them as evidence for my claim that the Admirals ~ Yonkou side won the debate.
Is that supposed to sway me? Boy, I don't care about veterans or who you consider reasonable, I'm not going to sway based on what the loudest members think. In before I get kicked out of this thread by @Admiral Lee Hung
Boy, I don't care about veterans or who you consider reasonable, I'm not going to sway based on what the loudest members think. In before I get kicked out of this thread by @Admiral Lee Hung
Good morning y'all
Another day, another remarkable job by our favorite ban-immune neighborhood troll @Relapse
Another day, another remarkable job by our favorite ban-immune neighborhood troll @Relapse
Relapse is the realest ****
A fellow big-dicked memeologist? check
A beyond stunning snitch avy that correctly depicts Fishanks' daily habit? check
Part of the wadmiral pocket sanctuary? check
To be fair, the Waiting Room is trash, so if I get to see quality memes here then I am cool with it. 
The problem is that physical strength is meaningless without a charismatic or inspiring character driving that strength towards an understandable goal or motivation.
Whitebeard’s character was not defined by his strength of arms but his strength of character i.e. his personality. He was driven, sympathetic, motivated, understandable, passionate, inspiring.
Whitebeard got utterly dominated in every head on engagement with a Top Tier yet his character is never shat on. Why? Cause his character is respected.
The thing about respect is that respect is earned. The problem is that neither Yonko antagonist in Wano has done anything to earn any respect in any from the fandom.
The only thing propping Kaido up was his raw intimidation factor and supposed hype, both of which were shattered by Oden and the Hostage Crises.
When Kaido goes down, his defeat will most likely be meaningless because Oda gave Kaido’s character no meaning. Yes, he could change that but after Linlin, I highly doubt it.
I associate you with Mihawk. Lol.
The problem is that physical strength is meaningless without a charismatic or inspiring character driving that strength towards an understandable goal or motivation.
Whitebeard’s character was not defined by his strength of arms but his strength of character i.e. his personality. He was driven, sympathetic, motivated, understandable, passionate, inspiring.
Whitebeard got utterly dominated in every head on engagement with a Top Tier yet his character is never shat on. Why? Cause his character is respected.
The thing about respect is that respect is earned. The problem is that neither Yonko antagonist in Wano has done anything to earn any respect in any from the fandom.
The only thing propping Kaido up was his raw intimidation factor and supposed hype, both of which were shattered by Oden and the Hostage Crises.
When Kaido goes down, his defeat will most likely be meaningless because Oda gave Kaido’s character no meaning. Yes, he could change that but after Linlin, I highly doubt it.
What about those who are in both?
Obviously Kaido and Big Mom are quite literally monsters, and that's part of why Oda didn't give them a personality. I'm not saying they have personality.
Personality? Respect? Those have nothing to do with power levels. You're mixing apples and pears for no reason.
I would argue that his defeat will mean something in terms of heroes uniting to defeat him. That will be the whole point. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised that Oda gave them no personality so that we wouldn't feel sorry for the infinite united attacks on them. Like we do for Whitebeard. But the fact will remain that only united forces could defeat a Yonko.
Personality? Respect? Those have nothing to do with power levels. You're mixing apples and pears for no reason.
I would argue that his defeat will mean something in terms of heroes uniting to defeat him. That will be the whole point. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised that Oda gave them no personality so that we wouldn't feel sorry for the infinite united attacks on them. Like we do for Whitebeard. But the fact will remain that only united forces could defeat a Yonko.
What the hell, why were my and @Seraphoenix posts deleted?
Hahahah
I feel ostracised for my Zoro wank.
That is a weak excuse for Oda not to give them any personality of any kind. I have seen far greater “monsters” than those two in fiction that still had personalities.
Off of the top of my head, characters such as Knives from Trigun MAXIMUM, Mangoku from Kingdom and Makaku from Battle Angel Alita are all “monstrous” characters done well. They all have personality, they all have concrete motivations and they are all characters whose view of the world is explored.
To not explore an antagonist just because making them a hate sink character is easier, is simply lazy writing.
I never claimed that you did say that.
You are correct. They do not have anything to do with power scaling. That is the point.
Dark Admiral said this.
This was your response to that.
So the topic was Whitebeard’s death and the reasoning for why it was impactful.
My point was that Whitebeard’s death was not memorable/impactful because he was strong. In fact, his entire character arc revolved around how weak he had become.
Whitebeard’s death was memorable because he was an objectively well written character that the audience was given more than enough reasons to respect as a character.
Linlin and Kaido are both objectively mediocre characters with no respectable qualities and no amount of “sugoi, how stronk” from Oda is going to change that.
When these two characters fall, it will be nowhere near as meaningful as Whitebeard’s demise because Oda failed to give these characters any meaning to begin with.
“The heroes” always unite to defeat any antagonist in any story with a protagonist versus antagonist dynamic. It also happens in nearly every single arc of One Piece.
With this logic, one could replace Kaido with a block of cheese and as long as Cheesedo provides enough of an obstacle for the “heroes” to unite against then it has done enough to fulfil it’s narrative obligations as an antagonist.
This level of “meaning” is utterly superficial. Antagonistic characters should be more than just obstacles to be battered down by “the good guys”.
Off of the top of my head, characters such as Knives from Trigun MAXIMUM, Mangoku from Kingdom and Makaku from Battle Angel Alita are all “monstrous” characters done well. They all have personality, they all have concrete motivations and they are all characters whose view of the world is explored.
To not explore an antagonist just because making them a hate sink character is easier, is simply lazy writing.
I never claimed that you did say that.
You are correct. They do not have anything to do with power scaling. That is the point.
Dark Admiral said this.
This was your response to that.
So the topic was Whitebeard’s death and the reasoning for why it was impactful.
My point was that Whitebeard’s death was not memorable/impactful because he was strong. In fact, his entire character arc revolved around how weak he had become.
Whitebeard’s death was memorable because he was an objectively well written character that the audience was given more than enough reasons to respect as a character.
Linlin and Kaido are both objectively mediocre characters with no respectable qualities and no amount of “sugoi, how stronk” from Oda is going to change that.
When these two characters fall, it will be nowhere near as meaningful as Whitebeard’s demise because Oda failed to give these characters any meaning to begin with.
“The heroes” always unite to defeat any antagonist in any story with a protagonist versus antagonist dynamic. It also happens in nearly every single arc of One Piece.
With this logic, one could replace Kaido with a block of cheese and as long as Cheesedo provides enough of an obstacle for the “heroes” to unite against then it has done enough to fulfil it’s narrative obligations as an antagonist.
This level of “meaning” is utterly superficial. Antagonistic characters should be more than just obstacles to be battered down by “the good guys”.
