Powers & Abilities Adv CoC is a requirement for Admiral rank

[The DevilMaster]

They don't have it, it's so obvious and clear as day, they are bums.

Post automatically merged: Jun 21, 2025

I entered the topic thinking it would be full of panels of admirals using Acoc, but what I found were panels from 10 years ago that are somehow better than watching an admiral fighting and getting beaten on screen without demonstrating any of it, since this is the first thing that every guy with Acoc after Wano is doing, which is demonstrating that he has it.


- Kizaru fought Luffy and did not show that he possesses it

- Kuzan fought Garp. Garp was listed in the Vc as being a real user and Kuzan was not

- Green Bul and Fujitora never showed any signs.

- Akainu will not possess it because his equal Kuzan does not.

It's all in the hands of the old and new generation is what it is.

 

[park_min young]

The moment Oda made acoc a requiremet to beat even bums like HKs, the power itself lost all prestige. Coc will be given to every top-tier.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Why....

It's an oversimplification, but the leaders of smaller kingdoms(or nations, whatever you want to call it) would allow a different sovereign to ultimately control their *nation*

The idea that history is lesser conquerors falling to greater conquerors is the most peasant brained take imaginable bro

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

lmfao Kurwa is a dick but he would cook MZTS alive in a discussion, he knows it too.

I'd pay hundreds to get my cock sucked this hard

 

[ShadowStyle369]

Can’t read everything at the moment but just throwing out my two cents I wholeheartedly believe they all will have it and agree with the title

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

His arguments are literally just that Admirals deserve CoC because they’re all gigachads and the greatest characters in fiction. What are we supposed to say lol?

Like they honestly treat eachother as if they're on average ten times smarter than Albert Einstein when a lot of the time their arguments rely on fallacies and their personal feelings about the characters. To this day Admiral fans still wank that SBS where Oda said Akainu could be the PK in a year, ignoring the fact that he obviously meant he would have stomped most of Luffy's pre timeskip opponents and it would have turned people off from the manga.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Instead of insulting kurwa like that, y'all can just try to refute all his arguments in this thread?

They cant refute anything he’s said, hence the insults

 

[GodofDarkness]

Terrible to bet against Akainu having it, which means so does Kuzan.

It's very hard to imagine Oda not giving Fujitora CoC with his character archetype, and since Fujitora and Greenbull are a packaged deal this likely means Greenbull will also have it, it wouldn't even make sense at that point to single out Kizaru.

This thread will probably age well, I can even see a straight up statement confirming all Admirals have CoC when CoC becomes completely common ground. Oda tried to preserve its cool factor for as long as he could, but Chinjao's words are damning, he basically confirmed all Admirals and Yonkou have it, word for word. Maybe Oda changed his mind after he wrote that Chinjao scene, but the recent developments in the manga are bringing us full circle.

Kuzan doesn't have it otherwise he would've used it against Garp.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Kuzan doesn't have it otherwise he would've used it against Garp.

He did

 

[soupongo]

The idea that history is lesser conquerors falling to greater conquerors is the most peasant brained take imaginable bro

History generally? No, but the history of conquest, is all about leaders in a lesser position conceding to leaders in a better position making concessions. Even today, you have many vassal states that aren't necessarily truly sovereign, certainly most *states* in the past

 

[GodofDarkness]

He did

No he didn't it was his DF infused with CoA

 

[Albino 👑]

I agree

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I agree

How does this prove they have ACoC? You can be a top tier without ACoC.

 

[Albino 👑]

How does this prove they have ACoC? You can be a top tier without ACoC.

Which top tiers don’t have conquerors?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Which top tiers don’t have conquerors?

Kuzan

 

[DarkWitch]

I always believed that Akainu, Kuzan, and Fujitora would have CoC, but I was always bit skeptical on Kizaru and Green Bull.

However when thinking about it, it doesn't make sense if only three out of five of the Admirals have CoC, so yeah I do believe they all have CoC now.

I was kind of hoping that maybe two or three wouldn't have it, and that they became Admirals without having CoC, but seeing how Oda loves giving away CoC like it is candy, I see no reason why they shouldn't have it.

If characters like Chinjao, Yamato, Katakuri, and even Kid can have CoC, I don't see why the Admirals can't have it.

Before people were saying only Pirates can have CoC until it was revealed that both Sengoku and Garp have it, then the same people started to make excuses for why those two have it but the Admirals for some reason can't have it.

 

[Albino 👑]

Kuzan

Kuzan is definitely a conqueror

Worst case scenario he and kizaru are mentally nerfing themselves similar to katakuri

 

[RyoQ]

There's a reason he's been accepted as possibly the worst or dumbest Admiral fan here (which is a Herculean feat considering how dumb people like Lee Hung can be)

Wurwa W

Post automatically merged: Jun 21, 2025

However when thinking about it, it doesn't make sense if only three out of five of the Admirals have CoC, so yeah I do believe they all have CoC now.

We'll all admit Oda is a formulaic hack of a writer and point out obvious patterns (Roger/Luffy, Sanji/Gaban, Rayleigh/Zoro) but will call it insane to point out other obvious parallels like Old Admirals having CoC (Sengoku, Garp) so New Admirals will have it too

 

[DarkWitch]

There's a reason he's been accepted as possibly the worst or dumbest Admiral fan here (which is a Herculean feat considering how dumb people like Lee Hung can be)

Instead of insulting kurwa like that, y'all can just try to refute all his arguments in this thread?

Guess what's stupid as well: writing posts like these.

I don't like kurwa, imo he is one of the worst users on this site, but regardless of how I feel, this topic doesn't come off as a bait or a troll.

It is just a regular topic that explains why the Admirals have CoC, it isn't even a topic about why the Admirals are better than the Yonko's.

His arguments are literally just that Admirals deserve CoC because they’re all gigachads and the greatest characters in fiction. What are we supposed to say lol?

Did you even actually read the topic? Put your Admiral hatred for once away, you Shankstard.

Lmfao you can't be serious...you fell off if you read the OP and that's what you got out of it.

If this topic was about Shanks and praising on how powerful Shanks is, he wouldn't be saying what he said.

 

[Uncle Van]

Sengoku and Garp got COC, but characters that are more narratively important, antagonistic to the MC, and stated by Chinjao that Luffy will challenge his fellow COC users and that overcoming the admirals is foolish, won't have it? Just because? Yeah right lol