Speculations After Sanji beats King you would understand he’s dog walking Doflamingo

Cracker can stop and push back EG G3 Luffy and you with Law’s “battleship” or other objects of that size can do a thing! That’s not mention Cracker doing any counter attacks.
Luffy's Gear 3 does not have the weight of a fucking battleship. Even with a Elephant Gatling he couldn't destroy Noah.





RS Sanji can't even beat Law (and certainly not Cracker). I don't care if "Dressrosa" or "Wano" Law.
 

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Luffy's Gear 3 does not have the weight of a fucking battleship. Even with a Elephant Gatling he couldn't destroy Noah.





RS Sanji can't even beat Law (and certainly not Cracker). I don't care if "Dressrosa" or "Wano" Law.
Rare occasion you will see Sanji boi not defending that trash.

All you have to do is pick Doffy or Law and kun is coming after your ass.
 
By portrayal the only people ahead of Doflamingo are Admirals and Yonkos. Sanji/Zoro have to get to that level to confidently say they'll beat him. That's not happening until close to EOS. The only ones in Wano who have gotten to that level are Kaido, Big Mom and Luffy.

If Luffy had Doflamingo on his side in this war, there would be mass slaughter against the Beast Pirates atm. Limbs would go flying left and right.
 
By portrayal the only people ahead of Doflamingo are Admirals and Yonkos. Sanji/Zoro have to get to that level to confidently say they'll beat him. That's not happening until close to EOS. The only ones in Wano who have gotten to that level are Kaido, Big Mom and Luffy.

If Luffy had Doflamingo on his side in this war, there would be mass slaughter against the Beast Pirates atm. Limbs would go flying left and right.
Kaido: “If only Joker wasn’t a terrible weakling”
Kaido: “You’re not weak, Jack”

Not to mention Kaido also sending Jack to capture the two people who defeated Doflamingo.
 
Your entire argument is that Kaido is a massive idiot. He saw Luffy beat Katakuri and Cracker on the paper, and sent Jack after him and Law combined.
Kaido had a bias against Linlin, so it would make sense for him to be downplay her subordinates, especially since it’s implied he hasn’t seen them in over 20 years. However, it wouldn’t make much sense for him to downplay Doffy considering that Doffy was his most important ally and Kaido should thus have a favorable impression of him
 
Kaido had a bias against Linlin, so it would make sense for him to be downplay her subordinates, especially since it’s implied he hasn’t seen them in over 20 years. However, it wouldn’t make much sense for him to downplay Doffy considering that Doffy was his most important ally and Kaido should thus have a favorable impression of him
He sent Jack after Luffy AND Law. Their bounties combined were 2x what Jack is.
 
Takt is literally dropping rocks on someone. How can it be weaker or stronger? You’re literally making up shit to justify your own wank.

Jack got ass raped by Zunisha’s TRUNK. That’s not island sized. He literally got 1 shot.



You’re a moron. Law could casually bust mountains. How is that “base or Gear 3”?
This is fiction, throwing rocks can have a different level of strength, just look at the tact used against Kaido vs big mom

You can say all you want about Jack vs zushia but the manga shows him fine after getting hit by the trunk
 
Doffy on Jack’s tier? Are you trolling or what? You think Oda is going to team up Law and Luffy for Jack? Not even Jozu is on Doffy’s level, let alone Jack who got manhandled by Ashura Doji.

This guy is saying Sanji got so strong that he surpassed Vergo, Law, Luffy and Luffy/Law combined. That is stupidity of the highest degree.

Sanji is the exact same level he was >= Veterans. Now with Raid Suit he’s >= YC2.
No, because Jack is more limited with his CQC style, he is not as versatile as Doffy, so ofc there won't be a need to team up those two against him. Rock, scissors, paper. And anyway, that was far from being a team vs Doffy.
But that doesn't mean that on overall he is weaker than Doffy. He has other qualities which would make up for this handicap.
Jack had the upper hand against Ashura Douji when he went on guard and serious, reread.

Yes, Sanji surpassed Vergo long ago, in WCI.
Luffy and Law only combined their strength twice against Doffy (and not really combined, since they only switched places). Luffy dealing with the Black Knight is only another typical stall element in Oda's writing.
By your logic, Law fought 1 vs 2 against Doffy and Trebol, which is not the case since it was only in some punctual moments of the fight at most.
That fight was far from being a proper 2 vs 1. And later is even clear when Luffy mentioned about Doffy being injured and Doffy mentioned about Luffy being tired, meaning that it was more a 1 vs 1 (either with Law or with Luffy) with some situational moments. So there is no point in bringing up this to the discussion here about Sanji's lvl.
A proper 2 vs 1 against Doffy would look similar to Jack vs InuNeko.

Current Sanji > Sanji WCI > Sanji DR
Pretty simple, progression, like it happened during all the manga.
That's why Sanji now can deal with Queen and in WCI could only deal with Oven or Daifuku.
 
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Post wano Sanji might be able to make Doffy use two atacks instead of just one.
Doffy's awakening had Luffy realize that it was best to dodge and that was post GK. Sanji might be pretty fast and show off consistent AP in the future but he is most likely inferior to Dressrosa G4 in all fundamental stats expecially durability if we are referencing to the exposed points of his suit. Let's wait though.:cheers:
 
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