Future Events Against who will Shanks show off?

[nik87]

I just said that Doffy was far superior than Law. You said it was because CqC. We know that Law also is very great at CqC, he was trained by everyone from Donquixote Crew.

Doffy is a winner because he is a better CQC fighter than Law. Mediocre CQC is Law's weak spot.
Smoker has bested him in CQC but luckily for Law, Smoker lacks the offensive to put him down.

Be it CqC, DF, haki, Doffy was far superior. Reason I said it can't be just one tier.

You dont have to be superior in everything to win.
Zoro is still and always will be inferior to King's and Kaido's physical stats.
That will never change. You cant outgrow such naturally gifted bodies.
And yet, he can beat them due to other factors.

 

[Psychiatrist]

Law was at that point above all YC2s while Doffy was YC1, overall same tier.
Oden and Kaido were same tier and did you see a lethality advantage?

The same lethality that had doffy had did nothing to luffy.

Is it people here or Oda who keeps Luffy away from swordsmen for 1070+ chapters?
Why is Zoro created if Luffy can do it? You think Luffy will casually be able to achieve Zoro's dream?
Strawhats' dreams are created so that only them can achieve them, nobody else.

Luffy had fought swordsmans before like craker with high grade swords and even won it.
Why is luffy created and why does zoro not fight with the strongest? Its because zoro would get L more often. Its actually ODA that protects his promise of not loosing. Its job of his captain. You think zoro will casually be pirate king?

 

[GeneralP123]

Voted for Kid by mistake, Kid is too easy of a fight for Shanks, so I guess he'll show off his full arsenal in his fight against Teach.

 

[nik87]

The same lethality that had doffy had did nothing to luffy.

Luffy had fought swordsmans before like craker with high grade swords and even won it.
Why is luffy created and why does zoro not fight with the strongest? Its because zoro would get L more often. Its actually ODA that protects his promise of not loosing. Its job of his captain. You think zoro will casually be pirate king?

Doffy decided to poke Luffy instead if cutting him... Or Luffy dodged decapitation moves.
Cracker attacked him with biscuits, once landed unnamed move and almost took Luffy's arm.
Zoro always fights the greatest challenge, you saw in Wano too. Cutting King was a greater challenge than cutting Kaido.
No, Zoro will not be PK, despite making the same journey because the crew members arent awarded by PK committee.
Zoro is strong enough to avoid L's while Luffy keeps scoring them due to lack of strength. Zoro's goal is literally targeting the strongest people, that's why he only expressed the desire to fight two people - Kaido and Mihawk, both who happen to be World's Strongest.

 

[[No Name]]

I missclicked lol.
I think he'll show something against Kidd then Blackbeard and then well r.i.p shanks It seems.

 

[Psychiatrist]

Doffy decided to poke Luffy instead if cutting him... Or Luffy dodged decapitation moves.
Cracker attacked him with biscuits, once landed unnamed move and almost took Luffy's arm.

Dodging is supposed to be a part of fighting right. Nothing to say here. You wanted a vs swordsman and you got Luffy winning against a swordsman, that too with a high graded sword.

Zoro always fights the greatest challenge, you saw in Wano too. Cutting King was a greater challenge than cutting Kaido.

Its luffy actually that defeated kaido.

Zoro is strong enough to avoid L's while Luffy keeps scoring them due to lack of strength. Zoro's goal is literally targeting the strongest people, that's why he only expressed the desire to fight two people - Kaido and Mihawk, both who happen to be World's Strongest

Expressing your desire to fight and actually winning the fight is 2 different thing. Zoro has not defeated kaido or any top tier as of yet, while luffy has the luxury of defeating a top tier on panel. So speak wisely brother.

 

[nik87]

Dodging is supposed to be a part of fighting right. Nothing to say here. You wanted a vs swordsman and you got Luffy winning against a swordsman, that too with a high graded sword.

Its luffy actually that defeated kaido.


Expressing your desire to fight and actually winning the fight is 2 different thing. Zoro has not defeated kaido or any top tier as of yet, while luffy has the luxury of defeating a top tier on panel. So speak wisely brother.

Neither is an argument for Luffy beating a swordsman.
And cutting King was still the greater challenge.
At what cost didnt he defeat a top tier? 7 L's despite 15 ppl helping him. I wouldnt brag with such brother.

 

[Psychiatrist]

I wouldnt brag with such brother

Oh man, for the thought of zkk will happen only you were having guilty pleasure week in and week out. We luffy fans have godfy defeat him in actual panel. Why wouldnt we brag about it?

 

[Cruxroux]

Oh man, for the thought of zkk will happen only you were having guilty pleasure week in and week out. We luffy fans have godfy defeat him in actual panel. Why wouldnt we brag about it?

Lmao you forgot the part where he Got fucked thrice and died once while doing it.

 

[Psychiatrist]

Lmao you forgot the part where he Got fucked thrice and died once while doing it.

Who was kaido?

 

[nik87]

Oh man, for the thought of zkk will happen only you were having guilty pleasure week in and week out. We luffy fans have godfy defeat him in actual panel. Why wouldnt we brag about it?

ZKK was the best part of Wano - fandom sweating and malding because of a theory.
Because nobody sane would brag about losing 7 times with help of 15 people to win once.

 

[grey matter]

Kid was mutilated off panel. There is no such thing as lethality advantage between fighters of similar tier.

We saw that with Kaido vs Oden tho. Both same tier, but the lethality of the swordsman meant that Kaido can't take multiple number of high end attacks from Oden.
I think 4-5 of the togen totsuka would put down Kaido, and Kaido is the tankiest character we've seen so far. And unlike Luffy, swordsmanship isn't particularly a matchup issue for Kaido.

I just wanted to hear this. People here expect luffy to never be able to beat a swordsman, somehow.

Obviously he would beat swordsmen below his tier. It becomes tough when both happen to be in same tier, because a component of Luffy's overall power level is negated here.

I honestly think this was the role of Zoro, at least when we started out. To deal with characters Luffy can't. Unlike with other SHs, Zoro's primary role was to be the fighter of the SHs; they complemented each other well, especially pre TS where haki wasn't a thing.. For example, Luffy wouldn't have been able to defeat Mr1.

 

[Psychiatrist]

We saw that with Kaido vs Oden tho. Both same tier, but the lethality of the swordsman meant that Kaido can't take multiple number of high end attacks from Oden.

So, According to you, the SWORD is the one that makes the actual difference? I take it as swords are the ultimate weapon here.

I honestly think this was the role of Zoro, at least when we started out. To deal with characters Luffy can't. Unlike with other SHs, Zoro's primary role was to be the fighter of the SHs; they complemented each other well, especially pre TS where haki wasn't a thing.

As you have mentioned, each have their primary role. Zoro, will go after a swordsman and Luffy will go after the strongest.

For example, Luffy wouldn't have been able to defeat Mr1.

I too think zoro would not have been able to defeat crocodile at that time.

 

[grey matter]

@Psychiatrist
Yes. Specifically blades (WB's supreme grade blade also comes in here) are the ultimate tools in OP, apart from DFs. There is a reason why every top tier so far except Garp has been either a swordsman or a DF user.

Pretty much, yeah. Sometimes Zoro goes after opponents that would be troublesome for Luffy, like Mr1 and Pica. King though, Luffy post 1010 could've handled him as well.

Yes, but tbh though Crocodile was too much for anyone that arc. The perfect example would be Enel and Doflamingo. Luffy was the perfect matchup against Enel (immunity), and a great matchup against Doflamingo (he can expand his body and break free from the strings, while Zoro would be toast once he'd tied up)

 

[mly90]

So, According to you, the SWORD is the one that makes the actual difference? I take it as swords are the ultimate weapon here.

Swords won't be able cut through most durable creature if the wielder isn't exceptionally strong and posses ridiculous level of haki
While df can elevate absolute fodder to one of the strongest even if they fail to unlock it's full potential. Quality swords only make difference in the hands of the strongest

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

@nik87 does chapter 1079 look like shanks show off ?
I think so .
‘So I am wrong to say shanks will use named attack on Blackbeard or greenbull but it actually used on Kidd .

 

[zorovsanji]

If shanks and bb won't show off with each other then the only choice would be Sanji. Monster trio vs remaining yonkos Bb/shanks/mihawk

 

[nik87]

@nik87 does chapter 1079 look like shanks show off ?
I think so .
‘So I am wrong to say shanks will use named attack on Blackbeard or greenbull but it actually used on Kidd .

I dont think this is it.
It's just one move, Shanks needs to show everything he has to offer. If this is all he gets before he is iff screened, it would be terrible.

 

[BillSlipton]

Sanji will fight him

 

[OGshine]

S4nji will die to him

i agree