Current Events Alliance will lose this round

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

No,
Luffy already has the means to hurt Kaido.

The battles can go days...

One way or another, Oda is yet to debunk Hawkins predictions
While Toki/Oden prophecies didn't include BMP

prophecy doesnt have to include big mom
kaido certainly goes down
and if she wants to tag along then she does as well. the author didnt have to reiterate that prophecy when all 5 arrived on the roof but he did which is quite telling. now whether you think that happens now or two weeks from now, one thing straight , they will be the ones responsible for taking down kaido . the battle can go days and thats fine and dandy , more reason to why the raid doesnt fail.

you would have to ignore the samurai's that were gathered sank their boats, they dont plan on having a redo
certain matchups have been set, (jinbei who's who) , (franky sasaki) , you would have to expect them to lose these bouts as well. if they win , I see no reason why the other two shouldnt recover and be involved in the same bout .


fujitora , sabo were present in dressrossa
were under the birdcage
both stronger than luffy and law
both would have been suitable to take down doffy if the plot allowed it . But IT WAS NOT THEIR PLACE. expect similar things . marines arrive probably to imprison defeated pirates or general cleanup but thinking they will be vital in taking down either kaido or big mom is not what the story has pointed at.


hawkins prediction isnt a problem here
again hawkins doesnt say luffy will be here a month from now
2 weeks from now he could be partaking in a very different war.
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Who the hell said kizaru/Garp will beat kaido?

Kidd and Luffy + Law will beat Kaido
Navy will handle BM more than Kaido

Navy will also weaken Kaido or BM herself will betray and weaken kaido

The problem with you guys
You think "kizaru/Garp cominh" means Luffy won't beat kaido.

Luffy in this arc will surpass Garp, Oden and Rayleigh
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Marco can't do much even if he went up
He isn't adding anything

Once again, Oden never said Worstgen will beat BM and Kaido
Only Kaido!

Imagine believing Kaido will fall without Navy being around.
Or both Emperors fall without Navy being involved

When Xebec, WB, Shiki all lost where Navy top guys were involved.

read above
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Who the hell said kizaru/Garp will beat kaido?

Kidd and Luffy + Law will beat Kaido
Navy will handle BM more than Kaido

Navy will also weaken Kaido or BM herself will betray and weaken kaido

The problem with you guys
You think "kizaru/Garp cominh" means Luffy won't beat kaido.

Luffy in this arc will surpass Garp, Oden and Rayleigh
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Marco can't do much even if he went up
He isn't adding anything

Once again, Oden never said Worstgen will beat BM and Kaido
Only Kaido!

Imagine believing Kaido will fall without Navy being around.
Or both Emperors fall without Navy being involved

When Xebec, WB, Shiki all lost where Navy top guys were involved.

yeah we are not going to act like marco isnt stronger than everyone on the roof bar luffy lmao

 

[Bil02]

No one showing up to beat these yonko. Oden said it was these guys who will be the ones to strike down kaido

That's the problem then.
Big Mom is also there as well as the big mom pirates who are going to join the war sooner or later despite Marco's words.
The prophecy talks about Kaido only so unless Marco comes to stall Big Mom leaving King and Queen free,i don't see how the 5 sn will win against the 2 Emperors right now.

The prophecy also mentionned 9 shadows who will take down Kaido,so there are 4 other people who will get involved in Kaido's downfall already implying these 5 can't win against Kaido and Big Mom.

Either Big mom betrays Kaido soon or the 5 Sn are losing this fight round of the fight.

 

[Garp the Fist]

Big Mom is also there as well as the big mom pirates who are going to join the war sooner or later despite Marco's words.

And how are they going to do that? They can’t climb a waterfall, never mind fly to Onigashima

 

[HA001]

That's the problem then.
Big Mom is also there as well as the big mom pirates who are going to join the war sooner or later despite Marco's words.
The prophecy talks about Kaido only so unless Marco comes to stall Big Mom leaving King and Queen free,i don't see how the 5 sn will win against the 2 Emperors right now.

The prophecy also mentionned 9 shadows who will take down Kaido,so there are 4 other people who will get involved in Kaido's downfall already implying these 5 can't win against Kaido and Big Mom.

Either Big mom betrays Kaido or the 5 Sn are losing this fight.

It was never said 9 shadows will beat kaido.
Oden words were repeated for these 5.
Who said memes crew will come ? Oda wouldnt have marco say that for no reason.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

That's the problem then.
Big Mom is also there as well as the big mom pirates who are going to join the war sooner or later despite Marco's words.
The prophecy talks about Kaido only so unless Marco comes to stall Big Mom leaving King and Queen free,i don't see how the 5 sn will win against the 2 Emperors right now.

The prophecy also mentionned 9 shadows who will take down Kaido,so there are 4 other people who will get involved in Kaido's downfall already implying these 5 can't win against Kaido and Big Mom.

Either Big mom betrays Kaido soon or the 5 Sn are losing this fight round of the fight.

9 shadows to orochi
or kaido
I have heard different things.
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ON A MOONLIT NIGHT
NINE SAMURAI GHOST - scabbards seems like it
WIll emerge to kill you - in context to orochi

this panel has been abused
the scabbards arent done
their role can still be observed.

 

[zzShinichi]

Yeah,

9 shadows to orochi
or kaido
I have heard different things.
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ON A MOONLIT NIGHT
NINE SAMURAI GHOST - scabbards seems like it
WIll emerge to kill you - in context to orochi

this panel has been abused
the scabbards arent done
their role can still be observed.

Shit i forgot this panel. Then yeah, the Nine Shadows could still be the Scabbards.
That kills off the chance any extra 4 members will join the roof then

 

[Jo_Ndule]

And how are they going to do that? They can’t climb a waterfall, never mind fly to Onigashima

They can climb the waterfall
They were doing that
It's only Marco/King who stopped them.

 

[HA001]

They can climb the waterfall
They were doing that
It's only Marco/King who stopped them.

What difference does that make onigashima is gone.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

That's the problem then.
Big Mom is also there as well as the big mom pirates who are going to join the war sooner or later despite Marco's words.
The prophecy talks about Kaido only so unless Marco comes to stall Big Mom leaving King and Queen free,i don't see how the 5 sn will win against the 2 Emperors right now.

The prophecy also mentionned 9 shadows who will take down Kaido,so there are 4 other people who will get involved in Kaido's downfall already implying these 5 can't win against Kaido and Big Mom.

Either Big mom betrays Kaido soon or the 5 Sn are losing this fight round of the fight.

People think Oda is gonna have 5 Dudes ( 1 top tier + 1 inbetweener + 3 high tiers) beat 2 emperors when 9 dudes (5 high tiers and 4 mid tiers ) lost mid diff to 1 emperor alone
2 top tiers can hardly beat 1 great pirate.

Yeah... SNs will beat not just kaido here but also BM without Navy being around
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prophecy doesnt have to include big mom
kaido certainly goes down
and if she wants to tag along then she does as well. the author didnt have to reiterate that prophecy when all 5 arrived on the roof but he did which is quite telling. now whether you think that happens now or two weeks from now, one thing straight , they will be the ones responsible for taking down kaido . the battle can go days and thats fine and dandy , more reason to why the raid doesnt fail.

you would have to ignore the samurai's that were gathered sank their boats, they dont plan on having a redo
certain matchups have been set, (jinbei who's who) , (franky sasaki) , you would have to expect them to lose these bouts as well. if they win , I see no reason why the other two shouldnt recover and be involved in the same bout .


fujitora , sabo were present in dressrossa
were under the birdcage
both stronger than luffy and law
both would have been suitable to take down doffy if the plot allowed it . But IT WAS NOT THEIR PLACE. expect similar things . marines arrive probably to imprison defeated pirates or general cleanup but thinking they will be vital in taking down either kaido or big mom is not what the story has pointed at.


hawkins prediction isnt a problem here
again hawkins doesnt say luffy will be here a month from now
2 weeks from now he could be partaking in a very different war.
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read above
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yeah we are not going to act like marco isnt stronger than everyone on the roof bar luffy lmao

DR isn't Wano
Bur even then, Navy was present. Sabo stalled Fuji
Sabo was with

You need a force strong enough to stall/stop Linlin while SN trio fight Kaido.
Only Admirals or Garp can even stall BM for hours...we saw Marco can only last minutes then choked (kOed if Zeus wasn't out by Brook)

This is a war against Yonko
Navy will play a role.
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You don't need Garp + Kizaru to keep Big Mom busy.
And again if they get crushed here, what's going to change for them to be able to beat Kaido in 2 weeks?
If they don't win now, they can just stay on the side and watch other fight for them because they are weak af and that won't change in 2 weeks of jail.
Who is going to free them anyway? How many more plots do we need?
So Wano will be like another 150 chapters? So like 4 years and half? Really?

Weak arguments

Oda can even have kaido and BM go hunt weapons for 2 weeks
While alliance try surviving against BMP and BP for 2 weeks.

BM betraying Kaido or Navy coming to stall BM
Is the key for SN to have a chance of beating Kaido.

That ain't happening now

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

People think Oda is gonna have 5 Dudes ( 1 top tier + 1 inbetweener + 3 high tiers) beat 2 emperors when 9 dudes (5 high tiers and 4 mid tiers ) lost mid diff to 1 emperor alone
2 top tiers can hardly beat 1 great pirate.

Yeah... SNs will beat not just kaido here but also BM without Navy being around
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DR isn't Wano
Bur even then, Navy was present. Sabo stalled Fuji
Sabo was with

You need a force strong enough to stall/stop Linlin while SN trio fight Kaido.
Only Admirals or Garp can even stall BM for hours...we saw Marco can only last minutes then choked (kOed if Zeus wasn't out by Brook)

This is a war against Yonko
Navy will play a role.

all right
we'll see who's right about that.

 

[MarineHQ]

People think Oda is gonna have 5 Dudes ( 1 top tier + 1 inbetweener + 3 high tiers) beat 2 emperors when 9 dudes (5 high tiers and 4 mid tiers ) lost mid diff to 1 emperor alone
2 top tiers can hardly beat 1 great pirate.

Yeah... SNs will beat not just kaido here but also BM without Navy being around
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DR isn't Wano
Bur even then, Navy was present. Sabo stalled Fuji
Sabo was with

You need a force strong enough to stall/stop Linlin while SN trio fight Kaido.
Only Admirals or Garp can even stall BM for hours...we saw Marco can only last minutes then choked (kOed if Zeus wasn't out by Brook)

This is a war against Yonko
Navy will play a role.
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Weak arguments

Oda can even have kaido and BM go hunt weapons for 2 weeks
While alliance try surviving against BMP and BP for 2 weeks.

BM betraying Kaido or Navy coming to stall BM
Is the key for SN to have a chance of beating Kaido.

Hat ain't happening now

When did Kid become an Inbetweener?
Any feats u can provide to support that claim?

 

[Jo_Ndule]

all right
we'll see who's right about that.

I've had same feeling for years since wano started.

So far I haven't seen Kaido losing at the raid on Onigashima

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I've had same feeling for years since wano started.

So far I haven't seen Kaido losing at the raid on Onigashima

well how you feel isnt relevant to what the author has implied in the story.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

When did Kid become an Inbetweener?
Any feats u can provide to support that claim?

Kidd can fall anyway , we haven't seen his limits or even half of his limits unlike Law and Zoro who have shown all they had pre kaido fight.

The fact Oda was placing Kidd next to fs luffy at udon and now
Should say that kid is at worst >= Top YCs

 

[HA001]

Kidd can fall anyway , we haven't seen his limits or even half of his limits unlike Law and Zoro who have shown all they had pre kaido fight.

The fact Oda was placing Kidd next to fs luffy at udon and now
Should say that kid is at worst >= Top YCs

Zoros not even used his pre skip power up

 

[MarineHQ]

Kidd can fall anyway , we haven't seen his limits or even half of his limits unlike Law and Zoro who have shown all they had pre kaido fight.

The fact Oda was placing Kidd next to fs luffy at udon and now
Should say that kid is at worst >= Top YCs

Wow, so u have absolutely nothing ?
When did Zoro use Ashura because it would mean that he showed everything.

Anyways, so because Kid carries Rocks alongside Luffy must mean that he's > YC1 huh?

- Kid injured a sweet commander while Luffy beat the strongest in a 1v1
- Kid attacked Shanks and got fucked uo
- Kid was trashed by Kaido
- Kid couldn't one shot Apoo with a sneak attack while Zoro did.

I have Kid as a YC1, but keep it low because he has nothing that puts him above that.

Sabo claps him

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Wow, so u have absolutely nothing ?
When did Zoro use Ashura because it would mean that he showed everything.

Anyways, so because Kid carries Rocks alongside Luffy must mean that he's > YC1 huh?

- Kid injured a sweet commander while Luffy beat the strongest in a 1v1
- Kid attacked Shanks and got fucked uo
- Kid was trashed by Kaido
- Kid couldn't one shot Apoo with a sneak attack while Zoro did.

I have Kid as a YC1, but keep it low because he has nothing that puts him above that.

Sabo claps him

Losing offscreen =/= seeing someone's limits

You can write whatever... oda is the one who kept making Luffy sees kidd as a rival at udon and till now.
The only supernova luffy even asks for alliskce

Losing to kaido isn't a downplay when Luffy got oneshotted , Oden lost too via distraction, retainers lost...

My thread isn't about Kidd...so I dont know why you busy being salty about kidd.

Write about Alliance losing or not like everyone else, stop being salty about kidd

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

That's the problem then.
Big Mom is also there as well as the big mom pirates who are going to join the war sooner or later despite Marco's words.
The prophecy talks about Kaido only so unless Marco comes to stall Big cMom leaving King and Queen free,i don't see how the 5 sn will win against the 2 Emperors right now.

The prophecy also mentionned 9 shadows who will take down Kaido,so there are 4 other people who will get involved in Kaido's downfall already implying these 5 can't win against Kaido and Big Mom.

Either Big mom betrays Kaido soon or the 5 Sn are losing this fight round of the fight.

Nine shadows were by toki she isn't madam shyarly

 

[MarineHQ]

Losing offscreen =/= seeing someone's limits

The accomplishments of Luffy and Kid are like night and day.

You can write whatever... oda is the one who kept making Luffy sees kidd as a rival at udon and till now.
The only supernova luffy even asks for alliskce

Losing to kaido isn't a downplay when Luffy got oneshotted , Oden lost too via distraction, retainers lost...

My thread isn't about Kidd...so I dont know why you busy being salty about kidd.

Write about Alliance losing or not like everyone else, stop being salty about kidd

Stop being so emotional over anything, i simply demanded some evidence for a claim you made which you didn't provide btw.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

The accomplishments of Luffy and Kid are like night and day.


Stop being so emotional over anything, i simply demanded some evidence for a claim you made which you didn't provide btw.

If you got nothing
Dont write

You're the only one who came talking about kidd being x level or not
Maybe others did but can't remember

Do you actually wanna talk anything about the thread or you just wanna be salty about kidd?