Questions & Mysteries Are Kaido and BM dead?
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Kaido is alive, and the fate of Pluton's plot rests on his shoulders now, as he is in Wano for precisely that reason. 
Oden mentioned that Wano should open its borders before Joyboy's return, or Joyboy should have been the one to do it. However, Luffy has shown that he doesn't want the ancient weapons, nor has he opened Wano's borders. Momo doesn't have the capability to do it, and Kaido will re-emerge from his source understanding everything and will connect the dots.
Oden mentioned that Wano should open its borders before Joyboy's return, or Joyboy should have been the one to do it. However, Luffy has shown that he doesn't want the ancient weapons, nor has he opened Wano's borders. Momo doesn't have the capability to do it, and Kaido will re-emerge from his source understanding everything and will connect the dots.
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His zoan disactivated when he got knocked out, unless he can breath lava, he's dead, mort, cadaverised, meurte, on to the great beyond. The story's moving on. Kaido's a footnote so that Admirals, Shanks and blackbeard can say;
"oh, you're not half bad, I can see how you defeated Kaido of the hearsay"
"oh, you're not half bad, I can see how you defeated Kaido of the hearsay"
he gets one shotted by kaido.
"Dead" or not may not matter. Just gone might be the better question. I personally argue that Oda gets nowhere bringing them back since we just spent literally hundreds of chapters getting rid of them.
Though I guess if Rocks is actually super important to the plot (in Elbaf or after), then I guess it makes sense to bring them back. Idk in what capacity though. Every relevant OP villain is still technically around so maybe they arent dead.
Though I guess if Rocks is actually super important to the plot (in Elbaf or after), then I guess it makes sense to bring them back. Idk in what capacity though. Every relevant OP villain is still technically around so maybe they arent dead.
I really don't think Kaido has much to offer if he comes back. He was a fitting opponent for Luffy to finally prevail against and assert himself as a top-tier and Kaido proved his worth as World's Strongest Creature by taking on such a gauntlet and giving G5 a good fight. Passed Wano, he doesn't seem necessary. Especially since he would get up in Wano without Luffy and co around, would be kinda weird for him to immediately leave without causing trouble since that was his base of operations.
With Big Mom however, Oda could definitely still use her as an antagonist in Elbalf. She's a top-tier so giving Luffy a fitting fight works and she still has her reasons to head to Elbalf. Plus her falling in Wano is kinda disappointing, especially since she never faced Luffy when he was an Emperor or becoming one.
Ultimately, chances are they're dead but if not, Big Mom atleast has some potential as an antagonist for one last arc. Kaido seems pretty finished.
With Big Mom however, Oda could definitely still use her as an antagonist in Elbalf. She's a top-tier so giving Luffy a fitting fight works and she still has her reasons to head to Elbalf. Plus her falling in Wano is kinda disappointing, especially since she never faced Luffy when he was an Emperor or becoming one.
Ultimately, chances are they're dead but if not, Big Mom atleast has some potential as an antagonist for one last arc. Kaido seems pretty finished.
