Character Discussion Are people too critical when it comes to Sanji?

Are people too critical when it comes to Him?


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Sanji had plently of opportunities to shine (even more than Zoro, but he was used for stupid gags, to hype other players or for random usless plot that at the end were miningless)

What Oda did with Sanji is just so bad (even the voice actor comment on that, Sanji is know for his bleeding nose and not for his pretimeskip cool moments......)
Sanji was at the center of the one of the most amazing arc of the serie. Bro.. relax
 
This.
When It comes to Zoro : "It Is not king of hell, the green thing Is only adv. CoA"
But now everyone Is playing dumb, Sanji didn't have his eyebrow switched, so only Base Sanji got destroyed by Saturn, not Exoskeleton Sanji.
Again with this crap that he can turn exoesqueleton on?this is what you really understood from the sbs?
Yeah that's another with his fans making up stuff
 
Sanji was at the center of the one of the most amazing arc of the serie. Bro.. relax
Yeah, this tbh.

Don't let the 10% define his everything else.

And if some do judge him based on only that 10%, then Sanji isn't for them.

Sanji at its core is meant to be realistic, having both plus and minus. If fans want character with only plus, there's plenty others.
 
Success breeds jealousy. the zoroach losers on here are getting their microdicks hard posting the lamest “lanji” cringe shit with other virgins completely wasting their lives. They will die alone, and those who unfortunately make it to an elderly age [burdening the rest of us] can at least look forward to thinking back on how many ungodly hours they spent utterly wasted when they could have been learning skills or actually having real experiences in life instead of staring at a monitor in the dark

They hate Sanji because Sanji represents sophistication, elegance, chivalry, class, wealth, standing true to one’s principles. Meanwhile go on Twitter, check the profiles of the most prominent zorowanking sanjihaters and it’s clear that they come from places where they can’t relate to any one of these concepts. Good things happening to Sanji is a sobering reminder that there are in fact people out there superior to them in every way, while they are forever cursed to be living in squalor and filth- and I don’t even mean in the worldly sense. Their very minds are rotten to the core.
 
Success breeds jealousy. the zoroach losers on here are getting their microdicks hard posting the lamest “lanji” cringe shit with other virgins completely wasting their lives. They will die alone, and those who unfortunately make it to an elderly age [burdening the rest of us] can at least look forward to thinking back on how many ungodly hours they spent utterly wasted when they could have been learning skills or actually having real experiences in life instead of staring at a monitor in the dark

They hate Sanji because Sanji represents sophistication, elegance, chivalry, class, wealth, standing true to one’s principles. Meanwhile go on Twitter, check the profiles of the most prominent zorowanking sanjihaters and it’s clear that they come from places where they can’t relate to any one of these concepts. Good things happening to Sanji is a sobering reminder that there are in fact people out there superior to them in every way, while they are forever cursed to be living in squalor and filth- and I don’t even mean in the worldly sense. Their very minds are rotten to the core.
A shitty and useless comment!
Grow up!
 
Sorry for the late response. But better late than never I guess.
Clearly you don’t remember the situation in WCI very well, They through away all of their mirror and made it so there was only one mirror Luffy could come out of, This on top of the fact that nearly the entire Big Mom crew was outside waiting by that mirror. Sanji also did not have a way to contact Luffy so the only option was to get Luffy and skywalk out of there . We never saw any Big Mom Pirates Sky walking before that moment and neither did Sanji . So you can’t fault Sanji for that idea . They wouldn’t have intercepted him if none of them could skywalk. From writing standpoint it’s probably good that Sanji didn’t just sky walk away from a Yonko Crew. where the stakes in that?

Isn't this the same Sanji that many of his fans praise him for his out-of-the-box thinking like the "Mr. Prince" stuff and opening the Gates of Justice? Certainly within the 3 hours of learning of Luffy's dilemma he could of came up with something better than simply skywalking, an ability that even fodder have apparently according to that one BMP grunt. Did Sanji even try to brainstorm this shit? Maybe ask Bege for some bombs or cannon balls or do something.

What happened to that super speed Sanji displayed against Oven? Is Sanji so weak that he can't carry Luffy at such speeds, or was he simply stupid and chose not to try to use it when it be most beneficial? Or did Loda write this shit in for the sake of plot, hence bad writing.
And also The signs were always there. People had been theorizing About Sanjis royal origins long before the timeskip bruh.

All of this is well and good, but at the end of the day for the most part all of this was speculation that wasn't concrete, and could of influenced Loda on how to expand on Sanji's backstory. It's strange that such notorious kingdom that's constantly battling for control over the North Blue have only been name dropped since the Timeskip. It's unbelievable on how there's no mention of them during the Straw Hats' journey through the Blue Sea.
 
Sorry for the late response. But better late than never I guess.
Isn't this the same Sanji that many of his fans praise him for his out-of-the-box thinking like the "Mr. Prince" stuff and opening the Gates of Justice? Certainly within the 3 hours of learning of Luffy's dilemma he could of came up with something better than simply skywalking, an ability that even fodder have apparently according to that one BMP grunt. Did Sanji even try to brainstorm this shit? Maybe ask Bege for some bombs or cannon balls or do something.

What happened to that super speed Sanji displayed against Oven? Is Sanji so weak that he can't carry Luffy at such speeds, or was he simply stupid and chose not to try to use it when it be most beneficial? Or did Loda write this shit in for the sake of plot, hence bad writing.
All of this is well and good, but at the end of the day for the most part all of this was speculation that wasn't concrete, and could of influenced Loda on how to expand on Sanji's backstory. It's strange that such notorious kingdom that's constantly battling for control over the North Blue have only been name dropped since the Timeskip. It's unbelievable on how there's no mention of them during the Straw Hats' journey through the Blue Sea.
For the first point, Sanji was in distressing moments & facing his old trauma. So it is a believable nerf as to why his tactical side isn't prominent. This is why there is a term such as clear-headed & muddle-headed.

As for the second point, it definitely is for plot convenience, so that Germa can "rescue" him. 🤣

If Sanji super-speed his way out with Luffy, the Germa's plotline will be left unresolved (they can't pay Luffy/Sanji back).
 
Sorry for the late response. But better late than never I guess.
Isn't this the same Sanji that many of his fans praise him for his out-of-the-box thinking like the "Mr. Prince" stuff and opening the Gates of Justice? Certainly within the 3 hours of learning of Luffy's dilemma he could of came up with something better than simply skywalking, an ability that even fodder have apparently according to that one BMP grunt. Did Sanji even try to brainstorm this shit? Maybe ask Bege for some bombs or cannon balls or do something.

What happened to that super speed Sanji displayed against Oven? Is Sanji so weak that he can't carry Luffy at such speeds, or was he simply stupid and chose not to try to use it when it be most beneficial? Or did Loda write this shit in for the sake of plot, hence bad writing.
All of this is well and good, but at the end of the day for the most part all of this was speculation that wasn't concrete, and could of influenced Loda on how to expand on Sanji's backstory. It's strange that such notorious kingdom that's constantly battling for control over the North Blue have only been name dropped since the Timeskip. It's unbelievable on how there's no mention of them during the Straw Hats' journey through the Blue Sea.

First of all CONTEXT…….You Think Mr Prince and Gates of Justice are the same situations as WCI?

First of all Mr Prince happened because Chopper and Sanji did not get chased by Smoker and Tashigi since they did not know Sanji and chopper. So Sanji and Chopper had an opportunity to outwit crocodile and save everyone.

Gates of Justice was Sanji leaving and finding the room that controls the gates of justice.

People not knowing who Sanji is was a big part of his Mr. Prince Thing. Not only does everyone know who Sanji is in WCI they all knew where Luffy would be. This is a Yonko Crew not a Warlord bruh or some no name marines
 
For the first point, Sanji was in distressing moments & facing his old trauma. So it is a believable nerf as to why his tactical side isn't prominent. This is why there is a term such as clear-headed & muddle-headed
Doesn't the family trauma excuse primarily come into play when the situation involves his family? I don't think the cop out completely excuses Sanji's lack of thought involved in the scheming of his escape with Luffy.
First of all CONTEXT…….You Think Mr Prince and Gates of Justice are the same situations as WCI?

First of all Mr Prince happened because Chopper and Sanji did not get chased by Smoker and Tashigi since they did not know Sanji and chopper. So Sanji and Chopper had an opportunity to outwit crocodile and save everyone.

Gates of Justice was Sanji leaving and finding the room that controls the gates of justice.

People not knowing who Sanji is was a big part of his Mr. Prince Thing. Not only does everyone know who Sanji is in WCI they all knew where Luffy would be. This is a Yonko Crew not a Warlord bruh or some no name marines
I understand all of this, but the "Mr. Prince" event also has little commonality with him opening the Gates of Justice. My complaint about him with this mirror incident is that unlike those moments, Sanji doesn't seem to try to use his wits to figure out a solution to their mirror conundrum in WCI. He had nearly 3 hours to come up with anything and the best he had was to skywalk to safety. Even if no one on the BMP had skywalk, they still had guns and other range weapons and attacks that would of done them in if it wasn't for the Vinsmokes.

My qualms with this isn't that Sanji failed to adequately save the day, but rather that Sanji seemed to not even put much effort in doing so beyond just jumping in.
 
Saying Sanji was not capable of trasporting Luffy it's literally just hating on the character. Chapters before he raised an huge cart with an huge cake with a single leg.

Oda, and other authors aswell, needs to "nerf" character in order to set in motion the storytelling. While escaping with Luffy, Sanji needed to be helped by his brothers because Oda decided to give the latter ones some sort of redeem scene.

That's why analyzing every single piece of shit about "power levels" it's clearly stupid and useless. When Oda needs something to be done he will nerf or power up characters as he sees fit. It's a common practice in a lot of media. Maybe people in there should read/watch something else other than One Piece just to broaden the horizon.
 
Saying Sanji was not capable of trasporting Luffy it's literally just hating on the character. Chapters before he raised an huge cart with an huge cake with a single leg.

Oda, and other authors aswell, needs to "nerf" character in order to set in motion the storytelling. While escaping with Luffy, Sanji needed to be helped by his brothers because Oda decided to give the latter ones some sort of redeem scene.

That's why analyzing every single piece of shit about "power levels" it's clearly stupid and useless. When Oda needs something to be done he will nerf or power up characters as he sees fit. It's a common practice in a lot of media. Maybe people in there should read/watch something else other than One Piece just to broaden the horizon.
Bruh y’all are literally crazy to believe Sanji was capable of getting Luffy out of there. They were all guarding the damn Mirror Luffy was coming out of
It’s not a task Sanji could pull off on his own.
Now when it comes to just carrying Luffy of course Sanji can do that but he’s not blitzing passed everyone there. Sanji at this point was probably below Snack in Power level tbh

 
Bruh y’all are literally crazy to believe Sanji was capable of getting Luffy out of there. They were all guarding the damn Mirror Luffy was coming out of
It’s not a task Sanji could pull off on his own.
Now when it comes to just carrying Luffy of course Sanji can do that but he’s not blitzing passed everyone there. Sanji at this point was probably below Snack in Power level tbh

Did I write somewhere that Sanji could have escape with Luffy all by himself? Tell me where I did, because maybe I am crazy and I wrote it somewhere. I don't know.

Btw I just said that Sanji has no problem in carrying Luffy like someone else did. That's it.
 
Bruh y’all are literally crazy to believe Sanji was capable of getting Luffy out of there. They were all guarding the damn Mirror Luffy was coming out of
It’s not a task Sanji could pull off on his own.
Now when it comes to just carrying Luffy of course Sanji can do that but he’s not blitzing passed everyone there. Sanji at this point was probably below Snack in Power level tbh

There was no one there to intercept Sanji if he used his super speed. This is the same dude that moved much faster than Oven could react. Who in the BMP army that was present could stop Sanji if he tried to move as fast as possible? I'll wait.
 
Doesn't the family trauma excuse primarily come into play when the situation involves his family? I don't think the cop out completely excuses Sanji's lack of thought involved in the scheming of his escape with Luffy.
I understand all of this, but the "Mr. Prince" event also has little commonality with him opening the Gates of Justice. My complaint about him with this mirror incident is that unlike those moments, Sanji doesn't seem to try to use his wits to figure out a solution to their mirror conundrum in WCI. He had nearly 3 hours to come up with anything and the best he had was to skywalk to safety. Even if no one on the BMP had skywalk, they still had guns and other range weapons and attacks that would of done them in if it wasn't for the Vinsmokes.

My qualms with this isn't that Sanji failed to adequately save the day, but rather that Sanji seemed to not even put much effort in doing so beyond just jumping in.
Well, I'm not defending Oda, but this nerf fits the situation of the arc, so I don't mind his writing choice.

If your mind is already in a mess because of family problem, adding Pudding situation is indeed very burdening.

As for why he didn't come up with a plan other than skywalk, yeah, I agree that Oda is wasting potential here.
 
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