Anime & Manga Awakened Vergo vs Raid Suit Sanji

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#65
Vergo literally was beating Sanji using only kicks, no busoshoku, and no rokushiki, vs sanji at his best (pre raid suit).

Vergo defeated Sanji more easily than Judge defeated Sanji, and I view raid suit sanji to be judge level (who was using a raid suit). Judge mid diff'd sanji, vergo no diff'd sanji (sanji after like 3 kicks said he was lucky the fight stopped or he'd be boned)

So yeah, Vergo, high or mid diff.
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I didnt know coming on top is called "stalemate"
Vergo's first kick = breaks sanji's leg, this without buso or rokushiki
Then they clashed like 2 times, then smoke came in and they got separated.

Sanji said something along the lines of : "I'm glad that fight didn't continue, or I'd be in trouble"

Vergo no or low diff'd sanji, Judge mid diff'd sanji.
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Dont know why they think Vergo using his fists and Bamboo gonna make a massive difference when Sanji was holding back heavy too lmao.
By holding back, do you mean sanji had his leg broken in a single kick, clashed twice after while struggling hard, then said he would be fucked if the fight continued as he sky walked away?
 
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#66
Vergo literally was beating Sanji using only kicks, no busoshoku, and no rokushiki, vs sanji at his best (pre raid suit).

Vergo defeated Sanji more easily than Judge defeated Sanji, and I view raid suit sanji to be judge level (who was using a raid suit). Judge mid diff'd sanji, vergo no diff'd sanji (sanji after like 3 kicks said he was lucky the fight stopped or he'd be boned)

So yeah, Vergo, high or mid diff.
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Vergo's first kick = breaks sanji's leg, this without buso or rokushiki
Then they clashed like 2 times, then smoke came in and they got separated.

Sanji said something along the lines of : "I'm glad that fight didn't continue, or I'd be in trouble"

Vergo no or low diff'd sanji, Judge mid diff'd sanji.
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By holding back, do you mean sanji had his leg broken in a single kick, clashed twice after while struggling hard, then said he would be fucked if the fight continued as he sky walked away?
Vergo no diffed Sanji. His first serious kick was a kick where he clashed with his ankle (and he switched attacking leg such that he feigned a roundhouse kick with his left, but you see that he actually clashes with his right leg, meaning he trolled Sanji). When he does his roundhouse swipe he does it with the left leg. This means Vergo broke off the clash and switched legs yet again in a very trolling fashion. Instead of kicking Sanji in, he literally toys with the dude :shocking::shocking::shocking:
 
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#67
By holding back, do you mean sanji had his leg broken in a single kick, clashed twice after while struggling hard, then said he would be fucked if the fight continued as he sky walked away?
Yall running wild with that leg crack..

But stop the cap. Sanji was holding clearly holding back.

Sanji already displayed his ability to easily outpace Vergo in close combat kicking here:


He wasnt taking Vergo seriously, until that one kick. The injury was a result of Sanji underestimating Vergo. That same leg that got injured he used to equally fight with Vergo until the Marines and Tashigi got time to escape.

Theres all this talk about what Vergo didnt use, but yall ignoring what Sanji didnt either. The crack doesn't determine how the battle would go. If Sanji continued to use DJ Vergo wouldve been on the losing end period.
 
#68
Yall running wild with that leg crack..

But stop the cap. Sanji was holding clearly holding back.

Sanji already displayed his ability to easily outpace Vergo in close combat kicking here:


He wasnt taking Vergo seriously, until that one kick. The injury was a result of Sanji underestimating Vergo. That same leg that got injured he used to equally fight with Vergo until the Marines and Tashigi got time to escape.

Theres all this talk about what Vergo didnt use, but yall ignoring what Sanji didnt either. The crack doesn't determine how the battle would go. If Sanji continued to use DJ Vergo wouldve been on the losing end period.
You're using that out of context. Sanji hit Vergo only twice.

The first time was a blindside when Vergo was dealing with Tashigi and G5 and didn't know he was there.

Vergo casually stood up, essentially went "this is an internal matter, please leave", and then Sanji attacked him again. Only then did Vergo decide to fight Sanji, speed blitzing in, forcing sanji to block instead of dodge, at which point, he broke his leg, then like 2 panels of them fighting on the next page, ending with the smoke rushing it and both going their separate ways, and sanji saying he'd be fucked if the fight continued.

Don't post pics out of context, vergo shat on him even easier than judge did.

Your bones don't get stronger or weaker depending on how serious you are, sanji's legs are literally the strongest part of his body and vergo (who's kicks are only one part of his arsenal), cracked his leg with one kick. The literal point of sanji getting clapped by vergo, doflamingo, and judge is that it was a build up for him needing to use the raid suit.

"equally fight vergo", after that leg crack, they clashed like once or twice over 2-3 panels before the gas came in and they went their separate ways, sanji ending it with saying he'd be fucked if the fight continued.

DJ? You mean the flame kicks that Judge stalemated easily without a named attack?



Vergo using only kicks can beat Sanji at this best (non raid suit), and Vergo at his best beats raid suit sanji. Raid suit sanji is literally only Judge leveled.

You keep damage controlling for someone who literally disagrees with you:



Even sanji disagrees with you.
 
#70
so you can read the minds of fictional characters? cause sanji didnt finish that sentence lmao
OMG, you're delusional. He finished the sentence, he was implying he'd be f'd if that fight continued. He even said it was bad. Also you can't make a reachy argument like "oh he'd have to exhaust himself", cuz Vergo was literally the strongest enemy on that island.

Sanji said he was f'd, you can either accept canon fact, or you can dance around evidence like you zoro and sanji fanboys always do.
 
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#71
OMG, you're delusional. He finished the sentence, he was implying he'd be f'd if that fight continued. He even said it was bad. Also you can't make a reachy argument like "oh he'd have to exhaust himself", cuz Vergo was literally the strongest enemy on that island.

Sanji said he was f'd, you can either accept canon fact, or you can dance around evidence like you zoro and sanji fanboys always do.
"that was bad....if i continued that fight..."

how is this sentence finished? You are pretending like you know the rest to the sentence, meaning you are the delusional one.
 
#72
"that was bad....if i continued that fight..."

how is this sentence finished? You are pretending like you know the rest to the sentence, meaning you are the delusional one.
Are you illiterate? The fuck? Have you never had a conversation with someone before? That sentence is done, he's directly implying that he'd be f'd if the fight continued. You literally have to pretend you don't know english to make your argument.
 
#74
so tell me oh you wise troll, what were the exact words sanji would have used to finish the sentence?
Sanji completed his thought. Have you seriously never heard of an implication before? Like, I don't know if there is an exact literary term to describe what he's doing, but the concept that you say something, and something is implied by it, is like, 5th-8th grade leveled writing.
 
#75
Sanji completed his thought. Have you seriously never heard of an implication before? Like, I don't know if there is an exact literary term to describe what he's doing, but the concept that you say something, and something is implied by it, is like, 5th-8th grade leveled writing.
so you now trying to sell me that an implication is the same as perfectly knowing how sanji would have finished the sentence?

but im the illiterate one?

yeah seems like you are just a sad troll.
 
#76
so you now trying to sell me that an implication is the same as perfectly knowing how sanji would have finished the sentence?

but im the illiterate one?

yeah seems like you are just a sad troll.
No matter where I go, one piece fans are literally too stupid to even have a conversation with.

You're literally trying to wish away sanji's direct character line just so you can pretend sanji is stronger than he is. if you can't take "That was bad.... if I had continued that fight...." and realize what oda is talking about, you're literally too stupid to have a debate with about a show aimed at 14 year old japanese kids.

Edit: If you don't have a basic level of intelligence, no amount of facts will make you see you're wrong, and I'm just wasting my time.
 
#77
No matter where I go, one piece fans are literally too stupid to even have a conversation with.

You're literally trying to wish away sanji's direct character line just so you can pretend sanji is stronger than he is. if you can't take "That was bad.... if I had continued that fight...." and realize what oda is talking about, you're literally too stupid to have a debate with about a show aimed at 14 year old japanese kids.

Edit: If you don't have a basic level of intelligence, no amount of facts will make you see you're wrong, and I'm just wasting my time.
so you dont get how an implication is not the same as knowing the exact words he would have used?!
yeah you are the illiterate idiot im wasting my time with.
 
#79
so you dont get how an implication is not the same as knowing the exact words he would have used?!
yeah you are the illiterate idiot im wasting my time with.
Good job copy pasting my relevant insult to you, when you have no literal justification for saying it back at me.

In the end, sanji said he was fucked, you can't accept that cuz you are insecure and wnat to be right, get over it.

Sorry you have to pretend the English language doesn't exist just so you can argue in favor of your cartoon boy beating another cartoon boy. Talk about petty.
 
#80
Good job copy pasting my relevant insult to you, when you have no literal justification for saying it back at me.

In the end, sanji said he was fucked, you can't accept that cuz you are insecure and wnat to be right, get over it.

Sorry you have to pretend the English language doesn't exist just so you can argue in favor of your cartoon boy beating another cartoon boy. Talk about petty.
so you dont even know what copy pasting is lmfao. 3/10 for effort

edit: and telling someone you are wasting time with him is an insult now? Wow, but im insecure.
 
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