Speculations Blackbeard Pirates Vs. Straw Hats Lineup

#41
Also consider why Blackbeard captured Pudding to begin with. He refers to her as the three eyed girl, meaning that's what he values in her. The reason Teach took Pudding is so that she could use her third eye to decipher the road Poneglyphs, but Pudding will in no way help Blackbeard get what he wants, not willingly, meaning he'll need to force her to do so and the only way that would be possible is through mental manipulation. Laffitte can hypnotize Pudding and force her to decipher the Poneglyphs. Pudding is a prisoner who must be mentally manipulated to play her role for Blackbeard, Laffitte makes the most sense as the one tasked with overseeing that plan.
Nah, the reason Oda adds Pudding to Blackbeard plot is just so that Pudding can read Garp's memory about what happened in God Valley incident and tells it to Blackbeard. There is the reason Oda made Garp fights Aokiji and not Shiryu earlier: Oda still needs Garp alive.
 
#42
Also consider why Blackbeard captured Pudding to begin with. He refers to her as the three eyed girl, meaning that's what he values in her. The reason Teach took Pudding is so that she could use her third eye to decipher the road Poneglyphs, but Pudding will in no way help Blackbeard get what he wants, not willingly, meaning he'll need to force her to do so and the only way that would be possible is through mental manipulation. Laffitte can hypnotize Pudding and force her to decipher the Poneglyphs. Pudding is a prisoner who must be mentally manipulated to play her role for Blackbeard, Laffitte makes the most sense as the one tasked with overseeing that plan.
Even more than that it’s clear that the three eyes are connected to deciphering the poneglyphs which is used to create a map to the One Piece where X marks the spot.

Makes sense Lafitte has to be the one to force her to make the map since no other BBP has any cartography skills as far as we know
 
#43
What trick / deceit gimmick that Kuroobi, Wadatsumi, Vergo and Page One have?
Meanwhile every single of 4 above have durable bodies. And let's not act like Lafitte is famous for abusing women, you just make that shit up.

The Lafitte vs Sanji headcanon ended when Oda set up Nami vs Lafitte as their main fight in the BBP arc, just like the captain fights the captain, swordsman fights swordsman, doctor fights doctor, sniper vs sniper, helmsman vs helmsman etc.

Plus Lafitte literally also has zero connection to Germa. While Pizarro vs Sanji still makes more sense, Corrupt King vs Crying King's Son, both were still loyalty.

Coby will face Aokiji. The future EoS Admiral vs Corrupt former Admiral. Don't drag him down just because you wish EoS Sanji is above EoS Coby.
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I can already see what Sanjitards keep doing recently
Either badmouthing Chopper, or downplaying Coby. Deep down they realize their boy is in mud, and they gotta drag the other characters down too. Sad behavior.
The beginning of your argument is just pure garbage, Vergo and Page one were just clashes and the special about Kuroobi was the fishman karate.
 
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#46
Explain her powers being introduced side-by-side with Shiryu's invisibility powers.



Nami's a "good thief" while Lafitte was a "bad cop." Sanji and Pizarro were rejected North Blue royalty for kindness and cruelty respectively. See how you ignore the other ones because it hurts your point?



Pizarro and Sanji having matching themes is forced but a mere clash between Pizarro and Coby isn't?
You mean besides Oda just introducing the BBP powers? What’s this weird obsession you have with previous powers.

And Nami isn’t “a good thief” she’s no Robin Hood she takes the money and uses it for what she wants. She’s just a thief.

And Pizarro and Sanji have zero matching themes. Pizarro is a man who are throwing people in slave camps, which makes sense why he’d be taken down by someone with the name hero.

Sanjis fights involve rescuing a single woman time and time again. Coby is the one who’ll save the people in the slave camps by defeating Pizarro. Sanji will just save pudding by defeating Lafitte.

Besides, Namis never going to fight a man in a serious fight lmao
 

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#47
There’s not a chance in hell Pizarro is beaten by Coby

The ten Strawhats are matching the ten real Blackbeard’s.

Kuzan’s an obvious special case who doesn’t fit, that’s why he was on the big final war doublespread and the others weren’t.
 
#48
The beginning of your argument is just pure garbage, Vergo and Page one were just clansh and the special about Kuroobi was the fishman karate.
It was just clash because Sanji jobbed (in Vergo's case) or running away (in Page One's case). Kuroobi was built as muscular as Arlong, he must have pretty good endurance unlike Chew. Still doesn't make any of them a trick / deceit gimmick fighters.
 
#49
It was just clash because Sanji jobbed (in Vergo's case) or running away (in Page One's case). Kuroobi was built as muscular as Arlong, he must have pretty good endurance unlike Chew. Still doesn't make any of them a trick / deceit gimmick fighters.
There's no way to take you seriously, you're trying too hard.
 
#50
BLACKBEARD VS PIRATE KING G5 LUFFY

SHIRYU VS ZORO

LAFITTE VS SANJI

VAN AUGUR VS USOPP

SANJUAN WOLF VS JINBEI & BROOKE

JESUS BURGESS VS FRANKY

VASCO SHOT VS NAMI

DOC Q VS CHOPPER

CATARINA DEVON VS ROBIN

AVALO PIZARRO VS COBY & SWORD
 
#51
There’s not a chance in hell Pizarro is beaten by Coby

The ten Strawhats are matching the ten real Blackbeard’s.

Kuzan’s an obvious special case who doesn’t fit, that’s why he was on the big final war doublespread and the others weren’t.
The straw hats aren’t going to fight the BBP alone, that’s not how Oda writes. Brooks never fought a 1v1, why would he suddenly get one now against the BBP at the very end of the manga?

The other allies of Luffy that’s been attacked by the BBP will be there too Coby with Sword and Sabo.

This fight isn’t going to be SHP vs BBP only.
 
#52
Nah, the reason Oda adds Pudding to Blackbeard plot is just so that Pudding can read Garp's memory about what happened in God Valley incident and tells it to Blackbeard. There is the reason Oda made Garp fights Aokiji and not Shiryu earlier: Oda still needs Garp alive.
Even if I entertained that Idea, you know he would have just killed her and taken her fruit like he intended to do with Boa. Also he emphasized "three eyed girl", it's obvious that's the reason he captured her. Plus Pudding was captured prior to Garps capture, which in and of itself wasn't guaranteed, hence Blackbeard's joy and surprise over Kuzans success in his capture. Garp was an unplanned cherry on top, Pudding was targeted specifically. Even still Pudding won't help Blackbeard willingly no matter what he requests, she needs to be manipulated.
 

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#53
The straw hats aren’t going to fight the BBP alone, that’s not how Oda writes. Brooks never fought a 1v1, why would he suddenly get one now against the BBP at the very end of the manga?

The other allies of Luffy that’s been attacked by the BBP will be there too Coby with Sword and Sabo.

This fight isn’t going to be SHP vs BBP only.
Brook had a one vs one with Zeo on FI

Even without out that, Coby has never had a one vs one, why would he suddenly get one at the end of the manga? This logic makes no sense.

There might be others floating around, but the fight is 100% coming down to the Strawhats vs the Blackbeards. The Blackbeard Pirates are a totally special case in the series, as the ten evil up and coming pirates to mirror the ten good up and coming pirates that are our heroes. The only place Coby has in the fight would be against Kuzan, as both are Garp’s proteges.
 
#54
Brook had a one vs one with Zeo on FI

Even without out that, Coby has never had a one vs one, why would he suddenly get one at the end of the manga? This logic makes no sense.

There might be others floating around, but the fight is 100% coming down to the Strawhats vs the Blackbeards. The Blackbeard Pirates are a totally special case in the series, as the ten evil up and coming pirates to mirror the ten good up and coming pirates that are our heroes. The only place Coby has in the fight would be against Kuzan, as both are Garp’s proteges.
The BBP are not a special case, the straw hats are going to have allies taking some of the BBP heavy hitters just like they did for Wano.

Even you admit that the SHs won’t fight all the titanic captains because of Kuzan and no he’s not just some exception.
 

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#55
The BBP are not a special case,
The Blackbeard’s are absolutely a special case and that’s why this discussion has been going on for literal decades.

Was there any threads in Dressrosa for which Strawhat would fight which Beast Pirate? No, because we didn’t have a clue who was in Kaido’s crew at that point.

Meanwhile which Strawhat will match up with which Blackbeard is a discussion that has been going on since Jaya. Can even go back to Drum and the silhouettes there.

the straw hats are going to have allies taking some of the BBP heavy hitters just like they did for Wano.
No, they won’t, because when it comes to Strawhats vs Blackbeard’s both crews are established Yonko crews, and the Strawhats are officially Yonko officers who will be able to stand up one vs one against any other pirate crew.



They don’t need any help any more.

Even you admit that the SHs won’t fight all the titanic captains because of Kuzan and no he’s not just some exception.
I don’t even need to go into the history of why Kuzan is an exception

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#56
My thoughts on the matchups since about a year ago and hasn't really changed since then.
Will post this here in case anyone is interested, might be able to add something to this discussion ^^
 
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#57
I think there is a barrier there that Nami won't be able to overcome if she fights Laffitte. It's speed/mobility. Laffitte seems to be able to use rapid movement and flies too.



Can Nami keep up with this guy?

 
#58
It's Brook not nami
This is what you guys are not getting with laffite
Brook is also fast
Nami is fighting Devon she kills young and beautiful ladies besides is ugly fox vs beauty cat
 
#59
You mean besides Oda just introducing the BBP powers?
With blatant symbolism of past Zoro and Sanji opponents.

What’s this weird obsession you have with previous powers.
It's not a "weird explanation." It's something you have no explanation for.

And Nami isn’t “a good thief” she’s no Robin Hood she takes the money and uses it for what she wants. She’s just a thief.
Nami stole to free her village. What the hell are you talking about?

And Pizarro and Sanji have zero matching themes.
They're former North Blue royalty. Again, the hell are you talking about?

Pizarro is a man who are throwing people in slave camps, which makes sense why he’d be taken down by someone with the name hero.
Or it makes more sense for Coby to go after Kuzan because he's responsible for incarcerating his mentor in the first place and has actual parallels to him.

Sanjis fights involve rescuing a single woman time and time again.
What do you call Jabra, Ghin and Pearl, and Mr. 2?

Coby is the one who’ll save the people in the slave camps by defeating Pizarro.
Coby doesn't have to beat Pizarro to accomplish this.

Sanji will just save pudding by defeating Lafitte.
Or he rescues Pudding by defeating Pizarro.

Besides, Namis never going to fight a man in a serious fight lmao
Oda planned for Nami to fight Fukuro of CP9, and that was after he had conceived of the Blackbeard Pirates.
 
#60
With blatant symbolism of past Zoro and Sanji opponents.



It's not a "weird explanation." It's something you have no explanation for.



Nami stole to free her village. What the hell are you talking about?



They're former North Blue royalty. Again, the hell are you talking about?



Or it makes more sense for Coby to go after Kuzan because he's responsible for incarcerating his mentor in the first place and has actual parallels to him.



What do you call Jabra, Ghin and Pearl, and Mr. 2?



Coby doesn't have to beat Pizarro to accomplish this.



Or he rescues Pudding by defeating Pizarro.



Oda planned for Nami to fight Fukuro of CP9, and that was after he had conceived of the Blackbeard Pirates.
You’re the only one who is trying to force this symbolism about prior opponents. Pizarros fruit isn’t picas, Devon’s fruit isn’t Mr. 2.

Nami steals money now because she wants money. She’s a thief idk why you are trying to portray her as some kinda Robin Hood here.

He saved Nami from Jabra, and Vivi from Mr. 2. Gin and Pearl weren’t full fights because Sanji beat them by converting Gin to his side not like when he defeated the others.

Pizarro got in severe trouble for letting the slaves escape you think he’s going to let the person who hurt him free more people without fighting him? Coby vs Pizarro is one of the few clear fights for the BBP. Idk why you’re just ignoring it.

Pudding isn’t going to be with Pizarro. She was kidnapped by the BBP to read the rode poneglyphs so Lafitte can make a map to Raftel. Why wouldn’t she be with Lafitte lmao

Lmao where was it said “Nami was going to fight Fukuro.”
 
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