General & Others Bounty Discussion and Speculation

[Paperchampion23]

300's are still big bounties.

Apoo's bounty is only 350 million...

I think his earned every beli of it.

We gotta remember that Luffy was 500 million before taking out Katakuri too...same logic could apply to any notable pirate. Hell Doflamingo was 340 million and the highest bounty pre-timeskip. Post timeskip Luffy was higher and he struggled with Doffy for a long time. It's clear the frozen Shichibukai boutnies are not representative of their strength.

I'd say the inflated bounties of the Yonko Commanders are probably more representative of overall strength on the final scale of bounties in the series.

 

[Sakura no Hiluluk]

I think that most of the WG bounties are in a weird state, because they are strong as hell, but most of them probably aren't seen as that threatening by the WG, because they didn't amass a big fleet like Luffy did, nor did they brazenly defy Yonko during the two years of the timeskip.

So far, only Kidd and Urouge are known to have fought with them, the former losing an arm against Shanks' crew and then raiding Big Mom's territory to get something -something he apparently got. The latter defeated Snack but was forced to flee before Cracker. So, overall, something worth entering the stage of the "Legendary Pirates" (something which apparently starts either at 400 millions berries considering the way the return of the SH was heralded on Shabondy; or 500 millions considering how Chinjao reached this peak as a bounty and was considered a legend).

The WG members who didn't do as much waves than some (Hawkins, Bonney) or even joined the Yonko (Apoo, Drake, Bege) also probably have weaker bounties than they should have.

 

[BOCCHI]

I think that most of the WG bounties are in a weird state, because they are strong as hell, but most of them probably aren't seen as that threatening by the WG, because they didn't amass a big fleet like Luffy did, nor did they brazenly defy Yonko during the two years of the timeskip.

So far, only Kidd and Urouge are known to have fought with them, the former losing an arm against Shanks' crew and then raiding Big Mom's territory to get something -something he apparently got. The latter defeated Snack but was forced to flee before Cracker. So, overall, something worth entering the stage of the "Legendary Pirates" (something which apparently starts either at 400 millions berries considering the way the return of the SH was heralded on Shabondy; or 500 millions considering how Chinjao reached this peak as a bounty and was considered a legend).

The WG members who didn't do as much waves than some (Hawkins, Bonney) or even joined the Yonko (Apoo, Drake, Bege) also probably have weaker bounties than they should have.

Their standard bounty should have been around the 400s to 500s for the strongest.
But yeah the lack of waves resulted their bounties to not be that high..

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

urouge Ideally for beating snack should be 600-700 mil
in the event the news got out
or you could say realistically since snack's bounty is that big.

 

[BOCCHI]

urouge Ideally for beating snack should be 600-700 mil
in the event the news got out
or you could say realistically since snack's bounty is that big.

If the news got out yes he deserve such a high bounty. And tbh some WG members imo are around Urouge’s lvl strength wise yet it doesn’t mean much if they don’t show their threat lvl to the world government....

 

[JazzMazz]

Know this is a bit of a tired subject, but considering the scale given to fighters with bounties of 300 mil, would people think bounties of 300-500 mil would be where the majority of the warlords would end up?

Jinbei ended up at 438 million after having an initial bounty of 250 million.

With warlords like Crocodile, Hancock and Buggy, who had incredibly low bounties for a warlord, with their bounties being below 100 million, would people think that's where their bounties would end up?

I could easily see Crocodile having a bounty between 300 to the high 400 millions. I personally don't see Crocodile's bounty being over 500 million on his reintroduction, though that's just me.

For Hancock, I see her bounty likely being in the 400 millions, but I could easily see it being over 500 million.

For Buggy, depending on how they evaluate his feats, I could see his bounty being in the 300 million range, or maybe low 400 millions.

What do people think of that?

 

[BOCCHI]

I could easily see Crocodile having a bounty between 300 to the high 400 millions. I personally don't see Crocodile's bounty being over 500 million on his reintroduction, though that's just me

I remember back in the day prob before water 7 arc even, there was that one SBS talking about Croco’s bounty and what if he no longer a warlord and Oda replies with double his frozen bounty 81M so we were looking at 162 M around at that point in the story which still was impressive. So remember he escaped ID and causing chaos as well as the annoyance he made for marines not to mention whatever he did in the two years TS I would guess somewhere around 370M give it take?!

Boa is a hard one tho my guess is in the 600M, she is far stronger and recognizable by the admirals when it comes to strength plus prob destroying most marines ships coming at her would result high increase!

Buggy is a wild one lol, but prob they exaggerate to mid 200M

 

[Sir WanKing]

i've always said that luffy's 1,5B bounty is a mere result of Morgan's overhyped news... Regardless, the Fifth Emperor part is still sick tho

 

[JazzMazz]

i've always said that luffy's 1,5B bounty is a mere result of Morgan's overhyped news... Regardless, the Fifth Emperor part is still sick tho

Morgans in no way influenced Luffy's bounty in that scenario.

Like, at all.

 

[Sir WanKing]

Morgans in no way influenced Luffy's bounty in that scenario.

Like, at all.

nope, all of the news were made up by him... you should get a reality check from the latest chapter

 

[JazzMazz]

nope, all of the news were made up by him... you should get a reality check from the latest chapter

Um, no it wasn't?

Are you forgetting that Stussy, a government agent, was literally there throughout the entire thing?

Why would Morgans bounty have more of an impact on Luffy's threat level than the report of a government agent, who probably literally went to the wedding just so she could report on the events to the world government?

Yes you could say Stussy didn't know the exact or full story, but there is nothing to suggest she was influenced by freaking Morgan.

 

[Sir WanKing]

Um, no it wasn't?

Are you forgetting that Stussy, a government agent, was literally there throughout the entire thing?

Why would Morgans bounty have more of an impact on Luffy's threat level than the report of a government agent, who probably literally went to the wedding just so she could report on the events to the world government?

Yes you could say Stussy didn't know the exact or full story, but there is nothing to suggest she was influenced by freaking Morgan.

so u're saying that even without all of the overhyped news made by Morgan, including the "Fifth Emperor" shit on the newspaper, Luffy's bounty would be exactly the same 1.5B?

 

[JazzMazz]

so u're saying that even without all of the overhyped news made by Morgan, including the "Fifth Emperor" shit on the newspaper, Luffy's bounty would be exactly the same 1.5B?

Yes.
Morgan had no influence on the number of Luffy's bounty. He was merely reporting on it.

 

[Sir WanKing]

Yes.
Morgan had no influence on the number of Luffy's bounty. He was merely reporting on it.

hmm, a decent unpopular opinion... still did nothing to my belief that luffy is overrated with 1.5B tho, check the latest chapter for proof

 

[JazzMazz]

hmm, a decent unpopular opinion... still did nothing to my belief that luffy is overrated with 1.5B tho, check the latest chapter for proof

I don't see how that's an unpopular opinion. It makes perfect sense. Morgan isn't a trusted source, but Stussy, the government agent, definitely is.

What does the latest chapter demonstrate as prove of that?

He got knocked out by surprise by someone who was decently strong, while he wasn't even seriously fighting them I might also add.

Bounty isn't just an indication of strength, its of danger, and while Luffy's fighting capability in gear 4th may be on par or even slightly exceed that of 1 billion, his overall threat is enhanced by his tenacity and accomplishments as a pirate in scoring a victory against an emperor, as well as having a fleet of 5000 capable pirates under him.

 

[sanjikun]

hmm, a decent unpopular opinion... still did nothing to my belief that luffy is overrated with 1.5B tho, check the latest chapter for proof

You realize Shanks lost his arm to a fish right?

nope, all of the news were made up by him... you should get a reality check from the latest chapter

Mate, the World Government doesn't place bounties based on what Morgans says...

The whole point of Stussy was to spy on Big Mom.

Know this is a bit of a tired subject, but considering the scale given to fighters with bounties of 300 mil, would people think bounties of 300-500 mil would be where the majority of the warlords would end up?

Jinbei ended up at 438 million after having an initial bounty of 250 million.

With warlords like Crocodile, Hancock and Buggy, who had incredibly low bounties for a warlord, with their bounties being below 100 million, would people think that's where their bounties would end up?

I could easily see Crocodile having a bounty between 300 to the high 400 millions. I personally don't see Crocodile's bounty being over 500 million on his reintroduction, though that's just me.

For Hancock, I see her bounty likely being in the 400 millions, but I could easily see it being over 500 million.

For Buggy, depending on how they evaluate his feats, I could see his bounty being in the 300 million range, or maybe low 400 millions.

What do people think of that?

Crocodile in the 400 millions for sure. Jinbe was 438, Law's frozen was 440, and Weevil's frozen was 480. Probably something like 401 million or something.

As for Hancock, I see her a lot higher, given the fact that she's a Queen, and commands an entire kingdom of Haki users. I could see her as high as 800 million. Probably 600-700 million I'd say.

But whatever we get I am 1000% sure, Hancock's bounty > Crocodile's bounty. Both were frozen at 80 million as youngsters, but Boa is much more dangerous to the WG. Both in terms of strength (CoC user), and army/territory.

 

[Sir WanKing]

I don't see how that's an unpopular opinion. It makes perfect sense. Morgan isn't a trusted source, but Stussy, the government agent, definitely is.

What does the latest chapter demonstrate as prove of that?

He got knocked out by surprise by someone who was decently strong, while he wasn't even seriously fighting them I might also add.

Bounty isn't just an indication of strength, its of danger, and while Luffy's fighting capability in gear 4th may be on par or even slightly exceed that of 1 billion, his overall threat is enhanced by his tenacity and accomplishments as a pirate in scoring a victory against an emperor, as well as having a fleet of 5000 capable pirates under him.

right, morgan isn't a trusted source (just like news in real life), neither luffy's bounty can't be trusted as a whole factor to his threat... the latest chapter is a reality check for luffy wankers showing him passing out (ever just for a moment) from a mere 1 punch and 1 explosion from a "mere supernova" who people said way league below luffy the "fifth emperor" do u think apoo would be able to attack katakuri like he did with luffy? or make jack pass out? i don't think so at all

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right?

the very same fish which Luffy one punched when he started his journey right? LOL such a massive plot hole

 

[sanjikun]

do u think apoo would be able to attack katakuri like he did with luffy?

Tf??

 

[JazzMazz]

Crocodile in the 400 millions for sure. Jinbe was 438, Law's frozen was 440, and Weevil's frozen was 480.

As for Hancock, I see her a lot higher, given the fact that she's a Queen, and commands an entire kingdom of Haki users. I could see her as high as 800 million. Probably 600-700 million I'd say.

But whatever, we get I am 1000% sure, Hancock's bounty > Crocodile's bounty. Both were frozen at 80 million as youngsters, but Boa is much more dangerous to the WG.

Considering Luffy's bounty following Impel Down and Marineford leaping to 400 mil, and that also being the case with Jinbei, I think Crocodile, who was also level 6 worthy, would get a similar sort of boost(or at least to the high 300 mils).

As for Hancock, while its true she's in charge of her own kingdom and all that, I think the most comparable person who has a similar situation would be Don Chinjao, who was also in charge of the navy of a country, and held significant political influence and notoriety.

right, morgan isn't a trusted source (just like news in real life), neither luffy's bounty can't be trusted as a whole factor to his threat... the latest chapter is a reality check for luffy wankers showing him passing out (ever just for a moment) from a mere 1 punch and 1 explosion from a "mere supernova" who people said way league below luffy the "fifth emperor" do u think apoo would be able to attack katakuri like he did with luffy? or make jack pass out? i don't think so at all

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the very same fish which Luffy one punched when he started his journey right? LOL such a massive plot hole

In terms of fighting ability, I only think that Luffy in gear 4th is worth over 1 billion. In his usual state his comparable to the other supernova's. That's always sort of been the case.

 

[Sir WanKing]

Tf??

there's no way right?

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Considering Luffy's bounty following Impel Down and Marineford leaping to 400 mil, and that also being the case with Jinbei, I think Crocodile, who was also level 6 worthy, would get a similar sort of boost(or at least to the high 300 mils).

As for Hancock, while its true she's in charge of her own kingdom and all that, I think the most comparable person who has a similar situation would be Don Chinjao, who was also in charge of the navy of a country, and held significant political influence and notoriety.


In terms of fighting ability, I only think that Luffy in gear 4th is worth over 1 billion. In his usual state his comparable to the other supernova's. That's always sort of been the case.

agree with you for this :cheers: