General & Others Bounty Discussion and Speculation

[JoNdule]

Nice to see Law and Kid reach Luffy's heights of 3 billion. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised since their combined 9 billion bounty surpasses Kaido and Big Mom's 8.99 billion. I wonder when Zoro and Sanji will reach Law and Kid's heights.

At EoS that's when they become top tiers

Law and Kid will always be a step ahead in fame ,status and power just like Luffy is ahead of these 2

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Anyway
Chances for zoro and sanji having over 1.25 is now slim

This might paralle EL indeed :
Since that arc was also a fight against zoans!
300 M : 3 B
120 M : 1.200 B
77 M : 1.077

Killer 788 M
Yamato 611M

 

[Electricmastro]

At EoS that's when they become top tiers

Law and Kid will always be a step ahead in fame ,status and power just like Luffy is ahead of these 2

Post automatically merged: Jun 18, 2022

Anyway
Chances for zoro and sanji having over 1.25 is now slim

This might paralle EL indeed :
Since that arc was also a fight against zoans!
300 M : 3 B
120 M : 1.200 B
77 M : 1.077

Killer 788 M
Yamato 611M

Last chapter seemed to be framed as if Apoo was a big source of their info, along with CP0. If Apoo got a say in describing what Zoro and Sanji were like, then he might frame events as if Sanji got help from Monster Chopper in fighting Queen, and might just downplay Zoro to get back at him for getting slashed at.

We should be reminded: it's not always about what bounties we want to see, but more about how the people assigning the bounties may see things.

 

[JazzMazz]

lt made people acknowledge that Kaido and Big Mom Bounties adding up to an even 9 Billion was not a coincidence.. And now it's becoming hard to refute the fact that Queen and Smoothie are 388 Million which is Big Moms Bounty of 4.388 Billion have no significance to it..

??? It was a coincidence though. Big Mum and Kaido's bounties are partially influenced by their laughs at the end of their names, but otherwise the point is pretty clear. Kaido is superior to Big Mum.

Also, why are you sticking with minus 388 million when that is not the difference in their bounties???

 

[humanbeing2022]

The 5 billions takers got stomped

that is really funny. just be honest if you give Kid and Law 3B how much will you give Luffy. just think about it. Luffy was obviously far stronger than Kid and Law and still got the same bounty it is just the WG is trying to downplay Luffy's rule . that is all to it , it is unnecessary to tell that someone got stomped especailly ZKK fans who got the biggest L ever should be silent.

 

[Electricmastro]

that is really funny. just be honest if you give Kid and Law 3B how much will you give Luffy. just think about it. Luffy was obviously far stronger than Kid and Law and still got the same bounty it is just the WG is trying to downplay Luffy's rule . that is all to it , it is unnecessary to tell that someone got stomped especailly ZKK fans who got the biggest L ever should be silent.

That doesn't change how Big Mom went down because of Kid and Law tho. No one can realistically downplay that.

 

[Drachenblut]

Luffy having the samw bounty with kidd and law is so stupid.

Luffy defeated kaidso 1 vs 1 while they defeated big mom 2 vs 1 and more than that, they don't even have a fleet, nor have they territories (luffy probably has, bartolomeo took a territory of shanks, so they are probably taking territories).

And on top of that, their crew is way weaker (zoro and sanji defeated king and queen so each of their bounties are probably 1+ billion berries and in general, strawhats have a high bounty)

So luffy is a much bigger threath than those 2.

And then he has nika's fruit, which he awakened(after 800 years!). Of course the wg wants to hide this but they could increase his bounty even more by concealing it with the above points.

 

[matt245]

Them Luffy stans already started crying because of his Bounty and Law and Kidd fans are crying because they aren't Yonkos (imagine getting outshined by fucking Buggy ☠️) This thread has more salt than the entire ocean and I expect even more soon.

 

[Zolo]

Them Luffy stans already started crying because of his Bounty and Law and Kidd fans are crying because they aren't Yonkos (imagine getting outshined by fucking Buggy ☠️) This thread has more salt than the entire ocean and I expect even more soon.

Zorobois been crying so loud I didint even notice ... but you did becouse you want to find someone s misarable as you becone with ZKK delusions... dont worry everyone eats good except you zorobois

 

[Yasuda]

Post-Wano, conservative guesstimate:

Spoiler: PWCG

Luffy -> 3,000,000,000 (1,500,000,000)
Zoro -> 860,000,000 (+540,000,000)
Jinbe -> 838,000,000 (+400,000,000)
Sanji -> 777,000,000 (+447,000,000)
Usopp -> 350,000,000 (+150,000,000)
Robin -> 280,000,000 (+150,000,000)
Franky -> 244,000,000 (+150,000,000)
Brook -> 233,000,000 (+150,000,000)
Nami -> 216,000,000 (+150,000,000)
Chopper -> 150,000,100 (+150,000,000)

Post-Wano, liberal guesstimate:

Spoiler: PWLG

Luffy -> 3,000,000,000
Zoro -> 1,080,000,000 (+760,000,000) (for the 1080 meme) (alternatively 1.060b for the first bounty meme)
Jinbe ->1,038,000,000 (+600,000,000)
Sanji -> 977,000,000 (+647,000,000) (for the 77 meme)
Usopp -> 350,000,000
Robin -> 280,000,000
Franky -> 244,000,000
Brook -> 233,000,000
Nami -> 216,000,000
Chopper -> 150,000,100

Chopper could get another gag bounty (please Oda stop), a straight increase like the rest, or get two bounties like some have hypothesized with Monster Point getting the real bounty. Come to think of it, Bepo could too if he goes Sulong lmao.

Went with 150m increase for the rest since a bunch of people got a 50m increase for being involved with Doflamingo's downfall, even the Curly Hat Pirates who left for Zou. A 150m increase seems reasonable. I didn't go with 200m on the liberal guesstimate because I have a really hard time imagining Usopp as a 400 million man (hell even 350 is weird), or Nami as having a bounty above the grand majority of the pre-TS Supernovas.

Trying to keep Zoro's % of Luffy's bounty inbetween Katakuri's % of Big Meme's, and what I think King's % could be. Placing him above Jinbe because muh Zorowank, muh Zoro's arc, muh samurai that Oda is going to pull. I'm also assuming he, Jinbe, and Sanji will defeat commanders.

I said I was a believer of the 5.6 billion meme for Luffy's EOS bounty so I was also taking that into account.

Well I got Luffy right at least.

 

[Zolo]

Post Wano?

Luffy ~ 2.6 billion
Law ~ 1.+ Billion
Kidd ~ 1.3+ Billion

Zoro ~ 1.7 billion
Sanji ~ 900. <-> 1.4 billion
Jinbe ~ 500 <-> 1.0 billion

 

[humanbeing2022]

That doesn't change how Big Mom went down because of Kid and Law tho. No one can realistically downplay that.

even though Luffy defeated Kaido more or less alone , while Kid and Law went together against BM and she was really fine in her way down even but made acquaintance with some gigantic bomb , and far still conscious you cannot really compare Law+Kid's feat with Luffy's
add to that , that BM is really not a good fighter compared to Kaido. either way i think no one can argue that Luffy's having the same bounty as Kid and Law is not really based on feats.
but more or less on covering up or ignorance.

 

[Yasuda]

• zoLo -> 1,400,000,000
• Lanji -> 1,330,000,000
• Robin -> 1,000,000,000 (Alive Only)
• Jinbe -> 688,000,000
• Franky -> 450,000,000
• Usopp -> 350,000,000 (400,000,000 if credited with Page One/Ulti defeat)
• Brook -> 233,000,000
• Nami -> 216,000,000 (266,000,000 if credited with Page One/Ulti defeat)
• Chopper -> 150 (lolda) or 150,000,100

Zoro and Sanji get bounties above King and Queen. Robin is probably the most wild prediction. If she gets a more "normal" bounty, I'll say 500,000,000. Feel like I'm lowballing Jinbe but it's not bad. This time the Franky gag will be him being triumphant over Usopp this time, but be angry that his bounty is less than his opponent's for some reason. If no gag bullshit, then something like 494,000,000 to get a higher bounty than Sasaki. The rest get a general 150,000,000 increase for being a part of one of the crews that took down a Yonkou. Extra 50,000,000 for Nami and Usopp if they're credited with defeating PO/Ulti. Chopper troll bounty or just the 150,000,000 increase.

Not going to bother with Killer because I have no idea what Oda will do with him. Could lowball his bounty strictly for defeating Hawkins, could give him a huge one for being Kid's right hand man + rooftop shit. Who the fuck knows with this one.

 

[matt245]

• zoLo -> 1,400,000,000
• Lanji -> 1,330,000,000
• Robin -> 1,000,000,000 (Alive Only)
• Jinbe -> 688,000,000
• Franky -> 450,000,000
• Usopp -> 350,000,000 (400,000,000 if credited with Page One/Ulti defeat)
• Brook -> 233,000,000
• Nami -> 216,000,000 (266,000,000 if credited with Page One/Ulti defeat)
• Chopper -> 150 (lolda) or 150,000,100

Zoro and Sanji get bounties above King and Queen. Robin is probably the most wild prediction. If she gets a more "normal" bounty, I'll say 500,000,000. Feel like I'm lowballing Jinbe but it's not bad. This time the Franky gag will be him being triumphant over Usopp this time, but be angry that his bounty is less than his opponent's for some reason. If no gag bullshit, then something like 494,000,000 to get a higher bounty than Sasaki. The rest get a general 150,000,000 increase for being a part of one of the crews that took down a Yonkou. Extra 50,000,000 for Nami and Usopp if they're credited with defeating PO/Ulti. Chopper troll bounty or just the 150,000,000 increase.

Not going to bother with Killer because I have no idea what Oda will do with him. Could lowball his bounty strictly for defeating Hawkins, could give him a huge one for being Kid's right hand man + rooftop shit. Who the fuck knows with this one.

Makes sense imo, Zoro should get at least 1.5B+ tho, every bounty that Zoro get's in a new arcs surpasses the bounty that Luffy had when the arc started.

 

[kumae]

• zoLo -> 1,400,000,000
• Lanji -> 1,330,000,000
• Robin -> 1,000,000,000 (Alive Only)
• Jinbe -> 688,000,000
• Franky -> 450,000,000
• Usopp -> 350,000,000 (400,000,000 if credited with Page One/Ulti defeat)
• Brook -> 233,000,000
• Nami -> 216,000,000 (266,000,000 if credited with Page One/Ulti defeat)
• Chopper -> 150 (lolda) or 150,000,100

Zoro and Sanji get bounties above King and Queen. Robin is probably the most wild prediction. If she gets a more "normal" bounty, I'll say 500,000,000. Feel like I'm lowballing Jinbe but it's not bad. This time the Franky gag will be him being triumphant over Usopp this time, but be angry that his bounty is less than his opponent's for some reason. If no gag bullshit, then something like 494,000,000 to get a higher bounty than Sasaki. The rest get a general 150,000,000 increase for being a part of one of the crews that took down a Yonkou. Extra 50,000,000 for Nami and Usopp if they're credited with defeating PO/Ulti. Chopper troll bounty or just the 150,000,000 increase.

Not going to bother with Killer because I have no idea what Oda will do with him. Could lowball his bounty strictly for defeating Hawkins, could give him a huge one for being Kid's right hand man + rooftop shit. Who the fuck knows with this one.

Ussop also came with "coc" so it wouldn't surprise if he gets 1b and about robin it would be 800.000.000only alive jinbe would be very lucky if he gets 800

 

[matt245]

Ussop also came with "coc" so it wouldn't surprise if he gets 1b and about robin it would be 800.000.000only alive jinbe would be very lucky if he gets 800

Ussop should calm the fuck down ngl.

 

[Electricmastro]

• zoLo -> 1,400,000,000
• Lanji -> 1,330,000,000
• Robin -> 1,000,000,000 (Alive Only)
• Jinbe -> 688,000,000
• Franky -> 450,000,000
• Usopp -> 350,000,000 (400,000,000 if credited with Page One/Ulti defeat)
• Brook -> 233,000,000
• Nami -> 216,000,000 (266,000,000 if credited with Page One/Ulti defeat)
• Chopper -> 150 (lolda) or 150,000,100

Zoro and Sanji get bounties above King and Queen. Robin is probably the most wild prediction. If she gets a more "normal" bounty, I'll say 500,000,000. Feel like I'm lowballing Jinbe but it's not bad. This time the Franky gag will be him being triumphant over Usopp this time, but be angry that his bounty is less than his opponent's for some reason. If no gag bullshit, then something like 494,000,000 to get a higher bounty than Sasaki. The rest get a general 150,000,000 increase for being a part of one of the crews that took down a Yonkou. Extra 50,000,000 for Nami and Usopp if they're credited with defeating PO/Ulti. Chopper troll bounty or just the 150,000,000 increase.

Not going to bother with Killer because I have no idea what Oda will do with him. Could lowball his bounty strictly for defeating Hawkins, could give him a huge one for being Kid's right hand man + rooftop shit. Who the fuck knows with this one.

Yeah, Zoro and Sanji getting higher bounties than King and Queen doesn't hold more water at this point, since Luffy got a 3 billion bounty below Kaido's 4.6 billion bounty.

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even though Luffy defeated Kaido more or less alone , while Kid and Law went together against BM and she was really fine in her way down even but made acquaintance with some gigantic bomb , and far still conscious you cannot really compare Law+Kid's feat with Luffy's
add to that , that BM is really not a good fighter compared to Kaido. either way i think no one can argue that Luffy's having the same bounty as Kid and Law is not really based on feats.
but more or less on covering up or ignorance.

You point that all out, but evidently enough, the Marines don't care about smaller details like that with Luffy and the others' bounty. They just care about the big picture.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The only reason Luffy didn’t get a bounty above Kaido was because the WG tried to minimize Luffys impact by equally contributing the downfall of the emperors to Kid and Law, the straw hat pirates don’t have this issue so they’ll be given a fairer bounty.

Zoro - 1.62 Billion: 1.5 Billion + Ennies Lobby Bounty
Sanji - 1.577 Billion: 1.5 Billion + Ennies Lobby Bounty
Killer - 720 Million: Current Bounty + 520 Mil
Usopp - 700 Million: Current Bounty + 500 Mil
Jinbe - 638 Million: Current Bounty + 200 Mil
Robin - 620 Million: Current Bounty + 500 Mil
Franky - 594 Million: Current Bounty + 500 Mil
Brook - 383 Million: Current Bounty + 200 Mil
Nami - 316 Million: Current Bounty + 200 Mil
Chopper -

Basically I gave most people a flat increase with slight differences:
Zoro and Sanji - Just like Luffy I gave Zoro and Sanji a bounty based on Ennies Lobby that reflects their strength they showed in the War by beating the calamities

Killer - His bounties hard to predict so I gave him an increase of 520 Million by giving him 320 Million for beating Hawkins and 200 Million for being kids right hand. I don’t see him likely getting over 800 million and I think he’ll be somewhere in the 700s

Usopp - I still don’t know how good the info that the WG received was. I have a feeling when Usopp was running throughout Onigashima yelling he beat two Tobi Roppo that’s going to be what his bounty will be based on. As such he gets the showed

Jinbe - His strength is less of a surprise to the world government as such he got the increase for being a member of the SHP crew rather than showing of strength bounty

Chopper - Since Drake saw him directly we hopefully get a real bounty for him.

 

[JoNdule]

The only reason Luffy didn’t get a bounty above Kaido was because the WG tried to minimize Luffys impact by equally contributing the downfall of the emperors to Kid and Law, the straw hat pirates don’t have this issue so they’ll be given a fairer bounty.

Zoro - 1.62 Billion: 1.5 Billion + Ennies Lobby Bounty
Sanji - 1.577 Billion: 1.5 Billion + Ennies Lobby Bounty
Killer - 720 Million: Current Bounty + 520 Mil
Usopp - 700 Million: Current Bounty + 500 Mil
Jinbe - 638 Million: Current Bounty + 200 Mil
Robin - 620 Million: Current Bounty + 500 Mil
Franky - 594 Million: Current Bounty + 500 Mil
Brook - 383 Million: Current Bounty + 200 Mil
Nami - 316 Million: Current Bounty + 200 Mil
Chopper -

Basically I gave most people a flat increase with slight differences:
Zoro and Sanji - Just like Luffy I gave Zoro and Sanji a bounty based on Ennies Lobby that reflects their strength they showed in the War by beating the calamities

Killer - His bounties hard to predict so I gave him an increase of 520 Million by giving him 320 Million for beating Hawkins and 200 Million for being kids right hand. I don’t see him likely getting over 800 million and I think he’ll be somewhere in the 700s

Usopp - I still don’t know how good the info that the WG received was. I have a feeling when Usopp was running throughout Onigashima yelling he beat two Tobi Roppo that’s going to be what his bounty will be based on. As such he gets the showed

Jinbe - His strength is less of a surprise to the world government as such he got the increase for being a member of the SHP crew rather than showing of strength bounty

Chopper - Since Drake saw him directly we hopefully get a real bounty for him.

expecting Wings to have over 1.4

 

[Shasha23]

given the new developments ill revise my predictions

Zoro - 1.4bil to 1.8bil: increase for defeating a commander and directly being involved in the defeat of the yonko and being 2nd in command of the SHP
Killer - 1bil to 1.5bil: increase for defeating a Worst Gen captain and directly being involved in the defeat of the yonko and being 2nd in command of the KidmPirates
Robin - 800mil to 1bil: trying to resurrect the ancient weapons
Sanji - 700mil to 1bil: increase for defeating a commander
Jinbe - 500mil to 700mil: defeating an officer of the Beast Pirates
Franky - 400mil to 494mil defeating an officer of the Beast Pirates
Nami - 300mil to 400: defeating an officer of the Beast Pirates
Usopp - 300mil to 400mil: defeating an officer of the Beast Pirates* a lie they all believe
Brook - 183mil to 283mil: member of the SHP
Chopper - 100mil: member of the SHP

Yamato - 400mil to 600mil: member of the SHP

 

[Monkey D Al]

ls it my time to assume that you’re a troll?..

Big Mom, Kaido, Law, Kid and Luffy are pirate captains..
Zoro and Sanji are on the same crew the same logic doesn’t apply.. The whole point is that Big Mom and Kaido’s bounties add up to an even number..

Luffy got his Enies Lobby 10X

300 Million - 3 Billion
120 Million - 1.2 Billion(40%)
77 Million - 770 Million(25%)

At best Sanji gets 990 Million
Most liKely 30% of Luffy’s bounty 900 Million which is good for Sanji since that would mean he closed the Enies Lobby gap..

This chapter pretty much confirmed that the Beast Pirates bounties are inflated and that Big Mom and Kaido are 2 sides of the same coin.. Thus Sanji can still be above Queen and Smoothie YC2 and not breaK the Billion at the same time for 388 Million correlation..

This maKes the most sense..

Zoro - 1.28 Billion (4X vs 3x WCl Luffy)
Sanji - 990 Million (3X vs 3X WCl Luffy)

With Luffy being this low it’s pretty clear Oda has his mind set on having Zoro only reach the Billion bounty this time around and he will have a boost for being Known as the second strongest fighter of the Strawhats..

I agree. King, queen and Jack are literally nicknamed disasters. They went and killed masses all the time. Their bounties does not represent their strength but the danger they pose to civilians.

But at the same time the Strawhats as a pirate group are more similar the the Redhair pirates. And all of them, maybe will get a high average bounty.

there for I predict
1.6B Zoro his bounty is always higher than one of Luffy’s previous bounties
1.44 Sanji
Yamato I have no idea
Jinbe 700-800M
And the rest I don’t care